Man and Woman Shot and Killed Outside Capital Jewish Museum

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen a credible report on whether or not this shooter was in the country legally?

lol. racism in a thread about anti-semitism.

That’s not racism. At all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No question about the assassin’s motive in targeting, stalking, and slaughtering this innocent young couple merely on account of their nationality and heritage:


https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cqxe20l1lyro

Conspiracy trash. The BBC should be ashamed. I guess they’re trying to keep up with the Brit tabloids now.


The ONLY reason this man shot these two people is because he had a gun. He wouldn’t have killed them if he didn’t have a gun. This isn’t antisemitism or a political assassination or any other crazy theory. This was a white male (albeit with a Latinx surname), with a gun, doing what white males with guns do - murdering people.

The problem - everywhere - is guns. And the white men who use them.


Why aren’t we discussing that? Instead were chasing conspiracy theories and arguing about what-if’s.

Um - you seriously believe the BBC is publishing, as you put it, “conspiracy trash” ??


Folks: look at what the PP is asserting here. This is the level of mental illness we are all dealing with here in the DCUM politics forum.

DCUM users are quite literally suffering from severe mental illness.

No joke. I hadn't visited dcum in years and came back recently after the antisemitism got bad on X after elon took over. It's actually worse here in its own way. I've just been visiting the other dcum forums but visited the political forum again today after this incident.

The fault is the insistence of labeling any criticism of Israeli government policy as "antisemitism." Israeli government policy deserves to be vigorously criticized these days, so if you label that antisemitism, then, yes, there's going to be a lot of it.

Of course that labelling is a cheap strategy of trying to blame the messenger and deflect uncomfortable truths. There is nothing righteous or moral about Israel's razing of Gaza, whatever the long, violent history.

[Anonymous]

Trump only supports Israel because he wants to turn Gaza into a resort. He’s an anti-Semite though with decades of evidence.

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/50-trump-crypto-dinner-invitees-hold-tokens-linked-to-alt-right-symbols-and-racist-language/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen a credible report on whether or not this shooter was in the country legally?

lol. racism in a thread about anti-semitism.

That’s not racism. At all.

DP. It absolutely is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump only supports Israel because he wants to turn Gaza into a resort. He’s an anti-Semite though with decades of evidence.

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/50-trump-crypto-dinner-invitees-hold-tokens-linked-to-alt-right-symbols-and-racist-language/

Let me start by saying I *despise* Trump, but I don't think he's anti-semitic. His daughter converted to Judaism. He likes Jewish money. But, I do think he's a bigot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen a credible report on whether or not this shooter was in the country legally?

lol. racism in a thread about anti-semitism.

That’s not racism. At all.

DP. It absolutely is.

+1 ^PP is probably a MAGA idiot who doesn't get that wondering if a person with a non WASPy name is legally here is racist, or at the least a moronic bigot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was very wrong, but so is Israeli state sanctioned terror, and so is zionism as an ideology. One can hold simultaneous ideas.

And let's be honest - 2 Palestinians have been killed AT LEAST every hour by Israelis since this story broke.

But we all know one Israeli life is about equal to 1,000 Palestinian lives.

Actually you can't. If you call israelis/zionists NAZIS, don't be surprised when people act on it. And there's no reason to believe that the shooter knew that the victims were specifically Israeli. This was an American Jewish Committee event attendeed mostly by American Jews in foreign policy roles. Btw, the the panel event for the evening was on multi-faith efforts to address the humanitarian situation in Gaza--which Hamas is also accountable for.

Oh, and the only people who actually thing one Israeli life is equal to about 1,000 Palestinian lives is Hamas--as that is approximately their going rate for hostage exchanges in this war.

Concurrently, if you behave like Nazis, don't be surprised when people call you Nazis.

Oh ok, you do want to see more dead Jews shot on America's streets. Carry on.

I didn't say anything remotely to the like. If you want to be taken seriously, make accurate statements and observations. There are a growing percentage of compassionate, educated, ethical Jews who see Israel for the genocidal ethno state that it is. We're ideologically fighting side by side against hatred and violence against the innocent.

Zionism and Israeli nationalism are absolutely sick, and they both co-opt the Jewish faith for their political agendas. The murderer who shot these two people has more in common with the IDF, than they do with Jewish persons of conscience.

