"Don't Text Me So Early!"

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Anonymous wrote:I work 7p-7a. I realize I'm the odd one out so keep my texts 8a-9p. She could have handled this better, but you really shouldn't text so early, especially for family members who probably have your numbers on the list of contacts to go around the DND


Who keeps their SIL as a break through emergency contact?


NP. I do. She lives close to my elderly ILs. DH and I would want to know if anything is going on, and she’d likely text both of us if something were happening. Yes, she would call if one of them died, but she’d probably text if it was, like, “We just arrived at the ER because FIL was having chest pains; they’re doing his initial checks now. Will update soon.”


This SIL is married to her brother. She'd want to know if something happened to him. Think about this from her perspective. She was probably jolted out of bed thinking there was an emergency. Now she can't go back to sleep due to adrenaline and might have been woken up at at bad part of the sleep cycle that will affect her whole day. That's what she was reacting to.

Plus it was rude to text her about a non-emergency that early. Her only potential rudeness was not saying please, but setting the boundary itself was not rude.


If so, she needs therapy for her panic disorder.


I just meant she'd have been startled and in a bad mood from not getting enough sleep thus being short in the text. Is that a panic disorder?
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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately people are extremely dumb and either don’t know that there is a way to silence notifications AND MAKE EXCEPTIONS for it, or they maybe don’t have an iPhone and it’s impossible?

I don’t text anyone who is suss re: computer literacy (this includes anyone over the age of 50) outside “normal” hours.


I promise you, I am far more "computer literate" than you are. Whether or not users choose to use the DND feature or how they choose to use it has nothing to do with it. It is rude to send an unimportant text that early in the morning, especially on the weekend. Even if the phone is on DND, I do not want to wake up at 8 am and see that annoying text from my SIL to start my day. I am sure nobody wants to hear from you when they first awake either. Do not text early in the morning unless it is urgent. It is rude. People do not want to see your inane texts first thing on a Saturday morning.


What's 'inane' about "Hey Susan, Michael graduates on the 1st and we are having a family BBQ that afternoon at 4 and would love it of you could come. Please let me know. No need to bring anything!"
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe this is an age related thing. Those of us who came of age before cell phones were ubiquitous might feel more strongly that courtesy dictates that you don’t contact people at all hours. People who who grew up texting probably don’t see it that way because texts are different than phone calls. It’s just a different frame of reference.

I don’t think OP or her SIL did anything wrong. OP wasn’t expecting to wake her SIL, and SIL wasn’t expecting such an early text about something that was not the least bit urgent. She’s letting you know her preference. If you care, take it into account. If you don’t, do whatever you want.


Age is definitely a factor. I also think people who expect texting to occur within certain hours have family and friends that work regular 9-5 jobs. I have family and friends working shifts that change from week to week or others that travel frequently. What’s normal working hours for 9-5 DC is different from their changing schedules. I don’t text intending to wake them but it’s understood we don’t have perfect information and I’m glad technology helps us avoid inconvenient noise.
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Anonymous wrote:Once again everyone, silence your texts and leave your ringer on for emergencies.


I'm with the other PP on this one. I am fine with silencing my texts. But I still don't want to have to see texts from you when I first wake up. Stop texting me between midnight and 8 am. It's really annoying--and not because it wakes me up. Because you are not the first person I want to hear from in the morning.


I’m quite skeptical that you have friends who want to talk to you at other times of the day.


The friends that I have are smart, educated, and well-mannered. Not desperate for attention and so selfish that they have to text exactly what's on their mind at 6:10 on a Saturday morning. People like OP are in my life only because I married their brother--and my husband doesn't really like her either.


A poster said it earlier - most of you show yourselves as very provincial ludidtes.


I have to ask, do you think you're smarter than the polite people here because you know how to use your iPhone? Can you not read here when people say they know how to use them? That it doesn't change the fact that it's rude to email people unimportant text messages at 6:10 am on Saturday morning? Not a single person has come back and said, "oh wise one, please teach me how to use my new fangled computer phone so that you can text me at an hour at your best and easiest convenience. Then we can all become members of the 21st century like you."Have you? Why do you keep calling people stupid?


You are the one who does not want to be intruded on and you have the power to stop it. You chose not to. I’m assume you are not 95 year old and know that this issue can addressed. You assume some kind of old school “manners” when we are talking about technology that allows you to address the problem. But you don’t.

That’s why I (and many many others) wonder if you are stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:Thats what my SIL responded with when I sent a note inquiring about her availability for my DS's HS graduation party. I sent it at 6:51 AM today.

