Man and Woman Shot and Killed Outside Capital Jewish Museum

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Anonymous wrote:Israel’s actions in Palestine have made Jewish people around the world less safe. Perhaps it’s time for people to direct their anger at the aggressors who have fomented this rage.

While it's certainly possible to criticize Israeli gov't policy on it's merits, this circular logic exemplifies how more often than not it's just anti-semitism.

The difference between racism and anti-semitism is that racists generally view their racial/ethnic/religious group as superior to others, while anti-semites view a specific group (Jews) as solely responsible for the world's ills in some way. With this logic, Israel is solely responsible for the world's ills and in this particular case, the Jewish diaspora's ills. If Israel did not exists, Jews in the diaspora would be safe--or "safer"--whatever that means.

Israel is not upsetting people around the world by simply existing. They are committing a brutal genocide. No one is suggesting they are responsible for “the world’s ills” but they are 100% responsible for their own abhorrent actions. If Israel represents Jewish statehood, how is committing war crimes in their name making Jewish people safer? Where do you expect extremists to direct their anger?

Nothing can justify this senseless murder. Nothing.
Stop trying. There is no justification.

How soon the Olympic attack in Munich has been forgotten

the problem with the left is their oppressor vs oppressed narrative. To them the oppressed can do no wrong

they have no idea the gathering last night was to find humanitarian solutions to the crisis in Gaza

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Anonymous wrote:Bigger problem that I haven’t seen come up. He was apparently a member of the Party of Socialism and Liberation. Do you think he came up with this on his own or are we looking at a group planned situation.

Never heard of it. The radicalization of the far left and the far right is a problem. And unfortunately, the radicalized right is now running the government. Fortunately, the radicalized far left is extremely small and powerless.

If you think the cold blooded murder these embassy staff is small and powerless you're missing the bigger picture. We've now entered an era where a segment of society will celebrate the death of you and yours (or even just justify it here on dcum) if you belong to the wrong class or identity group. These people are concentrated in far-left leaning institutions like academia and the media.

There is no limiting principle here. Anyone who is part of a system that they disagree they will justify violence against you.

You're a cop? Evil
You're a bystander who steps in and defends others on the subway? Evil
You're a landlord who evicts someone for not paying rent? Evil
You're an insurance CEO? Evil
You're in Israeli? Evil
You served in the military? Evil
You're a politician who opposed green energy legislation? Evil

There is no limiting principle here and anyone who has paid any attention to the free Palestine protests knows that they have a long list of grievances that extend well beyond Gaza.

I promise you there is a lot of foreign involvement in organizing those protests and the messaging. Trolls online are paid to recruit and sway minds. A lot of well intentioned college kids fell for it.

Did you notice that since the election, you don’t see or hear about it?

They’ll come back over something or another and claim Jill Stein is the answer again in three years to do it again.

These online troll campaigns have done a lot of damage. Because to normal people, it’s clear that Hamas is a terrorist organization. That most Palestinians are not Hamas. That Israel had a right to defend itself, but not to commit war crimes (which they did). And that there are both Palestinian and Israeli victims of this war. But internet trolls want it to be black and white and force people to extremes.

If you’re going to use the internet, know what you’re dealing with.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything changes tomorrow.

Agree that this is terror at home and could frankly now happen anywhere in the US. Bc you “look Jewish”? Right? People have been militarized and radicalized by fundamentalism. There’s no reasoning with them and it’s been tacitly condoned by too many in the name of “speech”.

It all stops now. Zero tolerance for ANY antisemitic behavior.

This will be a turning point.

Did everything change "tomorrow" when three Palestinian-American 20-year olds were shot in Burlington, Vermont? That happened last year and I don't see any zero tolerance for anti-Muslim behavior.
https://apnews.com/article/vermont-palestinian-college-students-shot-trial-66aa46f9b1bba7492ce406e2bed64e16

It's awful that people were shot in America, but it happens all the time in a society that for some reason prioritizes guns over people.

