happening right now: 250 migrant children held in terrible, inhumane conditions in Texas

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

I'm sure this is a pro-lifer.

Yup, and trump supporter.
So instead of posting, why don’t you libs go adopt or sponsor these pathetic trafficked wretched urchins whose parents are putting their lives at risk?
Let me guess, your MOCO HOAs have covenants that limit number of inhabitants in a house?
AND, they Haven’t washed or brushed their teeth regularly since the day they were born but now it’s trump’s fault because their parents dragged them 3000 miles to illegally sneak into another country?
No soap for the them; they can wash when they get back home.


Yikes. Thanks for putting your bigotry on proud display.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

I'm sure this is a pro-lifer.

Yup, and trump supporter.
So instead of posting, why don’t you libs go adopt or sponsor these pathetic trafficked wretched urchins whose parents are putting their lives at risk?
Let me guess, your MOCO HOAs have covenants that limit number of inhabitants in a house?
AND, they Haven’t washed or brushed their teeth regularly since the day they were born but now it’s trump’s fault because their parents dragged them 3000 miles to illegally sneak into another country?
No soap for the them; they can wash when they get back home.


Yikes. Thanks for putting your bigotry on proud display.

Bigotry? You need to check yo definition there hoss.
Anonymous


Unaccompanied minors =/= separating families


He said he would send unaccompanied minors back. And he mentioned the safety of the children traveling alone. Sex trafficking was addressed. "If they DO make it, they'll get sent back."



I fail to see how that measure was more compassionate. Yet Obama received a free pass. Isn't it a more compassionate move to keep the unaccompanied minors? After all, he was concerned about kids falling off trains and being kidnapped by sex traffickers.

Again, how is this REALLY any different? Or perhaps we have a short memory? Or . . . more than likely, we remember stories that fit OUR agenda instead of looking at the facts.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-administration-seeks-power-send-kids-back-across-border
Obama seeks more power to send unaccompanied children back across the border

WASHINGTON — Setting up a confrontation with immigration activists, President Barack Obama is asking Congress for increased powers to send unaccompanied children from Central America back home from the U.S. border they tried to cross illegally.

In a letter to congressional leaders Monday, Obama also is asking for increased penalties for persons who smuggle immigrants who are vulnerable, such as children. The request is part of a broader administration response to what the White House has called a “humanitarian crisis” on the border.

Obama is asking Congress for emergency money that would, among other things, help conduct “an aggressive deterrence strategy focused on the removal and repatriation of recent border crossers.”

. . .

Immigrant advocacy groups, already frustrated by Obama’s lack of executive action to ease record levels of deportations, immediately pounced on the administration’s decision.

“President Obama is asking Congress to change the law to enable the government to inflict expedited removal on unaccompanied children. That is simply unconscionable,” said Leslie A. Holman, president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association .”No matter what you call it, rapid deportations without any meaningful hearing for children who are rightly afraid of the violence and turmoil from which they fled is wrong, and contradicts the fundamental values of this nation.”




2012 - crowded or "cozy?"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:stop - we're talking about kids. KIDS. This isn't about your beef with their parents. It's about being humane to children.


oh

b/c times have changed drastically since Obama was in office

lol

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-administration-seeks-power-send-kids-back-across-border

Immigrant advocacy groups, already frustrated by Obama’s lack of executive action to ease record levels of deportations, immediately pounced on the administration’s decision.

“President Obama is asking Congress to change the law to enable the government to inflict expedited removal on unaccompanied children. That is simply unconscionable,” said Leslie A. Holman, president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association .”No matter what you call it, rapid deportations without any meaningful hearing for children who are rightly afraid of the violence and turmoil from which they fled is wrong, and contradicts the fundamental values of this nation.”

Marielena Hincapie, executive director of the National Immigration Law Center, said the influx of children across the border “really requires a humanitarian response, not an increase in deportations.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

I'm sure this is a pro-lifer.

Yup, and trump supporter.
So instead of posting, why don’t you libs go adopt or sponsor these pathetic trafficked wretched urchins whose parents are putting their lives at risk?
Let me guess, your MOCO HOAs have covenants that limit number of inhabitants in a house?
AND, they Haven’t washed or brushed their teeth regularly since the day they were born but now it’s trump’s fault because their parents dragged them 3000 miles to illegally sneak into another country?
No soap for the them; they can wash when they get back home.


