First of all, no, those words don't mean the same thing. Second of all, allowing people to be seen as human beings and worthy of dignity isn't celebrating or promoting anything. It's acknowledging that not everyone is the same, and you don't get to tell someone they are offensive at their core. Third of all, think of this way. How much of this "celebrating gayness" would it take to turn you gay? How much? I'll wait... |
I'm not an impressionable tween or teenager. |
No one is changing their orientation based on pressure. Even when gay people were forced to marry they never changed their orientation, they just suppressed it. What makes you feel so threatened by the idea that gay people exist and that they are gay from birth? |
No, you are a moron if you actually think talking about homosexuality turns tweens (or anyone) gay. |
Pressure?? Are you kidding? It’s not “pressure.” It’s full celebration and reward of attention |
Ok. What amount of full celebration and reward of attention would it take to turn you gay? |
No amount would do it for me, but then I am a happily married, emotionally stable 46 YO with a lot of life experience, perspective and an understanding that life isn’t always going to go my way. I don’t crave attention or validation from others. I am secure in myself and have a loving support system around me. I am not the target of the celebrating- insecure, immature, lonely kids with none of the above. |
What does this have to do with the Florida law? Do you have concrete specific examples of teachers teaching that is putting kids in danger? |
Do you live in some bubble where you don't know gay people so think they're all attention seeking because you never bothered to get to know one? That's your fault. Why must teachers be punished because you live in some ignorant bubble? |
It has nothing to do with the Florida law that I can see. I was merely responding to the persistent poster who, for some odd reason, keeps asking what it would take to turn me gay. Why don’t you read back a few posts, join the conversation, and try to figure out what point this person is trying to make? |
| The important thing is that Desantis’ kids go to private school. |
Because there is no way to turn anyone gay. Period. Full stop. Nothing could have turned you gay in middle or high school and nothing can turn you gay now. Same for kids today. You’re either gay or not. Nothing any teacher tells you, talks about, reads to you, etc would have ever turned you gay. You can’t be turned gay not because you’re “happily married” (spoiler alert- many gay people are happily married too), but because — wait for it — you’re not gay, never was, and never will be. Same for any kid in school today. They’re either gay or not. Period. |
Oh, it’s the Full Stop gal again. Hi! Of course what you’re saying is 100% incorrect. Just go to any high school or kids school for that matter, and talk to the girls. Virtually all of them will tell you that they know someone- or they themselves- are experimenting with their sexuality. This can mean anything at that age and of course the vast majority will turn out to be straight as adults. So there goes your theory |
Oh hey, random pervert. Hi! Just how many random girls at any high school for that matter are you actually approaching to speak with them about their sexuality? You might want to check that. But OK, I'll bite. Virtually all of them huh? That seems... slightly suspicious. But you just said it yourself. According to your incredibly impressive but perverted scientific research of a creep, the vast majority will turn out straight. Which I assume is your desired goal. So what's the f-ing problem. They experiment, they question, and -- much to your delight -- they wind up straight. No actual turning gay here to be seen. What's the point of this legislation then? |
New Pp here. The person you’re debating sounds like she may fall into the camp that believes gay sex is a sin and that experimentation is sinning. Most people, even religious, know that being gay isn’t a choice. She isn’t arguing in good faith and telling you her real reasons. It’s almost certainly religion based. It’s against her religion to be gay so other people shouldn’t do gay thongs. |