To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So isreal issues are more important to some of you then women's rights?

This is not an Israel issue, this is about detonating any shred of decency and basic human values. It’s normalizing savagery and a descent into darkness.

The Israeli government (and I don;t agree with them) are responding to Hamas's denotaing any shred of decency and basic human values by their actions on October 7. Had Hamas not executed that attack, the actions of the last two weeks would not be happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So isreal issues are more important to some of you then women's rights?

The US is structured such that we can have different abortion laws in different states. In blue states where women care a lot about abortion, abortion rights have remained the same or even expanded.

We are not all required to think alike. You are perfectly fine with Palestine not allowing abortion, so you should be okay with a red state having a 6 week ban. If it's okay for non-Americans, it should also be okay for Americans.

We are fighting for the rights of women to control their bodies in the United States of America. Just because there are Christian moralists in charge ocertain states should not take away those rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
The tinfoil hat crazies really flocked to this thread.
Imagine watching the republicans in the house set themselves ablaze for 3 weeks straight trying to find a leader, and then typing
“The dems really need to get their house in order!”
The stupid is breathtaking.

It’s pure Republican deflection at this point. After all the GOP incompetence and corruption on display lately, they come in here posing as Democrats to try to change the narrative.

[Anonymous]

Why do we need to choose the lesser of the two evils? I am tired of voting for democrats and seeing nothing in return! At least the republicans are shrewd enough to get their agenda passed. Democrats just sit there wringing their hands and getting nothing done! Biden downplaying the loss of Palestinian lives and not ordering Israel to reign it in has been so embarrassing to watch. I will not be voting for this senile fool and I couldn’t care less if Trump is back in the White House.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So isreal issues are more important to some of you then women's rights?

The US is structured such that we can have different abortion laws in different states. In blue states where women care a lot about abortion, abortion rights have remained the same or even expanded.

We are not all required to think alike. You are perfectly fine with Palestine not allowing abortion, so you should be okay with a red state having a 6 week ban. If it's okay for non-Americans, it should also be okay for Americans.

We are fighting for the rights of women to control their bodies in the United States of America. Just because there are Christian moralists in charge ocertain states should not take away those rights.

Lol what are you fighting for? The ship has already sailed. SCOTUS has already decided it is the states who will decide the issue of abortion and nothing can be undone. The damage has already been done and none of the justices are retiring for the next 10 years so we are stuck. Democrats have proven to be so useless time and again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to choose the lesser of the two evils? I am tired of voting for democrats and seeing nothing in return! At least the republicans are shrewd enough to get their agenda passed. Democrats just sit there wringing their hands and getting nothing done! Biden downplaying the loss of Palestinian lives and not ordering Israel to rein it in has been so embarrassing to watch. I will not be voting for this senile fool and I couldn’t care less if Trump is back in the White House.

What did the Republicans get done during Trump’s term? What has the Republican House got done? Anyway, get a better set of talking points from your RW sites next time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to choose the lesser of the two evils? I am tired of voting for democrats and seeing nothing in return! At least the republicans are shrewd enough to get their agenda passed. Democrats just sit there wringing their hands and getting nothing done! Biden downplaying the loss of Palestinian lives and not ordering Israel to rein it in has been so embarrassing to watch. I will not be voting for this senile fool and I couldn’t care less if Trump is back in the White House.

What did the Republicans get done during Trump’s term? What has the Republican House got done? Anyway, get a better set of talking points from your RW sites next time.

DP at least the republicans value their base. The democrats are more interested in making nice to the republicans and meeting the coupist half way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to choose the lesser of the two evils? I am tired of voting for democrats and seeing nothing in return! At least the republicans are shrewd enough to get their agenda passed. Democrats just sit there wringing their hands and getting nothing done! Biden downplaying the loss of Palestinian lives and not ordering Israel to reign it in has been so embarrassing to watch. I will not be voting for this senile fool and I couldn’t care less if Trump is back in the White House.

Have you heard Trump speak lately? It’s an embarrassing assortment of incoherent rambling. He didn’t start in a great spot intellectually, but he’s noticeably and considerably declined mentally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to choose the lesser of the two evils? I am tired of voting for democrats and seeing nothing in return! At least the republicans are shrewd enough to get their agenda passed. Democrats just sit there wringing their hands and getting nothing done! Biden downplaying the loss of Palestinian lives and not ordering Israel to rein it in has been so embarrassing to watch. I will not be voting for this senile fool and I couldn’t care less if Trump is back in the White House.