This wasn't an Israeli Embassy event and there's no reason to believe the shooter knew the victims were Israeli. The shooter targeted an event that was specifically about multi-faith efforts to support humanitarian aid efforts in Gaza. Why would he target the attendees there?

Right - and it's categorically wrong, as I said.

Tensions are high, but this is not some kind of red line. Anti-semitism is wrong. Zionism is wrong. Israeli nationalism is wrong. Killing random people is wrong, whether Jewish or Palestinian. As i said above, the shooter here looks like he has more in common with the IDF - targeting random innocents. He helps the Palestinian cause about the same as the IDF helps the Palestinian cause. I don't know why it's so hard for some to hold multiple layering ideas at the same time.

Well this is anonymous forum and I'm also not the one who said it was some kind of red line. Personally, I don't think he's parotting the IDF--an army force like any other that will have a few rotten apples-- so much as a violent marxist who hates Jews specifically and white people/capitalists more broadly. I think he is another Luigi Mangione and unfortuantely we're going to see a lot more of these types of hits against people from all walks of life. And regardles of how you feel about Israel's existence (I completely disagree w/ you but we're not going to has that out in any sane way on this thread), this is an American problem that we will have to reckon with.

+1

This is American political terrorism, a product of the left like Mangione. We will see more of this.

And for the tedious, yes of course there is also political terrorism from the right. But that isn’t today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was very wrong, but so is Israeli state sanctioned terror, and so is zionism as an ideology. One can hold simultaneous ideas.

And let's be honest - 2 Palestinians have been killed AT LEAST every hour by Israelis since this story broke.

But we all know one Israeli life is about equal to 1,000 Palestinian lives.

Actually you can't. If you call israelis/zionists NAZIS, don't be surprised when people act on it. And there's no reason to believe that the shooter knew that the victims were specifically Israeli. This was an American Jewish Committee event attendeed mostly by American Jews in foreign policy roles. Btw, the the panel event for the evening was on multi-faith efforts to address the humanitarian situation in Gaza--which Hamas is also accountable for.

Oh, and the only people who actually thing one Israeli life is equal to about 1,000 Palestinian lives is Hamas--as that is approximately their going rate for hostage exchanges in this war.

Concurrently, if you behave like Nazis, don't be surprised when people call you Nazis.

Oh ok, you do want to see more dead Jews shot on America's streets. Carry on.

I didn't say anything remotely to the like. If you want to be taken seriously, make accurate statements and observations. There are a growing percentage of compassionate, educated, ethical Jews who see Israel for the genocidal ethno state that it is. We're ideologically fighting side by side against hatred and violence against the innocent.

Zionism and Israeli nationalism are absolutely sick, and they both co-opt the Jewish faith for their political agendas. The murderer who shot these two people has more in common with the IDF, than they do with Jewish persons of conscience.

This wasn't an Israeli Embassy event and there's no reason to believe the shooter knew the victims were Israeli. The shooter targeted an event that was specifically about multi-faith efforts to support humanitarian aid efforts in Gaza. Why would he target the attendees there?

Right - and it's categorically wrong, as I said.

Tensions are high, but this is not some kind of red line. Anti-semitism is wrong. Zionism is wrong. Israeli nationalism is wrong. Killing random people is wrong, whether Jewish or Palestinian. As i said above, the shooter here looks like he has more in common with the IDF - targeting random innocents. He helps the Palestinian cause about the same as the IDF helps the Palestinian cause. I don't know why it's so hard for some to hold multiple layering ideas at the same time.

Well this is anonymous forum and I'm also not the one who said it was some kind of red line. Personally, I don't think he's parotting the IDF--an army force like any other that will have a few rotten apples-- so much as a violent marxist who hates Jews specifically and white people/capitalists more broadly. I think he is another Luigi Mangione and unfortuantely we're going to see a lot more of these types of hits against people from all walks of life. And regardles of how you feel about Israel's existence (I completely disagree w/ you but we're not going to has that out in any sane way on this thread), this is an American problem that we will have to reckon with.

+1

This is American political terrorism, a product of the left like Mangione. We will see more of this.