+1 where was the "thin red line" when the little boy was murdered by an anti-Muslim man.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyveq30lmdlo

Hate begets hate. Violence begets violence.

if you read up on that story they knew each other and were even friends . Sounds like the killer was a nut. Also nobody is celebrating the killer in that story

That's right.. when a white anti-muslim kills a little boy, it's "mental illness". When a 30 year old man with a Hispanic name kills two Jewish adults it's terrorism.

How progressive of you to focus on race.

The salient difference is actually that last night’s shooter was a political activist/extremist, whereas the Chicago shooter had no history of political activism.

In other words, last night’s shooter was part of the movement and the far left is as responsible for him as Trump is for J6.

Can’t make the same claim about the Chicago shooter.

I'm actually not a progressive, but let's not pretend that people automatically assume terrorist when the skin color is brown, and "mental illness" when the skin color is white.

And actually, someone who kills for political reasons is what the military does. They just have a structured command to kill.

Such muddled thinking.

1. Let’s go with the facts, rather than your speculative musings on society’s racism. Fact here is last night’s killer was a political activist, Chicago killer was not. That’s an important distinction.

2. Structured commands, civilian government control, targeting control and approval, subject to discipline and the rules of conflict, etc., etc. In other words, militaries and political terrorists ate nothing alike.

Smh

Except Israel doesn't gaf about "targeted control" or that the UN has condemned Israel's indiscriminate killings, so they don't exactly follow "rules of conflict".

So if Israel doesn't follow the "rule of conflict" why should others?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. See Nelson Mandela.

Oh, I get it now! You don’t care about the actual principles being discussed. You just want to justify this douche shooting people on US soil bc Israel! You’re pro terror, even in the USA.

Great. Have a nice life. Thanks for wasting our time.

DP. Israel and Jews targets all Palestinians as terrorists. You oppress and take away peoples rights in US to voice their opinion while cold bloodily killing 100’s of thousands of innocent people. Now they hold all jews responsible for Israel’s actions. Oh well. Totally predictable.

Israel in the name of all jews kill and murder innocent people including targeting women, children, doctors, lawyer, infrastructure, etc every day for the past 75 years. Now you want to claim the high ground?

Solve the root problem. The independent Palestinian state with territory taken from Israel, right of return, compensation(pain, suffering and lost of property) and full citizenship for Palestinians.

The root problem in this thread is you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the news items widely circulated was the imminent death of 14,000 Gazan children--a claim that has been retracted. Started of course by the United Nations. https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-854868

no surprise

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What unites Marxist Islamists and Neo Nazis? They all hate Jews

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen a credible report on whether or not this shooter was in the country legally?

What's prompting you to ask this question? Is it because he has an 'ethnic' name?

Yes. Any update on this?

He’s a white man with a Hispanic last name. Even if he has the physical appearance of a BIPOC person, his lived experience is as a white man. He’s enjoyed all the privileges of being a white man, so that makes him a white man as far as I’m concerned.

He is not Caucasian white. And I’m simply asking if anyone has heard his residence status. You know this will be verified at some point.

Doesn’t matter if you don’t think he’s white - his experience says he is.

And his picture says he isn’t! Thanks but I prefer to believe my own eyes versus your dribble.

So we're back to determining race by skin color shades?? Anyone not Fitzpatrick 1 with blonde hair and blue eyes isn't white?

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Anonymous wrote:Everything changes tomorrow.

Agree that this is terror at home and could frankly now happen anywhere in the US. Bc you “look Jewish”? Right? People have been militarized and radicalized by fundamentalism. There’s no reasoning with them and it’s been tacitly condoned by too many in the name of “speech”.

It all stops now. Zero tolerance for ANY antisemitic behavior.

This will be a turning point.

Did everything change "tomorrow" when three Palestinian-American 20-year olds were shot in Burlington, Vermont? That happened last year and I don't see any zero tolerance for anti-Muslim behavior.
https://apnews.com/article/vermont-palestinian-college-students-shot-trial-66aa46f9b1bba7492ce406e2bed64e16

It's awful that people were shot in America, but it happens all the time in a society that for some reason prioritizes guns over people.

