DD's teacher won't call her by her nickname

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, also, I want to know from the "ONLY THE NAME ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE MAY BE USED" people (who I suspect is really just one person): what do you do with "Mary Jane". Her name is Mary Jane Smith. She goes by "Mary Jane". She does not go by "Mary". What say you, oh great name determiner? Should the teacher call her "Mary Jane"?

I hope so!

[Anonymous]

This would be handled easily by me. With the attention of the principal. It's disrespectful and idiotic that a teacher would insist on calling a child something other than what the parents and child have asked him/her to be called. This is not the teacher's choice. At all.

There are 28 children in my DC's 2d grade class. Some of the names are "unusual," and not simple, easy "nicknames." Yet, our wonderful teacher doesn't seem to have any problems and it's only the 3d week of school. So, it's not an excuse. You call the kid what the parents/kid want her to be called.

You call that "entitlement." I call it calling the child by his/her name.

[Anonymous]

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The reality is that school is a more formal place than the playground. A teacher who is setting up a classroom where she is teaching children to treat each other with respect and, yes, a little touch of formality is creating a calm environment for learning. A teacher who is giving her students a sense that the classroom calls for different behavior than the playground is doing her students a favor. A person who has learned at a younger age how to conduct him/herself in formal and business situations will have an advantage later in life

How about a workplace? Is that a more formal place than the playground? I have bosses who call themselves Tom, Debbie, and Dave. Should I insist on calling them Thomas, Deborah, and David?

Oh, the Name Fascist will just say that bosses/teachers can call underlings/children anything they want. How about this question: I supervise a dozen or so people. Should I refuse to call Thomas "Tom" as he has requested? Or ask to see his birth certificate to determine whether it says "Tom"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This would be handled easily by me. With the attention of the principal. It's disrespectful and idiotic that a teacher would insist on calling a child something other than what the parents and child have asked him/her to be called. This is not the teacher's choice. At all.

There are 28 children in my DC's 2d grade class. Some of the names are "unusual," and not simple, easy "nicknames." Yet, our wonderful teacher doesn't seem to have any problems and it's only the 3d week of school. So, it's not an excuse. You call the kid what the parents/kid want her to be called.

You call that "entitlement." I call it calling the child by his/her name.

Amen. Also, what's with the overuse of the word "entitlement"? As if it's absurd to think that anyone is entitled to anything. There are things to which a person is entitled, and that's not a dirty word. They're entitled to respect, for one thing, which includes at least attempting to call them by their correct name.

[Anonymous]

I just find it hilarious that the OP is so insulted.

[Anonymous]

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The reality is that school is a more formal place than the playground. A teacher who is setting up a classroom where she is teaching children to treat each other with respect and, yes, a little touch of formality is creating a calm environment for learning. A teacher who is giving her students a sense that the classroom calls for different behavior than the playground is doing her students a favor. A person who has learned at a younger age how to conduct him/herself in formal and business situations will have an advantage later in life

How about a workplace? Is that a more formal place than the playground? I have bosses who call themselves Tom, Debbie, and Dave. Should I insist on calling them Thomas, Deborah, and David?

Oh, the Name Fascist will just say that bosses/teachers can call underlings/children anything they want. How about this question: I supervise a dozen or so people. Should I refuse to call Thomas "Tom" as he has requested? Or ask to see his birth certificate to determine whether it says "Tom"?

Obviously, you should demand to see his birth certificate, and then inform him that you will only call him "Thomas Middlename Lastname" because, after all, that is his name. You do not believe in shortening names. The parents wanted him to have all three names and so that is what he will be called. You yourself will go by whatever name you'd like because you are the boss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just find it hilarious that the OP is so insulted.

Nice try on the backpedaling, but no. OP never said anything about being insulted.

[Anonymous]

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The reality is that school is a more formal place than the playground. A teacher who is setting up a classroom where she is teaching children to treat each other with respect and, yes, a little touch of formality is creating a calm environment for learning. A teacher who is giving her students a sense that the classroom calls for different behavior than the playground is doing her students a favor. A person who has learned at a younger age how to conduct him/herself in formal and business situations will have an advantage later in life

How about a workplace? Is that a more formal place than the playground? I have bosses who call themselves Tom, Debbie, and Dave. Should I insist on calling them Thomas, Deborah, and David?

