Anyone else think schools will be virtual after Winter Break?

[Anonymous]

difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If posters on this thread who actually have school children want to minimize the virtual time in January, then practice maximum Covid precautions over the break. Avoid travel, wear your masks, skip the holiday gatherings, and don’t let your teens go to gatherings. Encourage your friends to do the same. I know it’s hard, but that’s what we have to do. Sometimes it’s hard to be the responsible adult, but it’s our job. Good luck.

I agree with you. Sadly however….

Making personal sacrifices in the name of public health and community-mindedness is not something we’ve collectively proven ourselves capable of doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's worth repeating that closing schools come at a high cost to the mental health of your kids. It also negatively impacts their education. Nobody should be looking to "go virtual" absent a true emergency.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/587041-officials-warn-crisis-over-childrens-mental-health-worsens-amid-pandemic?rl=1

Then there's the mental health of the 800,000 families who lost loved ones to COVID, the mental health of millions who suffered through COVID and may not be over it for years, the mental health of the medical staff that nursed those victims and watched so many die, the mental health of other sick people afraid to go to hospital wars overflowing with COVID patients, and on and on and on.

If only "your kids" matter in the universe, you are going to create a (literally) very sick society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If posters on this thread who actually have school children want to minimize the virtual time in January, then practice maximum Covid precautions over the break. Avoid travel, wear your masks, skip the holiday gatherings, and don’t let your teens go to gatherings. Encourage your friends to do the same. I know it’s hard, but that’s what we have to do. Sometimes it’s hard to be the responsible adult, but it’s our job. Good luck.

I agree with you. Sadly however….

Making personal sacrifices in the name of public health and community-mindedness is not something we’ve collectively proven ourselves capable of doing.

Then the only other solution I see is to force the vaccine in everyone. Those who refuse it should be cut out from the community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's worth repeating that closing schools come at a high cost to the mental health of your kids. It also negatively impacts their education. Nobody should be looking to "go virtual" absent a true emergency.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/587041-officials-warn-crisis-over-childrens-mental-health-worsens-amid-pandemic?rl=1

Then there's the mental health of the 800,000 families who lost loved ones to COVID, the mental health of millions who suffered through COVID and may not be over it for years, the mental health of the medical staff that nursed those victims and watched so many die, the mental health of other sick people afraid to go to hospital wars overflowing with COVID patients, and on and on and on.

If only "your kids" matter in the universe, you are going to create a (literally) very sick society.

Students came last. Time to close bars/restaurants/gyms (really?)/cafes, etc. Then close schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If posters on this thread who actually have school children want to minimize the virtual time in January, then practice maximum Covid precautions over the break. Avoid travel, wear your masks, skip the holiday gatherings, and don’t let your teens go to gatherings. Encourage your friends to do the same. I know it’s hard, but that’s what we have to do. Sometimes it’s hard to be the responsible adult, but it’s our job. Good luck.

I agree with you. Sadly however….

Making personal sacrifices in the name of public health and community-mindedness is not something we’ve collectively proven ourselves capable of doing.

This is ridiculous. Children around the country lost a over a year of education, many of whom will literally never recover. The harm from DL is documented, widespread, and hurts the most vulnerable children disproportionately. At the same time, women left the workforce in numbers not seen in modern times, and for many of them, they will take a lifelong hit to earnings and will not regain their careers.

People like you who whine on and on about how people don’t know how or can’t make personal sacrifices sound entitled, arrogant, and out of touch. Many, many people (disproportionately vulnerable children, service workers, and poorer women) showed they can make enormous sacrifices for society. But that’s not good enough for you. You aren’t getting exactly what you want, so you are throwing a tantrum and pretending nobody sacrificed enormously.

[Anonymous]

We all know who has refused to sacrifice. Quit coddling the anti-vaxxers. They should be refused access to the community - travel, schools, jobs, healthcare - all should be closed against them. As long as they insist on putting us all at risk, they should remain outside the walls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all know who has refused to sacrifice. Quit coddling the anti-vaxxers. They should be refused access to the community - travel, schools, jobs, healthcare - all should be closed against them. As long as they insist on putting us all at risk, they should remain outside the walls.