+1 where was the "thin red line" when the little boy was murdered by an anti-Muslim man.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyveq30lmdlo

Hate begets hate. Violence begets violence.

if you read up on that story they knew each other and were even friends . Sounds like the killer was a nut. Also nobody is celebrating the killer in that story

That's right.. when a white anti-muslim kills a little boy, it's "mental illness". When a 30 year old man with a Hispanic name kills two Jewish adults it's terrorism.

How progressive of you to focus on race.

The salient difference is actually that last night’s shooter was a political activist/extremist, whereas the Chicago shooter had no history of political activism.

In other words, last night’s shooter was part of the movement and the far left is as responsible for him as Trump is for J6.

Can’t make the same claim about the Chicago shooter.

I'm actually not a progressive, but let's not pretend that people automatically assume terrorist when the skin color is brown, and "mental illness" when the skin color is white.

And actually, someone who kills for political reasons is what the military does. They just have a structured command to kill.

Such muddled thinking.

1. Let’s go with the facts, rather than your speculative musings on society’s racism. Fact here is last night’s killer was a political activist, Chicago killer was not. That’s an important distinction.

2. Structured commands, civilian government control, targeting control and approval, subject to discipline and the rules of conflict, etc., etc. In other words, militaries and political terrorists ate nothing alike.

Smh

Except Israel doesn't gaf about "targeted control" or that the UN has condemned Israel's indiscriminate killings, so they don't exactly follow "rules of conflict".

So if Israel doesn't follow the "rule of conflict" why should others?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. See Nelson Mandela.

Oh, I get it now! You don’t care about the actual principles being discussed. You just want to justify this douche shooting people on US soil bc Israel! You’re pro terror, even in the USA.

Great. Have a nice life. Thanks for wasting our time.

DP. Israel and Jews targets all Palestinians as terrorists. You oppress and take away peoples rights in US to voice their opinion while cold bloodily killing 100’s of thousands of innocent people. Now they hold all jews responsible for Israel’s actions. Oh well. Totally predictable.

Israel in the name of all jews kill and murder innocent people including targeting women, children, doctors, lawyer, infrastructure, etc every day for the past 75 years. Now you want to claim the high ground?

Solve the root problem. The independent Palestinian state with territory taken from Israel, right of return, compensation(pain, suffering and lost of property) and full citizenship for Palestinians.

The root problem in this thread is you.

I guess that moronic response means that you have no way to intelligently argue against the allegations the PP made.

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Anonymous wrote:No question about the assassin’s motive in targeting, stalking, and slaughtering this innocent young couple merely on account of their nationality and heritage:


https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cqxe20l1lyro

Conspiracy trash. The BBC should be ashamed. I guess they’re trying to keep up with the Brit tabloids now.


The ONLY reason this man shot these two people is because he had a gun. He wouldn’t have killed them if he didn’t have a gun. This isn’t antisemitism or a political assassination or any other crazy theory. This was a white male (albeit with a Latinx surname), with a gun, doing what white males with guns do - murdering people.

The problem - everywhere - is guns. And the white men who use them.


Why aren’t we discussing that? Instead were chasing conspiracy theories and arguing about what-if’s.

Um - you seriously believe the BBC is publishing, as you put it, “conspiracy trash” ??


Folks: look at what the PP is asserting here. This is the level of mental illness we are all dealing with here in the DCUM politics forum.

DCUM users are quite literally suffering from severe mental illness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Everything changes tomorrow.

Agree that this is terror at home and could frankly now happen anywhere in the US. Bc you “look Jewish”? Right? People have been militarized and radicalized by fundamentalism. There’s no reasoning with them and it’s been tacitly condoned by too many in the name of “speech”.

It all stops now. Zero tolerance for ANY antisemitic behavior.

This will be a turning point.