My feeling is if you don't want alerts going off, then you silence your phone or set up Do Not Disturb. It's not like I was banging on her door. She has always been snotty so this is par for the course but I also sent it to others

Just gut checking myself here- there aren't time limits for texting, right?

Isn't it up to the receipient to control their own quiet time?


1) I think there are time limits for texting if you care to be considerate. You don’t know if someone has silenced notifications or not so you should assume they have not and be courteous to only text between 8am-8pm.
2) yes, ideally people should silence text notifications if they don’t want to be bothered by texts. But maybe your SIL forgot to silence texts or doesn’t know how to or perhaps even just the light from her phone woke her up? Even if she has texts silenced it’s possible her phone lights up when she gets a text and that woke her? Anyway, I still think since your text wasn’t urgent, you should have waited at least til after 8 to send it.

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Anonymous wrote:100% not you - people need to understand their phone settings and use them.

I wake up to messages from my sister (a teacher) all the time since she’s up by 5 am. Or from my SIL on the west coast texting late. I have my texts on silent 24 hours a day. I leave my ringer on so I’ll catch any emergencies.

On that note, phone calls before 8 AM *are* rude. Texts are not.


Thank you. I came here to post the same thing only with my family back in the UK. Reading this for 6 pages and not one person mentioning time zones tells me this is a xenophobic old lady group. Good God.

Silence your phone grandma, or simply learn how to use it. The world doesnt revolve around you. What's next? Telling people they need t send a polite text asking if it’s ok to text???


When I’m texting people in different time zones I’m respectful of what time it is there, because the world doesn’t revolve around me. Take your own advice!


But you’re the one asking other people to modify their behavior to benefit you. I would never expect someone to know which time zone I’m in and adhere to my schedule for texts because the world does not revolve around me. And it’s great that our phones now provide settings so that I have total control over notifications and don’t need to rely on others.

Are you too stupid to think that OPs SIL does not know what time zone she is in.


People travel and don’t always keep the same schedule. I would never expect anyone to give me a detailed itinerary every week nor would I look at it before texting. The responsibility to manage alerts is on the person receiving texts.

The responsibility is on you to not text at inappropriate hours. You aren’t special.


Not me! The sun keeps waling me up every damn morning. If God wanted me to have blinds he would have miracled them to me! Until then, the the sun's damn fault!
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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately people are extremely dumb and either don’t know that there is a way to silence notifications AND MAKE EXCEPTIONS for it, or they maybe don’t have an iPhone and it’s impossible?

I don’t text anyone who is suss re: computer literacy (this includes anyone over the age of 50) outside “normal” hours.


I promise you, I am far more "computer literate" than you are. Whether or not users choose to use the DND feature or how they choose to use it has nothing to do with it. It is rude to send an unimportant text that early in the morning, especially on the weekend. Even if the phone is on DND, I do not want to wake up at 8 am and see that annoying text from my SIL to start my day. I am sure nobody wants to hear from you when they first awake either. Do not text early in the morning unless it is urgent. It is rude. People do not want to see your inane texts first thing on a Saturday morning.


What's 'inane' about "Hey Susan, Michael graduates on the 1st and we are having a family BBQ that afternoon at 4 and would love it of you could come. Please let me know. No need to bring anything!"


DP but inane isn’t the right word…I think PP really just meant that OP’s text could’ve waited. It wasn’t that important that OP needed to send it at 6 am.
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Anonymous wrote:Thats what my SIL responded with when I sent a note inquiring about her availability for my DS's HS graduation party. I sent it at 6:51 AM today.

My feeling is if you don't want alerts going off, then you silence your phone or set up Do Not Disturb. It's not like I was banging on her door. She has always been snotty so this is par for the course but I also sent it to others

Just gut checking myself here- there aren't time limits for texting, right?

Isn't it up to the receipient to control their own quiet time?


1) I think there are time limits for texting if you care to be considerate. You don’t know if someone has silenced notifications or not so you should assume they have not and be courteous to only text between 8am-8pm.
2) yes, ideally people should silence text notifications if they don’t want to be bothered by texts. But maybe your SIL forgot to silence texts or doesn’t know how to or perhaps even just the light from her phone woke her up? Even if she has texts silenced it’s possible her phone lights up when she gets a text and that woke her? Anyway, I still think since your text wasn’t urgent, you should have waited at least til after 8 to send it.