Yikes. Thanks for putting your bigotry on proud display.

Bigotry? You need to check yo definition there hoss.


Whatever the word is for presuming hundreds of children, without actually knowing who they are, have never washed or brushed their teeth since they were born. Where do you people get off making these assumptions? That's pretty gross.
Anonymous
How many migrants do Democrats want to support?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

I'm sure this is a pro-lifer.

Yup, and trump supporter.
So instead of posting, why don’t you libs go adopt or sponsor these pathetic trafficked wretched urchins whose parents are putting their lives at risk?
Let me guess, your MOCO HOAs have covenants that limit number of inhabitants in a house?
AND, they Haven’t washed or brushed their teeth regularly since the day they were born but now it’s trump’s fault because their parents dragged them 3000 miles to illegally sneak into another country?
No soap for the them; they can wash when they get back home.


Yikes. Thanks for putting your bigotry on proud display.

Bigotry? You need to check yo definition there hoss.


Whatever the word is for presuming hundreds of children, without actually knowing who they are, have never washed or brushed their teeth since they were born. Where do you people get off making these assumptions? That's pretty gross.



I think “deplorable POS” works in this case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot imagining my 2 year old in these conditions. This is making me physically ill. What monsters. How do they sleep at night?!


Ask Obama and his former administration the same question. How did THOSE monsters sleep at night?

Why the sudden outrage? I'm sure I'm much older than you are, and I cannot remember the uproar when Obama was in office.

But are we going to OVERLOOK the ACLU's findings?

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody?redirect=news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014. The documents were obtained by the ACLU Foundation of San Diego & Imperial Counties and the ACLU Foundation of Arizona through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit co-counseled with Cooley LLP. The documents feature numerous cases of shocking violence and abuse against migrant children, many of whom arrived in the United States fleeing violence in their home countries.


. . .

Law students in the International Human Rights Clinic examined a subset of the records obtained. The documents show numerous cases involving federal officials’ verbal, physical and sexual abuse of migrant children; the denial of clean drinking water and adequate food; failure to provide necessary medical care; detention in freezing, unsanitary facilities; and other violations of federal law and policy and international law. The documents provide evidence that U.S. officials were aware of these abuses as they occurred, but failed to properly investigate, much less to remedy, these abuses.




You know you have no defense when all you can do is deflect to Obama.
Anonymous
Why doesn't Congress make it easy for Americans to "adopt" a family?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

I'm sure this is a pro-lifer.

Yup, and trump supporter.
So instead of posting, why don’t you libs go adopt or sponsor these pathetic trafficked wretched urchins whose parents are putting their lives at risk?
Let me guess, your MOCO HOAs have covenants that limit number of inhabitants in a house?
AND, they Haven’t washed or brushed their teeth regularly since the day they were born but now it’s trump’s fault because their parents dragged them 3000 miles to illegally sneak into another country?
No soap for the them; they can wash when they get back home.


Yikes. Thanks for putting your bigotry on proud display.

Bigotry? You need to check yo definition there hoss.


Whatever the word is for presuming hundreds of children, without actually knowing who they are, have never washed or brushed their teeth since they were born. Where do you people get off making these assumptions? That's pretty gross.



I think “deplorable POS” works in this case.

Prove they brushed and washed regularly before coming here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What you can do
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-protest-human-rights-abuses-at-u-s-detention-ce-1835731469/

Most importantly, call call call your reps. They need to hear from us. It will take you 5 min on monday to do that. Think of your kids.

I didn’t drag my kids illegally into Mexico or rent them out to a coyote to claim asylum somewhere.
So, no.

I'm sure this is a pro-lifer.

Yup, and trump supporter.
So instead of posting, why don’t you libs go adopt or sponsor these pathetic trafficked wretched urchins whose parents are putting their lives at risk?
Let me guess, your MOCO HOAs have covenants that limit number of inhabitants in a house?
AND, they Haven’t washed or brushed their teeth regularly since the day they were born but now it’s trump’s fault because their parents dragged them 3000 miles to illegally sneak into another country?
No soap for the them; they can wash when they get back home.


Yikes. Thanks for putting your bigotry on proud display.

Bigotry? You need to check yo definition there hoss.


