Herndon high - what’s going on?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:HHS needs a new principal.

Agreed.

HES-HMS-HHS parent

So does Madison

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So really simplified, is what’s happening at Herndon that less kids are now getting As, Ds and Fs and FCPS making call it’s worth collateral hit on As to get less Ds ands Fs? Is there a way to roll out SBG where Ds and Fs go up but not such a 120 to 20 drop?

I am a Madison parent and embarrassed that we can’t get our act together like the Herndon parents. Super impressed with their PTA. I am personally afraid to complain anymore to the school because my kid was impacted (grade was not rounded up from a 92.4 when all other students were) after I complained last year.

The students of the parents who spoke up at Herndon are feeling impact too. The PTAs Presidents kids were told by teachers that it was their moms fault the teachers had to stay after school for retakes. The teachers are mad at the parents because the principal chose the worst option

OMG. The PTA President was really trying to be reasonable. The principal had already created a monster problem for teachers. Some teachers like my DCs Spanish and English teachers did not provide feedback on homework until after tests papers. Homework was useless in terms of preparing for end of quarter graded work. And teachers take back quizzes tests so you can study from those either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So really simplified, is what’s happening at Herndon that less kids are now getting As, Ds and Fs and FCPS making call it’s worth collateral hit on As to get less Ds ands Fs? Is there a way to roll out SBG where Ds and Fs go up but not such a 120 to 20 drop?

I am a Madison parent and embarrassed that we can’t get our act together like the Herndon parents. Super impressed with their PTA. I am personally afraid to complain anymore to the school because my kid was impacted (grade was not rounded up from a 92.4 when all other students were) after I complained last year.

The students of the parents who spoke up at Herndon are feeling impact too. The PTAs Presidents kids were told by teachers that it was their moms fault the teachers had to stay after school for retakes. The teachers are mad at the parents because the principal chose the worst option

OMG. The PTA President was really trying to be reasonable. The principal had already created a monster problem for teachers. Some teachers like my DCs Spanish and English teachers did not provide feedback on homework until after tests papers. Homework was useless in terms of preparing for end of quarter graded work. And teachers take back quizzes tests so you can study from those either.

Take back quizzes before tests so you can’t study from those either.

[Anonymous]

Based on the population at Herndon I understand why they felt SBG could help with low performing kids. And they prob assumed parents would be quiet. But what was the reason they did it at Madison which is typically a high performing school with engaged parents?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So really simplified, is what’s happening at Herndon that less kids are now getting As, Ds and Fs and FCPS making call it’s worth collateral hit on As to get less Ds ands Fs? Is there a way to roll out SBG where Ds and Fs go up but not such a 120 to 20 drop?

I am a Madison parent and embarrassed that we can’t get our act together like the Herndon parents. Super impressed with their PTA. I am personally afraid to complain anymore to the school because my kid was impacted (grade was not rounded up from a 92.4 when all other students were) after I complained last year.

The students of the parents who spoke up at Herndon are feeling impact too. The PTAs Presidents kids were told by teachers that it was their moms fault the teachers had to stay after school for retakes. The teachers are mad at the parents because the principal chose the worst option

Please don’t generalize. I am a HHS teacher and I did not know PTA even quit. I don’t know who are the kids of the PTA parents. Nor do I care. I treat all students the same. I blame Noto and her Admin team for all the mess. And those teachers who never once spoke up. Not kids. Nit parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the population at Herndon I understand why they felt SBG could help with low performing kids. And they prob assumed parents would be quiet. But what was the reason they did it at Madison which is typically a high performing school with engaged parents?

Talk about stereotyping. There are plenty of involved ESL / FARMS parents at HHS. It is too bad the principal talks at them rather than with them. There is a bit of a white savior type mentality with the principal. SHE has all the answers. It is too bad she doesn’t actually live in the community here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the population at Herndon I understand why they felt SBG could help with low performing kids. And they prob assumed parents would be quiet. But what was the reason they did it at Madison which is typically a high performing school with engaged parents?