Not everyone’s window is 8am-8pm. Mine would be 12pm-12am. Isn’t it great that everyone can set their preferred hours for alerts on their phone? No need to worry if your text is too early or too late because the recipient has 100% control over when they’re notified to read it.
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Team SIL. That’s a d*** move.
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Anonymous wrote:Once again everyone, silence your texts and leave your ringer on for emergencies.


I'm with the other PP on this one. I am fine with silencing my texts. But I still don't want to have to see texts from you when I first wake up. Stop texting me between midnight and 8 am. It's really annoying--and not because it wakes me up. Because you are not the first person I want to hear from in the morning.


I’m quite skeptical that you have friends who want to talk to you at other times of the day.


The friends that I have are smart, educated, and well-mannered. Not desperate for attention and so selfish that they have to text exactly what's on their mind at 6:10 on a Saturday morning. People like OP are in my life only because I married their brother--and my husband doesn't really like her either.


A poster said it earlier - most of you show yourselves as very provincial ludidtes.


I have to ask, do you think you're smarter than the polite people here because you know how to use your iPhone? Can you not read here when people say they know how to use them? That it doesn't change the fact that it's rude to email people unimportant text messages at 6:10 am on Saturday morning? Not a single person has come back and said, "oh wise one, please teach me how to use my new fangled computer phone so that you can text me at an hour at your best and easiest convenience. Then we can all become members of the 21st century like you."Have you? Why do you keep calling people stupid?


You are the one who does not want to be intruded on and you have the power to stop it. You chose not to. I’m assume you are not 95 year old and know that this issue can addressed. You assume some kind of old school “manners” when we are talking about technology that allows you to address the problem. But you don’t.

That’s why I (and many many others) wonder if you are stupid.


Ohh, we aren't wondering. We know she is stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:Team SIL. That’s a d*** move.


Didn't you already hear? That team lost. Because they are morons.
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OP is like my mother, though my mom has the excuse of living in Europe and being 77. One night, at 3 AM, she kept texting and texting. I had alerts on since she was dealing with cancer.
So, it was nothing, and I said it was night, and she said, why aren't you sleeping? And I said I would if you stopped texting me. She said, in a text, ok, then I will stop... then are you sleeping yet?
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Anonymous wrote:Thats what my SIL responded with when I sent a note inquiring about her availability for my DS's HS graduation party. I sent it at 6:51 AM today.

My feeling is if you don't want alerts going off, then you silence your phone or set up Do Not Disturb. It's not like I was banging on her door. She has always been snotty so this is par for the course but I also sent it to others

Just gut checking myself here- there aren't time limits for texting, right?

Isn't it up to the receipient to control their own quiet time?


1) I think there are time limits for texting if you care to be considerate. You don’t know if someone has silenced notifications or not so you should assume they have not and be courteous to only text between 8am-8pm.
2) yes, ideally people should silence text notifications if they don’t want to be bothered by texts. But maybe your SIL forgot to silence texts or doesn’t know how to or perhaps even just the light from her phone woke her up? Even if she has texts silenced it’s possible her phone lights up when she gets a text and that woke her? Anyway, I still think since your text wasn’t urgent, you should have waited at least til after 8 to send it.



Not everyone’s window is 8am-8pm. Mine would be 12pm-12am. Isn’t it great that everyone can set their preferred hours for alerts on their phone? No need to worry if your text is too early or too late because the recipient has 100% control over when they’re notified to read it.


That is great but also: don’t text people between 8pm-8am is generally (for majority of people) a good rule.
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Anonymous wrote:You have to keep other people's life circumstances in mind. Think about people with teens who might be out late at night, want to go to sleep but still hear their phones in case of emergency. Or an elderly parent who may need to contact them in an emergency. These are the reasons I don't completely silence my phone. So I agree, do not text people in off hours. It's no differen than calling them, which you wouldn't do.



This. I have kids and therefore would never silence my phone.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe this is an age related thing. Those of us who came of age before cell phones were ubiquitous might feel more strongly that courtesy dictates that you don’t contact people at all hours. People who who grew up texting probably don’t see it that way because texts are different than phone calls. It’s just a different frame of reference.

I don’t think OP or her SIL did anything wrong. OP wasn’t expecting to wake her SIL, and SIL wasn’t expecting such an early text about something that was not the least bit urgent. She’s letting you know her preference. If you care, take it into account. If you don’t, do whatever you want.


Two problems with your ageist post: old people not only know how to use their phones, but they also don't comprise the only age groups who understand texting etiquette. I am in my early 30s and think OP and the loon who feels so bad to discover what a rude, nasty shrew she is that she has to come here and call everybody old and stupid, are wrong.
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