Oh, the Name Fascist will just say that bosses/teachers can call underlings/children anything they want. How about this question: I supervise a dozen or so people. Should I refuse to call Thomas "Tom" as he has requested? Or ask to see his birth certificate to determine whether it says "Tom"?

Obviously, you should demand to see his birth certificate, and then inform him that you will only call him "Thomas Middlename Lastname" because, after all, that is his name. You do not believe in shortening names. The parents wanted him to have all three names and so that is what he will be called. You yourself will go by whatever name you'd like because you are the boss.

That's right. And he's a grown man, so if he doesn't like it, he can just change his name. To "Tom". That will be awesome.

[Anonymous]

For heaven's sake. The OP never came back to confirm whether or not it was a policy of the teacher or whether she was just absentminded or too early in the year. So all of this speculation on whether the teacher is being a true hardass is just speculation. And I had plenty of teachers who insisted on given names, or called everyone Mr. or Ms. Lastname. Maybe that shows my age (40s) but it's not like it is completely unheard of.

Heck, I had grandparents who didn't want to use my nickname, because they thought my given name was beautiful the way it was. By first grade I had learned to respond to both and certainly my parents would never have freaked out at a teacher.

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The reality is that school is a more formal place than the playground. A teacher who is setting up a classroom where she is teaching children to treat each other with respect and, yes, a little touch of formality is creating a calm environment for learning. A teacher who is giving her students a sense that the classroom calls for different behavior than the playground is doing her students a favor. A person who has learned at a younger age how to conduct him/herself in formal and business situations will have an advantage later in life

How about a workplace? Is that a more formal place than the playground? I have bosses who call themselves Tom, Debbie, and Dave. Should I insist on calling them Thomas, Deborah, and David?

Oh, the Name Fascist will just say that bosses/teachers can call underlings/children anything they want. How about this question: I supervise a dozen or so people. Should I refuse to call Thomas "Tom" as he has requested? Or ask to see his birth certificate to determine whether it says "Tom"?

Obviously, you should demand to see his birth certificate, and then inform him that you will only call him "Thomas Middlename Lastname" because, after all, that is his name. You do not believe in shortening names. The parents wanted him to have all three names and so that is what he will be called. You yourself will go by whatever name you'd like because you are the boss.

That's right. And he's a grown man, so if he doesn't like it, he can just change his name. To "Tom". That will be awesome.

However, in that case, Tom had better not hope to ever become a Supreme Court justice. It is necessary to have a formal name for that. This is one of the many facts I have learned on DCUM. He will have to choose between his legal ambitions and his nickname.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For heaven's sake. The OP never came back to confirm whether or not it was a policy of the teacher or whether she was just absentminded or too early in the year. So all of this speculation on whether the teacher is being a true hardass is just speculation. And I had plenty of teachers who insisted on given names, or called everyone Mr. or Ms. Lastname. Maybe that shows my age (40s) but it's not like it is completely unheard of.

Heck, I had grandparents who didn't want to use my nickname, because they thought my given name was beautiful the way it was. By first grade I had learned to respond to both and certainly my parents would never have freaked out at a teacher.

No one freaked out at a teacher. Stop making stuff up. The OP asked politely, and it was still happening. So she was asking how people thought she should handle it. Then some PP(s) (you, perhaps?) said that the teacher should refuse to call the kid by the nickname, and that people should change their children's names to the nickname if that's what they want the child to be called. So that's the hardass everyone's objecting to. If the teacher just made a mistake or took a while to get it, no one minds that.

[Anonymous]

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The reality is that school is a more formal place than the playground. A teacher who is setting up a classroom where she is teaching children to treat each other with respect and, yes, a little touch of formality is creating a calm environment for learning. A teacher who is giving her students a sense that the classroom calls for different behavior than the playground is doing her students a favor. A person who has learned at a younger age how to conduct him/herself in formal and business situations will have an advantage later in life

How about a workplace? Is that a more formal place than the playground? I have bosses who call themselves Tom, Debbie, and Dave. Should I insist on calling them Thomas, Deborah, and David?