Madison parent here. It was implemented by a new principal. It was completely her decision. I heard her say it at a meeting when a parent asked if FCPS was making Madison do this. She said it was the choice of the school, FCPS had nothing to do with it, and that Reid may shut it down (at the time Reid was new too). This was last year. I don't know why principals do things like this, maybe it's a career move, maybe it's a way of closing the gap and making the school look more equitable, who knows. Maybe principals are evaluated on equity and a big achievement gap impacts their evaluation so SBG seems like an easy fix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny. SBG was designed to bring the top down and the bottom up. Looks like it works to me. What’s the problem?

Exactly. This is "equity," playing out in real time. I hope all of you who voted for this are happy with yourselves?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny. SBG was designed to bring the top down and the bottom up. Looks like it works to me. What’s the problem?

Exactly. This is "equity," playing out in real time. I hope all of you who voted for this are happy with yourselves?

Next election cycle, find some legitimate conservatives to run for school board instead of a bunch of MAGA clowns and I'll be glad to vote for one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the population at Herndon I understand why they felt SBG could help with low performing kids. And they prob assumed parents would be quiet. But what was the reason they did it at Madison which is typically a high performing school with engaged parents?

Madison has a larger ESOL population than neighboring schools like Oakton and Marshall so has been dinged on equity in great schools ratings. Vienna has a lot of folks who care deeply about equity and serving the community. I think SBG at the outset might have been well intentioned but has now become virtue signaling at the expense of many students, with perhaps those in the middle who feel they have not been impacted one way or the other so don’t care. All of these complaints could be addressed if the administration shared the data like they did at Herndon. The fact that they won’t is very telling that there is a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the population at Herndon I understand why they felt SBG could help with low performing kids. And they prob assumed parents would be quiet. But what was the reason they did it at Madison which is typically a high performing school with engaged parents?

Madison has a larger ESOL population than neighboring schools like Oakton and Marshall so has been dinged on equity in great schools ratings. Vienna has a lot of folks who care deeply about equity and serving the community. I think SBG at the outset might have been well intentioned but has now become virtue signaling at the expense of many students, with perhaps those in the middle who feel they have not been impacted one way or the other so don’t care. All of these complaints could be addressed if the administration shared the data like they did at Herndon. The fact that they won’t is very telling that there is a problem.

Madison does not have a larger ESOL population than Oakton or especially Marshall. Not even close.

Some of you people really have no business posting here. You don’t even make the slightest effort to get your facts right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny. SBG was designed to bring the top down and the bottom up. Looks like it works to me. What’s the problem?

Exactly. This is "equity," playing out in real time. I hope all of you who voted for this are happy with yourselves?

Next election cycle, find some legitimate conservatives to run for school board instead of a bunch of MAGA clowns and I'll be glad to vote for one of them.

Sure. Meanwhile, we get to put up with more LWNJ clowns. Thanks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny. SBG was designed to bring the top down and the bottom up. Looks like it works to me. What’s the problem?

Exactly. This is "equity," playing out in real time. I hope all of you who voted for this are happy with yourselves?

Next election cycle, find some legitimate conservatives to run for school board instead of a bunch of MAGA clowns and I'll be glad to vote for one of them.

You will accuse any one endorsed by republicans as a “MAGA clown” so your opinion is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny. SBG was designed to bring the top down and the bottom up. Looks like it works to me. What’s the problem?

Exactly. This is "equity," playing out in real time. I hope all of you who voted for this are happy with yourselves?

Standards based grading was designed to accurately reflect what students could do. Lots of students who got all A’s and B’s because they “played the game” well struggled on AP exams and in college because their high grades misled them on their actual abilities. There are a lot more average students out there than parents want to admit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty funny. SBG was designed to bring the top down and the bottom up. Looks like it works to me. What’s the problem?

Exactly. This is "equity," playing out in real time. I hope all of you who voted for this are happy with yourselves?

Next election cycle, find some legitimate conservatives to run for school board instead of a bunch of MAGA clowns and I'll be glad to vote for one of them.

You will accuse any one endorsed by republicans as a “MAGA clown” so your opinion is irrelevant.

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