I’m fine with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all know who has refused to sacrifice. Quit coddling the anti-vaxxers. They should be refused access to the community - travel, schools, jobs, healthcare - all should be closed against them. As long as they insist on putting us all at risk, they should remain outside the walls.

I’m fine with this.

PP here. For the record I didn’t catch you were talking about everything. I meant I am fine with keeping unvaccinated families out of private schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If posters on this thread who actually have school children want to minimize the virtual time in January, then practice maximum Covid precautions over the break. Avoid travel, wear your masks, skip the holiday gatherings, and don’t let your teens go to gatherings. Encourage your friends to do the same. I know it’s hard, but that’s what we have to do. Sometimes it’s hard to be the responsible adult, but it’s our job. Good luck.

I agree with you. Sadly however….

Making personal sacrifices in the name of public health and community-mindedness is not something we’ve collectively proven ourselves capable of doing.

This is ridiculous. Children around the country lost a over a year of education, many of whom will literally never recover. The harm from DL is documented, widespread, and hurts the most vulnerable children disproportionately. At the same time, women left the workforce in numbers not seen in modern times, and for many of them, they will take a lifelong hit to earnings and will not regain their careers.

People like you who whine on and on about how people don’t know how or can’t make personal sacrifices sound entitled, arrogant, and out of touch. Many, many people (disproportionately vulnerable children, service workers, and poorer women) showed they can make enormous sacrifices for society. But that’s not good enough for you. You aren’t getting exactly what you want, so you are throwing a tantrum and pretending nobody sacrificed enormously.

DP. Calm down. I suspect you are on the same side. Many people (including on this board) refuse to make “easy” sacrifices in terms of wearing masks (eg thread of posters looking for mask optional schools) or people threatening picket lines and moving to Florida if they have virtual school for even two weeks in January leading to the much starker sacrifices you speak of. We should ALL be willing to make the short term sacrifices so that we can avoid putting any of us in the position of having to make the long term ones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If posters on this thread who actually have school children want to minimize the virtual time in January, then practice maximum Covid precautions over the break. Avoid travel, wear your masks, skip the holiday gatherings, and don’t let your teens go to gatherings. Encourage your friends to do the same. I know it’s hard, but that’s what we have to do. Sometimes it’s hard to be the responsible adult, but it’s our job. Good luck.

I agree with you. Sadly however….

Making personal sacrifices in the name of public health and community-mindedness is not something we’ve collectively proven ourselves capable of doing.

This is ridiculous. Children around the country lost a over a year of education, many of whom will literally never recover. The harm from DL is documented, widespread, and hurts the most vulnerable children disproportionately. At the same time, women left the workforce in numbers not seen in modern times, and for many of them, they will take a lifelong hit to earnings and will not regain their careers.

People like you who whine on and on about how people don’t know how or can’t make personal sacrifices sound entitled, arrogant, and out of touch. Many, many people (disproportionately vulnerable children, service workers, and poorer women) showed they can make enormous sacrifices for society. But that’s not good enough for you. You aren’t getting exactly what you want, so you are throwing a tantrum and pretending nobody sacrificed enormously.

DP. Calm down. I suspect you are on the same side. Many people (including on this board) refuse to make “easy” sacrifices in terms of wearing masks (eg thread of posters looking for mask optional schools) or people threatening picket lines and moving to Florida if they have virtual school for even two weeks in January leading to the much starker sacrifices you speak of. We should ALL be willing to make the short term sacrifices so that we can avoid putting any of us in the position of having to make the long term ones.