Whatever the word is for presuming hundreds of children, without actually knowing who they are, have never washed or brushed their teeth since they were born. Where do you people get off making these assumptions? That's pretty gross.



It's not necessarily bigotry; it's pretty much common knowledge that sanitation is an issue in Central America.

Didn't the US receive quite a few from Guatemala? So even if these adults and children are practicing regular hygiene, sanitation is still an issue.

Guatemala Water Supply, Sanitation and Hygiene Poverty Diagnostic

ABSTRACT

Poverty rates in Guatemala are among the highest in Latin America and the Caribbean, and Guatemala is now the second poorest country in the region with only post-earthquake Haiti being poorer. Guatemala is an extreme outlier in the region in terms of chronic malnutrition and almost half of all children in the country suffer from stunting. This report is part of a global initiative to improve the evidence base on the linkages between water supply, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH), human development, and poverty and seeks to understand this paradigm through a careful examination of trends in access to water and sanitation and in corresponding linkages to poverty and health. It also reviews the governance structure and expenditure plans underpinning service delivery in the WASH sectors in Guatemala. Finally, the report shows that the challenges facing the water and sanitation sector in Guatemala are significant and will require, among other things, stronger political leadership to successfully reform and regulate the sector, greater focus on rural sanitation, and increased spending and budget execution. One of the key elements of this diagnostic is highlighting what conditions led to a struggling WASH sector, particularly in rural areas. Despite a steep increase in water and sanitation coverage in the last 15 years, sanitation coverage is falling far behind drinking water coverage, with the lowest levels of coverage in rural areas affecting predominantly indigenous populations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot imagining my 2 year old in these conditions. This is making me physically ill. What monsters. How do they sleep at night?!


Ask Obama and his former administration the same question. How did THOSE monsters sleep at night?

Why the sudden outrage? I'm sure I'm much older than you are, and I cannot remember the uproar when Obama was in office.

But are we going to OVERLOOK the ACLU's findings?

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody?redirect=news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014. The documents were obtained by the ACLU Foundation of San Diego & Imperial Counties and the ACLU Foundation of Arizona through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit co-counseled with Cooley LLP. The documents feature numerous cases of shocking violence and abuse against migrant children, many of whom arrived in the United States fleeing violence in their home countries.


. . .

Law students in the International Human Rights Clinic examined a subset of the records obtained. The documents show numerous cases involving federal officials’ verbal, physical and sexual abuse of migrant children; the denial of clean drinking water and adequate food; failure to provide necessary medical care; detention in freezing, unsanitary facilities; and other violations of federal law and policy and international law. The documents provide evidence that U.S. officials were aware of these abuses as they occurred, but failed to properly investigate, much less to remedy, these abuses.




You know you have no defense when all you can do is deflect to Obama.


I'm not deflecting, ding dong. I'm simply saying that NOTHING has changed.

Suddenly, however, with this president, there's outrage!

At least I can find evidence to show that for as much as things change they remain the same. Why don't you find evidence to show that our current practices are VASTLY different from those in 2014 (and in years prior)?

I'll wait . . . I have time today.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot imagining my 2 year old in these conditions. This is making me physically ill. What monsters. How do they sleep at night?!


Ask Obama and his former administration the same question. How did THOSE monsters sleep at night?

Why the sudden outrage? I'm sure I'm much older than you are, and I cannot remember the uproar when Obama was in office.

But are we going to OVERLOOK the ACLU's findings?

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody?redirect=news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014. The documents were obtained by the ACLU Foundation of San Diego & Imperial Counties and the ACLU Foundation of Arizona through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit co-counseled with Cooley LLP. The documents feature numerous cases of shocking violence and abuse against migrant children, many of whom arrived in the United States fleeing violence in their home countries.


. . .

Law students in the International Human Rights Clinic examined a subset of the records obtained. The documents show numerous cases involving federal officials’ verbal, physical and sexual abuse of migrant children; the denial of clean drinking water and adequate food; failure to provide necessary medical care; detention in freezing, unsanitary facilities; and other violations of federal law and policy and international law. The documents provide evidence that U.S. officials were aware of these abuses as they occurred, but failed to properly investigate, much less to remedy, these abuses.




