Official November Shutdown Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Johnson sent everyone home and went to Paris. Cutting it pretty fine.

Good grief

I read on Reuters that they are planning to introduce the CR tomorrow.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-republicans-aim-release-shutdown-averting-measure-saturday-2023-11-10/

It doesn’t seem like a good sign when the “knowledgeable source” says they still can’t agree on the form or the substance of such a measure.

At least they're willing to work on a Saturday? I assumed they'd be flying home per usual so that is slightly encouraging. The bar is so low!

this didn't make sense. the house adjourned thursday before noon until Monday the 13th. they aren't working.

https://live.house.gov/

I read another article and it said they plan to put it on the floor Tuesday so it will be published today due to the 72 hour rule.

PP here again and they are doing a two step CR, no cuts.

Link please? I read Republicans are being briefed today but haven't seen any details. Thanks!

Sure: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-republicans-unveil-plan-avert-government-shutdown-week-rcna124629

While I agree it's kinda gimmicky I don't see why folks are so against it. If it was a clean CR until January people wouldn't care so this is a clean CR for some of govt until Jan and for the rest until Feb. Realistically everyone has to deal with this sh*t again in January.

It is setting up two shutdown fights in a row. We're on our second in a row right now and it's exhausting. And stupid.

Johnson is setting up the new year to be exhausting and stupid - for no reason. Why? Because he wants to be different? What's the upside here? For him or anyone?

Yeah - I don't understand the reasoning for the two dates. He said something about it giving them leverage but how?

I honestly don't even care as long as they manage to pass something. Don't you think if they managed to pass clean versions of these the Senate and White House would go along with it rather than have a shutdown?

This is my thinking, and I am a pretty far left Democrat. The door is open here.

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Anonymous wrote:Johnson sent everyone home and went to Paris. Cutting it pretty fine.

Good grief

I read on Reuters that they are planning to introduce the CR tomorrow.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-republicans-aim-release-shutdown-averting-measure-saturday-2023-11-10/

It doesn’t seem like a good sign when the “knowledgeable source” says they still can’t agree on the form or the substance of such a measure.

At least they're willing to work on a Saturday? I assumed they'd be flying home per usual so that is slightly encouraging. The bar is so low!

this didn't make sense. the house adjourned thursday before noon until Monday the 13th. they aren't working.

https://live.house.gov/

I read another article and it said they plan to put it on the floor Tuesday so it will be published today due to the 72 hour rule.

PP here again and they are doing a two step CR, no cuts.

Link please? I read Republicans are being briefed today but haven't seen any details. Thanks!

Sure: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-republicans-unveil-plan-avert-government-shutdown-week-rcna124629

While I agree it's kinda gimmicky I don't see why folks are so against it. If it was a clean CR until January people wouldn't care so this is a clean CR for some of govt until Jan and for the rest until Feb. Realistically everyone has to deal with this sh*t again in January.

It is setting up two shutdown fights in a row. We're on our second in a row right now and it's exhausting. And stupid.

Johnson is setting up the new year to be exhausting and stupid - for no reason. Why? Because he wants to be different? What's the upside here? For him or anyone?

Yeah - I don't understand the reasoning for the two dates. He said something about it giving them leverage but how?

I honestly don't even care as long as they manage to pass something. Don't you think if they managed to pass clean versions of these the Senate and White House would go along with it rather than have a shutdown?

most likely -- i was just curious about their strategy (or lack thereof).

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Anonymous wrote:Johnson sent everyone home and went to Paris. Cutting it pretty fine.

Good grief

I read on Reuters that they are planning to introduce the CR tomorrow.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-republicans-aim-release-shutdown-averting-measure-saturday-2023-11-10/

It doesn’t seem like a good sign when the “knowledgeable source” says they still can’t agree on the form or the substance of such a measure.

At least they're willing to work on a Saturday? I assumed they'd be flying home per usual so that is slightly encouraging. The bar is so low!

this didn't make sense. the house adjourned thursday before noon until Monday the 13th. they aren't working.

https://live.house.gov/

I read another article and it said they plan to put it on the floor Tuesday so it will be published today due to the 72 hour rule.

PP here again and they are doing a two step CR, no cuts.

Link please? I read Republicans are being briefed today but haven't seen any details. Thanks!

Sure: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-republicans-unveil-plan-avert-government-shutdown-week-rcna124629

While I agree it's kinda gimmicky I don't see why folks are so against it. If it was a clean CR until January people wouldn't care so this is a clean CR for some of govt until Jan and for the rest until Feb. Realistically everyone has to deal with this sh*t again in January.

It is setting up two shutdown fights in a row. We're on our second in a row right now and it's exhausting. And stupid.

Johnson is setting up the new year to be exhausting and stupid - for no reason. Why? Because he wants to be different? What's the upside here? For him or anyone?

Yeah - I don't understand the reasoning for the two dates. He said something about it giving them leverage but how?

I honestly don't even care as long as they manage to pass something. Don't you think if they managed to pass clean versions of these the Senate and White House would go along with it rather than have a shutdown?

most likely -- i was just curious about their strategy (or lack thereof).

The strategy seems to be aggressively destroying the function of the government.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know what happened with the rule vote today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what happened with the rule vote today?

As far as I can tell from the video they posted on YouTube, they met, heard testimony, then recessed and agreed to meet up again "after votes". I guess that's what's being streamed live on C-SPAN now, so TBD.

[Anonymous]

Saw on CNN that house Dems said they are willing to vote for Johnson’s bill.

[Anonymous]

There won’t be a shutdown.

[Anonymous]

House passed the CR.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction: clean CR with no Ukraine and no Israel funding. Senate and WH will be pissed but not worth a shutdown.

Told you so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There won’t be a shutdown.

...in 2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:House passed the CR.

Woo hoo! I’m nervous about 2024 but for now, relieved that we can keep working through the rest of this year. Glad the adults won the day.

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Anonymous wrote:House passed the CR.

Woo hoo! I’m nervous about 2024 but for now, relieved that we can keep working through the rest of this year. Glad the adults won the day.

No way there’s a shutdown in a presidential election year. The GOP always comes out of these looking stupid; voters have a short memory but I don’t think they want to test how short.

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Anonymous wrote:House passed the CR.

Woo hoo! I’m nervous about 2024 but for now, relieved that we can keep working through the rest of this year. Glad the adults won the day.

No way there’s a shutdown in a presidential election year. The GOP always comes out of these looking stupid; voters have a short memory but I don’t think they want to test how short.

Hey, I’ll be thrilled if you’re right, truly. This GOP seems particularly… stupid? Crazy? Both? But yeah, maybe even they won’t be that self-defeating.

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Anonymous wrote:House passed the CR.

Woo hoo! I’m nervous about 2024 but for now, relieved that we can keep working through the rest of this year. Glad the adults won the day.

No way there’s a shutdown in a presidential election year. The GOP always comes out of these looking stupid; voters have a short memory but I don’t think they want to test how short.

NP and I'm not sure any politicians lose that much if they confine the shutdown to a week or two. Depending on the timing no one misses a paycheck and for the most part regular people don't even notice a shutdown. Whether they win anything is up for debate but a small number of them may be able to claim some sort of victory from a brief shutdown.

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So, what is the story this morning?