No, we aren’t on the same side. I don’t believe in asking people to engage in performative virus theater that is not likely to have measurable public health benefit while at the same time lecturing others on how they aren’t willing to sacrifice. It is absurd to believe, this far into the pandemic, that closing schools for two weeks will have any real benefit that would prevent the enormous harms many people have already suffered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If posters on this thread who actually have school children want to minimize the virtual time in January, then practice maximum Covid precautions over the break. Avoid travel, wear your masks, skip the holiday gatherings, and don’t let your teens go to gatherings. Encourage your friends to do the same. I know it’s hard, but that’s what we have to do. Sometimes it’s hard to be the responsible adult, but it’s our job. Good luck.

I agree with you. Sadly however….

Making personal sacrifices in the name of public health and community-mindedness is not something we’ve collectively proven ourselves capable of doing.

This is ridiculous. Children around the country lost a over a year of education, many of whom will literally never recover. The harm from DL is documented, widespread, and hurts the most vulnerable children disproportionately. At the same time, women left the workforce in numbers not seen in modern times, and for many of them, they will take a lifelong hit to earnings and will not regain their careers.

People like you who whine on and on about how people don’t know how or can’t make personal sacrifices sound entitled, arrogant, and out of touch. Many, many people (disproportionately vulnerable children, service workers, and poorer women) showed they can make enormous sacrifices for society. But that’s not good enough for you. You aren’t getting exactly what you want, so you are throwing a tantrum and pretending nobody sacrificed enormously.

DP. Calm down. I suspect you are on the same side. Many people (including on this board) refuse to make “easy” sacrifices in terms of wearing masks (eg thread of posters looking for mask optional schools) or people threatening picket lines and moving to Florida if they have virtual school for even two weeks in January leading to the much starker sacrifices you speak of. We should ALL be willing to make the short term sacrifices so that we can avoid putting any of us in the position of having to make the long term ones.

No, we aren’t on the same side. I don’t believe in asking people to engage in performative virus theater that is not likely to have measurable public health benefit while at the same time lecturing others on how they aren’t willing to sacrifice. It is absurd to believe, this far into the pandemic, that closing schools for two weeks will have any real benefit that would prevent the enormous harms many people have already suffered.

Uh, future policies can't remedy past harms because of those two pesky words, PAST and FUTURE. Maybe that's why your crowd really doesn't grasp public policy and has to infantilize the concepts down to theatrical level to talk about it.

Sadly, lots of studies now show that no amount of information or emphasis on compassion is going to make any difference. You will be the ocean that this virus keeps swimming around in and mutating in so that it never really goes away.

That will change your kids' lives for good, not one episode when they were 16 or under. Well done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If posters on this thread who actually have school children want to minimize the virtual time in January, then practice maximum Covid precautions over the break. Avoid travel, wear your masks, skip the holiday gatherings, and don’t let your teens go to gatherings. Encourage your friends to do the same. I know it’s hard, but that’s what we have to do. Sometimes it’s hard to be the responsible adult, but it’s our job. Good luck.

I agree with you. Sadly however….

Making personal sacrifices in the name of public health and community-mindedness is not something we’ve collectively proven ourselves capable of doing.

This is ridiculous. Children around the country lost a over a year of education, many of whom will literally never recover. The harm from DL is documented, widespread, and hurts the most vulnerable children disproportionately. At the same time, women left the workforce in numbers not seen in modern times, and for many of them, they will take a lifelong hit to earnings and will not regain their careers.

People like you who whine on and on about how people don’t know how or can’t make personal sacrifices sound entitled, arrogant, and out of touch. Many, many people (disproportionately vulnerable children, service workers, and poorer women) showed they can make enormous sacrifices for society. But that’s not good enough for you. You aren’t getting exactly what you want, so you are throwing a tantrum and pretending nobody sacrificed enormously.

DP. Calm down. I suspect you are on the same side. Many people (including on this board) refuse to make “easy” sacrifices in terms of wearing masks (eg thread of posters looking for mask optional schools) or people threatening picket lines and moving to Florida if they have virtual school for even two weeks in January leading to the much starker sacrifices you speak of. We should ALL be willing to make the short term sacrifices so that we can avoid putting any of us in the position of having to make the long term ones.