2 wrongs don’t make a right.
That Trumpers call themselves Christians makes me, a Christian, vomit.,Jesus Christ would denounce these actions of Trump and would be washing the chikdrens’ Feet himself if he were alive today. The hatred against others, especially the most innocent, shown by Trump and you his followers will be denounced for decades once fat orange a$$ is out of office. You supporters—what your children will think of you I can’t begin to imagine. For shame!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot imagining my 2 year old in these conditions. This is making me physically ill. What monsters. How do they sleep at night?!


Ask Obama and his former administration the same question. How did THOSE monsters sleep at night?

Why the sudden outrage? I'm sure I'm much older than you are, and I cannot remember the uproar when Obama was in office.

But are we going to OVERLOOK the ACLU's findings?

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody?redirect=news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014. The documents were obtained by the ACLU Foundation of San Diego & Imperial Counties and the ACLU Foundation of Arizona through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit co-counseled with Cooley LLP. The documents feature numerous cases of shocking violence and abuse against migrant children, many of whom arrived in the United States fleeing violence in their home countries.


. . .

Law students in the International Human Rights Clinic examined a subset of the records obtained. The documents show numerous cases involving federal officials’ verbal, physical and sexual abuse of migrant children; the denial of clean drinking water and adequate food; failure to provide necessary medical care; detention in freezing, unsanitary facilities; and other violations of federal law and policy and international law. The documents provide evidence that U.S. officials were aware of these abuses as they occurred, but failed to properly investigate, much less to remedy, these abuses.




You know you have no defense when all you can do is deflect to Obama.


I'm not deflecting, ding dong. I'm simply saying that NOTHING has changed.

Suddenly, however, with this president, there's outrage!

At least I can find evidence to show that for as much as things change they remain the same. Why don't you find evidence to show that our current practices are VASTLY different from those in 2014 (and in years prior)?

I'll wait . . . I have time today.


Obama didn't institue the "zero tolerance" policy that punitively rips families apart. Trump did. That has changed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot imagining my 2 year old in these conditions. This is making me physically ill. What monsters. How do they sleep at night?!


Ask Obama and his former administration the same question. How did THOSE monsters sleep at night?

Why the sudden outrage? I'm sure I'm much older than you are, and I cannot remember the uproar when Obama was in office.

But are we going to OVERLOOK the ACLU's findings?

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody?redirect=news/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

The report is based on over 30,000 pages of documents dated between 2009 and 2014. The documents were obtained by the ACLU Foundation of San Diego & Imperial Counties and the ACLU Foundation of Arizona through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit co-counseled with Cooley LLP. The documents feature numerous cases of shocking violence and abuse against migrant children, many of whom arrived in the United States fleeing violence in their home countries.


. . .

Law students in the International Human Rights Clinic examined a subset of the records obtained. The documents show numerous cases involving federal officials’ verbal, physical and sexual abuse of migrant children; the denial of clean drinking water and adequate food; failure to provide necessary medical care; detention in freezing, unsanitary facilities; and other violations of federal law and policy and international law. The documents provide evidence that U.S. officials were aware of these abuses as they occurred, but failed to properly investigate, much less to remedy, these abuses.




You know you have no defense when all you can do is deflect to Obama.


I'm not deflecting, ding dong. I'm simply saying that NOTHING has changed.

Suddenly, however, with this president, there's outrage!

At least I can find evidence to show that for as much as things change they remain the same. Why don't you find evidence to show that our current practices are VASTLY different from those in 2014 (and in years prior)?

I'll wait . . . I have time today.


Yes, something has changed. These children TODAY have been deliberately separated from the adults they were traveling with and are deliberately NOT being reunited with them or other relatives (usually a parent) who is already living in the U.S.

The children in the report you cite traveled to the U.S. alone:

The fact that these children were already so vulnerable — most traveling alone in hopes of escaping violence and poverty in their home countries —


The Obama administration LEARNED that they needed to handle migrant children differently so they enacted humanitarian policies. Trump ended ALL OF THOSE POLICIES and enacted new, sadistic ones. Hence, the current situation.

Just look at the numbers: ZERO children died while in CBP custody while Obama was President. How many children have died in the last few months? SIX? But isn't one too many?

Every American should be embarrassed and horrified by this. Trump created this crisis and he needs to solve it NOW before even one more child dies in our custody.
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