Did everything change "tomorrow" when three Palestinian-American 20-year olds were shot in Burlington, Vermont? That happened last year and I don't see any zero tolerance for anti-Muslim behavior.
https://apnews.com/article/vermont-palestinian-college-students-shot-trial-66aa46f9b1bba7492ce406e2bed64e16

It's awful that people were shot in America, but it happens all the time in a society that for some reason prioritizes guns over people.

+1 where was the "thin red line" when the little boy was murdered by an anti-Muslim man.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyveq30lmdlo

Hate begets hate. Violence begets violence.

if you read up on that story they knew each other and were even friends . Sounds like the killer was a nut. Also nobody is celebrating the killer in that story

That's right.. when a white anti-muslim kills a little boy, it's "mental illness". When a 30 year old man with a Hispanic name kills two Jewish adults it's terrorism.

How progressive of you to focus on race.

The salient difference is actually that last night’s shooter was a political activist/extremist, whereas the Chicago shooter had no history of political activism.

In other words, last night’s shooter was part of the movement and the far left is as responsible for him as Trump is for J6.

Can’t make the same claim about the Chicago shooter.

I'm actually not a progressive, but let's not pretend that people automatically assume terrorist when the skin color is brown, and "mental illness" when the skin color is white.

And actually, someone who kills for political reasons is what the military does. They just have a structured command to kill.

Such muddled thinking.

1. Let’s go with the facts, rather than your speculative musings on society’s racism. Fact here is last night’s killer was a political activist, Chicago killer was not. That’s an important distinction.

2. Structured commands, civilian government control, targeting control and approval, subject to discipline and the rules of conflict, etc., etc. In other words, militaries and political terrorists ate nothing alike.

Smh

Except Israel doesn't gaf about "targeted control" or that the UN has condemned Israel's indiscriminate killings, so they don't exactly follow "rules of conflict".

So if Israel doesn't follow the "rule of conflict" why should others?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. See Nelson Mandela.

Oh, I get it now! You don’t care about the actual principles being discussed. You just want to justify this douche shooting people on US soil bc Israel! You’re pro terror, even in the USA.

Great. Have a nice life. Thanks for wasting our time.

DP. Israel and Jews targets all Palestinians as terrorists. You oppress and take away peoples rights in US to voice their opinion while cold bloodily killing 100’s of thousands of innocent people. Now they hold all jews responsible for Israel’s actions. Oh well. Totally predictable.

Israel in the name of all jews kill and murder innocent people including targeting women, children, doctors, lawyer, infrastructure, etc every day for the past 75 years. Now you want to claim the high ground?

Solve the root problem. The independent Palestinian state with territory taken from Israel, right of return, compensation(pain, suffering and lost of property) and full citizenship for Palestinians.

The root problem in this thread is you.

No the problem is you. Stop drag the US in to your religious wars. Address the root cause of your war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No question about the assassin’s motive in targeting, stalking, and slaughtering this innocent young couple merely on account of their nationality and heritage:


https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cqxe20l1lyro

Conspiracy trash. The BBC should be ashamed. I guess they’re trying to keep up with the Brit tabloids now.


The ONLY reason this man shot these two people is because he had a gun. He wouldn’t have killed them if he didn’t have a gun. This isn’t antisemitism or a political assassination or any other crazy theory. This was a white male (albeit with a Latinx surname), with a gun, doing what white males with guns do - murdering people.

The problem - everywhere - is guns. And the white men who use them.


Why aren’t we discussing that? Instead were chasing conspiracy theories and arguing about what-if’s.

Um - you seriously believe the BBC is publishing, as you put it, “conspiracy trash” ??


Folks: look at what the PP is asserting here. This is the level of mental illness we are all dealing with here in the DCUM politics forum.

DCUM users are quite literally suffering from severe mental illness.

No joke. I hadn't visited dcum in years and came back recently after the antisemitism got bad on X after elon took over. It's actually worse here in its own way. I've just been visiting the other dcum forums but visited the political forum again today after this incident.