And for the tedious, yes of course there is also political terrorism from the right. But that isn’t today.

It's also a product of policies that allow for almost anyone to buy a gun, thanks to the ammosexual conservatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was very wrong, but so is Israeli state sanctioned terror, and so is zionism as an ideology. One can hold simultaneous ideas.

And let's be honest - 2 Palestinians have been killed AT LEAST every hour by Israelis since this story broke.

But we all know one Israeli life is about equal to 1,000 Palestinian lives.

Actually you can't. If you call israelis/zionists NAZIS, don't be surprised when people act on it. And there's no reason to believe that the shooter knew that the victims were specifically Israeli. This was an American Jewish Committee event attendeed mostly by American Jews in foreign policy roles. Btw, the the panel event for the evening was on multi-faith efforts to address the humanitarian situation in Gaza--which Hamas is also accountable for.

Oh, and the only people who actually thing one Israeli life is equal to about 1,000 Palestinian lives is Hamas--as that is approximately their going rate for hostage exchanges in this war.

Concurrently, if you behave like Nazis, don't be surprised when people call you Nazis.

Oh ok, you do want to see more dead Jews shot on America's streets. Carry on.

I didn't say anything remotely to the like. If you want to be taken seriously, make accurate statements and observations. There are a growing percentage of compassionate, educated, ethical Jews who see Israel for the genocidal ethno state that it is. We're ideologically fighting side by side against hatred and violence against the innocent.

Zionism and Israeli nationalism are absolutely sick, and they both co-opt the Jewish faith for their political agendas. The murderer who shot these two people has more in common with the IDF, than they do with Jewish persons of conscience.

This wasn't an Israeli Embassy event and there's no reason to believe the shooter knew the victims were Israeli. The shooter targeted an event that was specifically about multi-faith efforts to support humanitarian aid efforts in Gaza. Why would he target the attendees there?

Right - and it's categorically wrong, as I said.

Tensions are high, but this is not some kind of red line. Anti-semitism is wrong. Zionism is wrong. Israeli nationalism is wrong. Killing random people is wrong, whether Jewish or Palestinian. As i said above, the shooter here looks like he has more in common with the IDF - targeting random innocents. He helps the Palestinian cause about the same as the IDF helps the Palestinian cause. I don't know why it's so hard for some to hold multiple layering ideas at the same time.

Well this is anonymous forum and I'm also not the one who said it was some kind of red line. Personally, I don't think he's parotting the IDF--an army force like any other that will have a few rotten apples-- so much as a violent marxist who hates Jews specifically and white people/capitalists more broadly. I think he is another Luigi Mangione and unfortuantely we're going to see a lot more of these types of hits against people from all walks of life. And regardles of how you feel about Israel's existence (I completely disagree w/ you but we're not going to has that out in any sane way on this thread), this is an American problem that we will have to reckon with.

+1

This is American political terrorism, a product of the left like Mangione. We will see more of this.

And for the tedious, yes of course there is also political terrorism from the right. But that isn’t today.

It's also a product of policies that allow for almost anyone to buy a gun, thanks to the ammosexual conservatives.

would you be happier if it were a ramming attack like in France and Germany?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The attack occurred during a reception hosted by the American Jewish Committee’s DC Young Professional Board.

According to witnesses, a man entered the museum shortly after the shooting, wearing a keffiyeh and shouting “Free Palestine” before being removed by police.

This sounds a little suspicious. I sincerely hope this is not just another example of a false flag type attack like the one where Israel bombed its own London Embassy and blamed innocent Palestinians for it.

Yes, it’s definitely likelier that the Israeli government murdered two of its own employees in D.C. to … blame left wing protesters? than it is that someone who probably shouldn’t have had a gun got radicalized and snapped. Certainly no one ever does any random acts of horrific violence in this country, it was probably Mossad.

DP. I mean the Israeli government and military have stated that retrieving the hostages is lowest on their priority list, so one can't really say that integrity is a value of the Israeli government. [/quote

Oh, I think the Israeli government is populated almost entirely by inhumane, amoral, racist morons. But I also think its a stretch to say this was a false flag operation rather than exactly what it appeared to be.