What did the Republicans get done during Trump’s term? What has the Republican House got done? Anyway, get a better set of talking points from your RW sites next time.

DP at least the republicans value their base. The democrats are more interested in making nice to the republicans and meeting the coupist half way.

Yeah, they don’t value their base. They get nothing done. They rile up their voters to be anti-Lib in order to stay in power. That’s it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So isreal issues are more important to some of you then women's rights?

Do you understand how women are treated under Islam in the Middle East?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump simply is not a valid legal or ethical option. For anyone.

They remember NOTHING, apparently.

Nothing about how he incited 1/6.

Nothing about how he leaked highly classified info to the Russians on TV.

Nothing about he put his stupid son in law in charge of the Middle East.

Nothing about how he’s currently spending most of his time shuttling around state and federal courthouses because he’s being charged with a million felonies.

Disagree with Biden on Israel? Fine.

But the choices we have are the choices we have. And to think Biden is worse than Trump is absolutely insane.

The dirty secret is no one really believes what you wrote except for hard leftists because Dems overplayed their hand. Most people are thinking “how many charges? What is the left so afraid of?”

Meanwhile in reality…

New Quinnipiac Poll: Do you think Trump should be prosecuted on federal criminal charges linked to the 2020 election?

Overall: 54% Yes - 42% No
Democrats: 95% Yes - 5% No
Independents: 75% Yes - 37% No
Republicans: 12% Yes - 85% No
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3877

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump simply is not a valid legal or ethical option. For anyone.

They remember NOTHING, apparently.

Nothing about how he incited 1/6.

Nothing about how he leaked highly classified info to the Russians on TV.

Nothing about he put his stupid son in law in charge of the Middle East.

Nothing about how he’s currently spending most of his time shuttling around state and federal courthouses because he’s being charged with a million felonies.

Disagree with Biden on Israel? Fine.

But the choices we have are the choices we have. And to think Biden is worse than Trump is absolutely insane.

The dirty secret is no one really believes what you wrote except for hard leftists because Dems overplayed their hand. Most people are thinking “how many charges? What is the left so afraid of?”

Meanwhile in reality…

New Quinnipiac Poll: Do you think Trump should be prosecuted on federal criminal charges linked to the 2020 election?

Overall: 54% Yes - 42% No
Democrats: 95% Yes - 5% No
Independents: 75% Yes - 37% No
Republicans: 12% Yes - 85% No
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3877

That's OK. When Republicans win, they can fire a bunch of DOJ lackeys, install their own people and start prosecuting former presidents and politicians they don't like everywhere.

You opened the door. It'll be an interesting ride!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I won’t vote for trump but will absolutely not vote for a puppet. I don’t know who the puppet master is controlling the shots. It’s a real life wizard of Oz. Biden needs to be helped off the stage now. Imagine in 5 years. He is about to turn 81.

-Life long Democrat

Lots of “Life long Democrat”s in this thread. Must be the new “Moderate dem.”

You guys know that no one believes you, right? “Walkaway” must be coming back.

Why wouldn’t you believe us? More dems than you want to admit feel this way. We just wouldn’t dream of stating it publicly

Yeah, this is crazy. I'm one of the Dems who will not vote for Biden. And I know that I'm not alone becuase I've talked to friends who are equally conflicted. What do we do? I guess we have a year to figure it out.

He will be replaced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So isreal issues are more important to some of you then women's rights?

Do you understand how women are treated under Islam in the Middle East?

Or is Israel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump simply is not a valid legal or ethical option. For anyone.

They remember NOTHING, apparently.

Nothing about how he incited 1/6.

Nothing about how he leaked highly classified info to the Russians on TV.

Nothing about he put his stupid son in law in charge of the Middle East.

Nothing about how he’s currently spending most of his time shuttling around state and federal courthouses because he’s being charged with a million felonies.

Disagree with Biden on Israel? Fine.

But the choices we have are the choices we have. And to think Biden is worse than Trump is absolutely insane.

The dirty secret is no one really believes what you wrote except for hard leftists because Dems overplayed their hand. Most people are thinking “how many charges? What is the left so afraid of?”

That's how you rationalize it away? "Most people are thinking 'how many charges?'" That's not what most people are thinking. Most people are thinking Trump is a morally bankrupt criminal...but from the Republicans' POV, as long as he has an 'R' next to his name we'll look past it this time.

Not actually true. Bubble much?