[Anonymous]

We are seeing the normalization of antisemitism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_antisemitism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen a credible report on whether or not this shooter was in the country legally?

lol. racism in a thread about anti-semitism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are seeing the normalization of antisemitism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_antisemitism

Been going on for a long time. Certain subjects on this aren’t even allowed here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everything changes tomorrow.

Agree that this is terror at home and could frankly now happen anywhere in the US. Bc you “look Jewish”? Right? People have been militarized and radicalized by fundamentalism. There’s no reasoning with them and it’s been tacitly condoned by too many in the name of “speech”.

It all stops now. Zero tolerance for ANY antisemitic behavior.

This will be a turning point.

Did everything change "tomorrow" when three Palestinian-American 20-year olds were shot in Burlington, Vermont? That happened last year and I don't see any zero tolerance for anti-Muslim behavior.
https://apnews.com/article/vermont-palestinian-college-students-shot-trial-66aa46f9b1bba7492ce406e2bed64e16

It's awful that people were shot in America, but it happens all the time in a society that for some reason prioritizes guns over people.

+1 where was the "thin red line" when the little boy was murdered by an anti-Muslim man.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyveq30lmdlo

Hate begets hate. Violence begets violence.

if you read up on that story they knew each other and were even friends . Sounds like the killer was a nut. Also nobody is celebrating the killer in that story

That's right.. when a white anti-muslim kills a little boy, it's "mental illness". When a 30 year old man with a Hispanic name kills two Jewish adults it's terrorism.

How progressive of you to focus on race.

The salient difference is actually that last night’s shooter was a political activist/extremist, whereas the Chicago shooter had no history of political activism.

In other words, last night’s shooter was part of the movement and the far left is as responsible for him as Trump is for J6.

Can’t make the same claim about the Chicago shooter.

I'm actually not a progressive, but let's not pretend that people automatically assume terrorist when the skin color is brown, and "mental illness" when the skin color is white.

And actually, someone who kills for political reasons is what the military does. They just have a structured command to kill.

Such muddled thinking.

1. Let’s go with the facts, rather than your speculative musings on society’s racism. Fact here is last night’s killer was a political activist, Chicago killer was not. That’s an important distinction.

2. Structured commands, civilian government control, targeting control and approval, subject to discipline and the rules of conflict, etc., etc. In other words, militaries and political terrorists ate nothing alike.

Smh

Except Israel doesn't gaf about "targeted control" or that the UN has condemned Israel's indiscriminate killings, so they don't exactly follow "rules of conflict".

So if Israel doesn't follow the "rule of conflict" why should others?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. See Nelson Mandela.

Oh, I get it now! You don’t care about the actual principles being discussed. You just want to justify this douche shooting people on US soil bc Israel! You’re pro terror, even in the USA.

Great. Have a nice life. Thanks for wasting our time.

I despise the killing in the ME. Doesn't matter the side. But, you refuse to hold Israel accountable for their actions. Like I said, violence begets violence.

You have a nice day yourself, which I'm sure you do ignoring the plight of children in Gaza.

Except this thread isn’t about the Israeli government’s actions. There are 800 other threads for that.

The fact that you “but Israel” in an attempt to justify the assassination of 2 young people in downtown DC tells us everything we need to know about you.

eh. Israel is justifying murdering children for the actions of a terrorist organization.

Not justifying what this guy did. A pp stated "zero tolerance for anti-semitism". I called out the hypocrisy of that when anti-muslim sentiment has been normalized in this country since 9/11, and when Muslim children are murdered, that's not considered anti-Muslim. That's considered "structured commands, civilian government control, targeting control and approval, subject to discipline and the rules of conflict,".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen a credible report on whether or not this shooter was in the country legally?

What's prompting you to ask this question? Is it because he has an 'ethnic' name?

Yes. Any update on this?

Two facts are true. He's a murderer, and you're a bigot.

No I’m not. It’s a valid question.

No, it's not. And yes, you very much are.

You think people named David, Christopher, Catherine, and Anne are citizens?

And that people named Juan, Mohammed, Amina, or Mei are foreign or illegal?

That's basically the definition of bigotry.

That's MAGA /s