[Anonymous]

These were Israeli embassy employees? Did Israel bomb an embassy killing a lot of people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was very wrong, but so is Israeli state sanctioned terror, and so is zionism as an ideology. One can hold simultaneous ideas.

And let's be honest - 2 Palestinians have been killed AT LEAST every hour by Israelis since this story broke.

But we all know one Israeli life is about equal to 1,000 Palestinian lives.

Actually you can't. If you call israelis/zionists NAZIS, don't be surprised when people act on it. And there's no reason to believe that the shooter knew that the victims were specifically Israeli. This was an American Jewish Committee event attendeed mostly by American Jews in foreign policy roles. Btw, the the panel event for the evening was on multi-faith efforts to address the humanitarian situation in Gaza--which Hamas is also accountable for.

Oh, and the only people who actually thing one Israeli life is equal to about 1,000 Palestinian lives is Hamas--as that is approximately their going rate for hostage exchanges in this war.

Concurrently, if you behave like Nazis, don't be surprised when people call you Nazis.

Oh ok, you do want to see more dead Jews shot on America's streets. Carry on.

I didn't say anything remotely to the like. If you want to be taken seriously, make accurate statements and observations. There are a growing percentage of compassionate, educated, ethical Jews who see Israel for the genocidal ethno state that it is. We're ideologically fighting side by side against hatred and violence against the innocent.

Zionism and Israeli nationalism are absolutely sick, and they both co-opt the Jewish faith for their political agendas. The murderer who shot these two people has more in common with the IDF, than they do with Jewish persons of conscience.

This wasn't an Israeli Embassy event and there's no reason to believe the shooter knew the victims were Israeli. The shooter targeted an event that was specifically about multi-faith efforts to support humanitarian aid efforts in Gaza. Why would he target the attendees there?

Right - and it's categorically wrong, as I said.

Tensions are high, but this is not some kind of red line. Anti-semitism is wrong. Zionism is wrong. Israeli nationalism is wrong. Killing random people is wrong, whether Jewish or Palestinian. As i said above, the shooter here looks like he has more in common with the IDF - targeting random innocents. He helps the Palestinian cause about the same as the IDF helps the Palestinian cause. I don't know why it's so hard for some to hold multiple layering ideas at the same time.

Well this is anonymous forum and I'm also not the one who said it was some kind of red line. Personally, I don't think he's parotting the IDF--an army force like any other that will have a few rotten apples-- so much as a violent marxist who hates Jews specifically and white people/capitalists more broadly. I think he is another Luigi Mangione and unfortuantely we're going to see a lot more of these types of hits against people from all walks of life. And regardles of how you feel about Israel's existence (I completely disagree w/ you but we're not going to has that out in any sane way on this thread), this is an American problem that we will have to reckon with.

+1

This is American political terrorism, a product of the left like Mangione. We will see more of this.

And for the tedious, yes of course there is also political terrorism from the right. But that isn’t today.

It's also a product of policies that allow for almost anyone to buy a gun, thanks to the ammosexual conservatives.

This.
Time to get rid of guns. We can’t let aggrieved people run around the country killing people. It’s barbaric.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These were Israeli embassy employees? Did Israel bomb an embassy killing a lot of people?

The fact that you are trying to legitimize these murders says everything about the progressive left these days. You guys are nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These were Israeli embassy employees? Did Israel bomb an embassy killing a lot of people?

They did shoot at European diplomats yesterday near Jenin refugee camp.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250521-israeli-army-fires-warning-shots-at-french-and-other-diplomats-visiting-west-bank

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everything changes tomorrow.

Agree that this is terror at home and could frankly now happen anywhere in the US. Bc you “look Jewish”? Right? People have been militarized and radicalized by fundamentalism. There’s no reasoning with them and it’s been tacitly condoned by too many in the name of “speech”.

It all stops now. Zero tolerance for ANY antisemitic behavior.

This will be a turning point.

What are you talking about? People get shot in America all the time. People get shot in DC all the time.

This is an awful incident...and particularly to kill diplomats there will be repercussions. But this isn't going to represent a sea change for violence in America due to religion, race or nationality.

There are radicalized students and professional protesters spewing this non-sense in college campuses. It dangerous radical behavior that’s escalating. It must be stopped,