Oh, the Name Fascist will just say that bosses/teachers can call underlings/children anything they want. How about this question: I supervise a dozen or so people. Should I refuse to call Thomas "Tom" as he has requested? Or ask to see his birth certificate to determine whether it says "Tom"?

Obviously, you should demand to see his birth certificate, and then inform him that you will only call him "Thomas Middlename Lastname" because, after all, that is his name. You do not believe in shortening names. The parents wanted him to have all three names and so that is what he will be called. You yourself will go by whatever name you'd like because you are the boss.

That's right. And he's a grown man, so if he doesn't like it, he can just change his name. To "Tom". That will be awesome.

However, in that case, Tom had better not hope to ever become a Supreme Court justice. It is necessary to have a formal name for that. This is one of the many facts I have learned on DCUM. He will have to choose between his legal ambitions and his nickname.

If he had not erred in his choice of parents, who should have foreseen this problem, he would not face such a dilemma. But that's what abdicating personal responsibility does for you.

[Anonymous]

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The reality is that school is a more formal place than the playground. A teacher who is setting up a classroom where she is teaching children to treat each other with respect and, yes, a little touch of formality is creating a calm environment for learning. A teacher who is giving her students a sense that the classroom calls for different behavior than the playground is doing her students a favor. A person who has learned at a younger age how to conduct him/herself in formal and business situations will have an advantage later in life

How about a workplace? Is that a more formal place than the playground? I have bosses who call themselves Tom, Debbie, and Dave. Should I insist on calling them Thomas, Deborah, and David?

Oh, the Name Fascist will just say that bosses/teachers can call underlings/children anything they want. How about this question: I supervise a dozen or so people. Should I refuse to call Thomas "Tom" as he has requested? Or ask to see his birth certificate to determine whether it says "Tom"?

Obviously, you should demand to see his birth certificate, and then inform him that you will only call him "Thomas Middlename Lastname" because, after all, that is his name. You do not believe in shortening names. The parents wanted him to have all three names and so that is what he will be called. You yourself will go by whatever name you'd like because you are the boss.

That's right. And he's a grown man, so if he doesn't like it, he can just change his name. To "Tom". That will be awesome.

However, in that case, Tom had better not hope to ever become a Supreme Court justice. It is necessary to have a formal name for that. This is one of the many facts I have learned on DCUM. He will have to choose between his legal ambitions and his nickname.

If he had not erred in his choice of parents, who should have foreseen this problem, he would not face such a dilemma. But that's what abdicating personal responsibility does for you.

You can't imagine how much I admire you, PP.

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The reality is that school is a more formal place than the playground. A teacher who is setting up a classroom where she is teaching children to treat each other with respect and, yes, a little touch of formality is creating a calm environment for learning. A teacher who is giving her students a sense that the classroom calls for different behavior than the playground is doing her students a favor. A person who has learned at a younger age how to conduct him/herself in formal and business situations will have an advantage later in life

How about a workplace? Is that a more formal place than the playground? I have bosses who call themselves Tom, Debbie, and Dave. Should I insist on calling them Thomas, Deborah, and David?

Oh, the Name Fascist will just say that bosses/teachers can call underlings/children anything they want. How about this question: I supervise a dozen or so people. Should I refuse to call Thomas "Tom" as he has requested? Or ask to see his birth certificate to determine whether it says "Tom"?

Obviously, you should demand to see his birth certificate, and then inform him that you will only call him "Thomas Middlename Lastname" because, after all, that is his name. You do not believe in shortening names. The parents wanted him to have all three names and so that is what he will be called. You yourself will go by whatever name you'd like because you are the boss.

That's right. And he's a grown man, so if he doesn't like it, he can just change his name. To "Tom". That will be awesome.

However, in that case, Tom had better not hope to ever become a Supreme Court justice. It is necessary to have a formal name for that. This is one of the many facts I have learned on DCUM. He will have to choose between his legal ambitions and his nickname.

If he had not erred in his choice of parents, who should have foreseen this problem, he would not face such a dilemma. But that's what abdicating personal responsibility does for you.

It's true. However, since we are of like minds, I don't mind telling you how distressed I was when I learned that Sandra Day O'Connor went by "Sandy" in law school. Well, sometimes the riff-raff does slip through, I suppose.

[Anonymous]

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