No, we aren’t on the same side. I don’t believe in asking people to engage in performative virus theater that is not likely to have measurable public health benefit while at the same time lecturing others on how they aren’t willing to sacrifice. It is absurd to believe, this far into the pandemic, that closing schools for two weeks will have any real benefit that would prevent the enormous harms many people have already suffered.

Uh, future policies can't remedy past harms because of those two pesky words, PAST and FUTURE. Maybe that's why your crowd really doesn't grasp public policy and has to infantilize the concepts down to theatrical level to talk about it.

Sadly, lots of studies now show that no amount of information or emphasis on compassion is going to make any difference. You will be the ocean that this virus keeps swimming around in and mutating in so that it never really goes away.

That will change your kids' lives for good, not one episode when they were 16 or under. Well done.

So, here we have someone both clearly science-ignorant and overtly nasty who is lecturing others on incorrect science and compassion she clearly has no understanding of. The lack of self-awareness is striking.

Be better, PP. And learn a little basic epidemiology while you are at it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If posters on this thread who actually have school children want to minimize the virtual time in January, then practice maximum Covid precautions over the break. Avoid travel, wear your masks, skip the holiday gatherings, and don’t let your teens go to gatherings. Encourage your friends to do the same. I know it’s hard, but that’s what we have to do. Sometimes it’s hard to be the responsible adult, but it’s our job. Good luck.

I agree with you. Sadly however….

Making personal sacrifices in the name of public health and community-mindedness is not something we’ve collectively proven ourselves capable of doing.

This is ridiculous. Children around the country lost a over a year of education, many of whom will literally never recover. The harm from DL is documented, widespread, and hurts the most vulnerable children disproportionately. At the same time, women left the workforce in numbers not seen in modern times, and for many of them, they will take a lifelong hit to earnings and will not regain their careers.

People like you who whine on and on about how people don’t know how or can’t make personal sacrifices sound entitled, arrogant, and out of touch. Many, many people (disproportionately vulnerable children, service workers, and poorer women) showed they can make enormous sacrifices for society. But that’s not good enough for you. You aren’t getting exactly what you want, so you are throwing a tantrum and pretending nobody sacrificed enormously.

DP. Calm down. I suspect you are on the same side. Many people (including on this board) refuse to make “easy” sacrifices in terms of wearing masks (eg thread of posters looking for mask optional schools) or people threatening picket lines and moving to Florida if they have virtual school for even two weeks in January leading to the much starker sacrifices you speak of. We should ALL be willing to make the short term sacrifices so that we can avoid putting any of us in the position of having to make the long term ones.

No, we aren’t on the same side. I don’t believe in asking people to engage in performative virus theater that is not likely to have measurable public health benefit while at the same time lecturing others on how they aren’t willing to sacrifice. It is absurd to believe, this far into the pandemic, that closing schools for two weeks will have any real benefit that would prevent the enormous harms many people have already suffered.

Uh, future policies can't remedy past harms because of those two pesky words, PAST and FUTURE. Maybe that's why your crowd really doesn't grasp public policy and has to infantilize the concepts down to theatrical level to talk about it.

Sadly, lots of studies now show that no amount of information or emphasis on compassion is going to make any difference. You will be the ocean that this virus keeps swimming around in and mutating in so that it never really goes away.

That will change your kids' lives for good, not one episode when they were 16 or under. Well done.

So, here we have someone both clearly science-ignorant and overtly nasty who is lecturing others on incorrect science and compassion she clearly has no understanding of. The lack of self-awareness is striking.

Be better, PP. And learn a little basic epidemiology while you are at it.

Actual epidemiologist here; and also a new poster. Masks (of appropriate standards and worn correctly) ARE EFFECTIVE, just as rigorous testing and subsequent temporary closures where outbreaks are present, are appropriate. I am not sure what you attempt to get at above, but actual science backs all of that up.

[Anonymous]

Have any local schools made announcements about what they’re doing after break? Our child’s school planned on testing on Sunday, school in person Monday; but that was before the extent of omicron was appearing