Anyone else think schools will be virtual after Winter Break?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why many 7th, 8th and 9th graders at many different schools are testing positive. We need to get boosters to the 12 to 15 group ASAP.

People with boosters are testing positive too.

I don't think that is the case in 99% of boosted people exposed. Maybe break though cases happen in older, immune compromised people such as people with IBD, people who take steroids, people who's liver doesn't function well due to alcohol abuse, Diabetics

All I can say as our kid's college dorm mate tested positive and became ill and our DC,( boosted in November) who was sleeping 6 feet away in a non-ventilated dorm room all week tested negative. There were dozens of other cases in DC's dorm as well and the dorm has 5 sinks and 5 bathroom stalls for hundreds to share yet DC never got it

Boost your Teen- it pays off !

[Anonymous]

My niece - vaxxed and boosted healthy, marathon-running thirty yr old - currently has a break through case. She will very, very likely be fine but there it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My niece - vaxxed and boosted healthy, marathon-running thirty yr old - currently has a break through case. She will very, very likely be fine but there it is.

Perhaps she had repeated intimate contact with someone with a high viral load ?

[Anonymous]

People who wear seatbelts still die in car accidents. That has NOTHING to do with the overall effectiveness of seatbelts. It's a straw man argument designed to distract from the real facts and available data.

Hilarious how parents paying for private school proudly trot out logical faults that their kids know from school are false.

Anyone looking at the overall vaccination/infection/death rate can see a clear picture. Some just don't want to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My niece - vaxxed and boosted healthy, marathon-running thirty yr old - currently has a break through case. She will very, very likely be fine but there it is.

Perhaps she had repeated intimate contact with someone with a high viral load ?

Why would you say that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s why many 7th, 8th and 9th graders at many different schools are testing positive. We need to get boosters to the 12 to 15 group ASAP.

People with boosters are testing positive too.

I don't think that is the case in 99% of boosted people exposed. Maybe break though cases happen in older, immune compromised people such as people with IBD, people who take steroids, people who's liver doesn't function well due to alcohol abuse, Diabetics

All I can say as our kid's college dorm mate tested positive and became ill and our DC,( boosted in November) who was sleeping 6 feet away in a non-ventilated dorm room all week tested negative. There were dozens of other cases in DC's dorm as well and the dorm has 5 sinks and 5 bathroom stalls for hundreds to share yet DC never got it

Boost your Teen- it pays off !

And here’s my anecdote. I’m not vaccinated and my kid who is vaccinated had covid and I was sole care provider and didn’t get it. So there’s that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s why many 7th, 8th and 9th graders at many different schools are testing positive. We need to get boosters to the 12 to 15 group ASAP.

People with boosters are testing positive too.

I don't think that is the case in 99% of boosted people exposed. Maybe break though cases happen in older, immune compromised people such as people with IBD, people who take steroids, people who's liver doesn't function well due to alcohol abuse, Diabetics

All I can say as our kid's college dorm mate tested positive and became ill and our DC,( boosted in November) who was sleeping 6 feet away in a non-ventilated dorm room all week tested negative. There were dozens of other cases in DC's dorm as well and the dorm has 5 sinks and 5 bathroom stalls for hundreds to share yet DC never got it

Boost your Teen- it pays off !

And here’s my anecdote. I’m not vaccinated and my kid who is vaccinated had covid and I was sole care provider and didn’t get it. So there’s that.

Correlation doesn’t imply causation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why many 7th, 8th and 9th graders at many different schools are testing positive. We need to get boosters to the 12 to 15 group ASAP.

People with boosters are testing positive too.

I don't think that is the case in 99% of boosted people exposed. Maybe break though cases happen in older, immune compromised people such as people with IBD, people who take steroids, people who's liver doesn't function well due to alcohol abuse, Diabetics

All I can say as our kid's college dorm mate tested positive and became ill and our DC,( boosted in November) who was sleeping 6 feet away in a non-ventilated dorm room all week tested negative. There were dozens of other cases in DC's dorm as well and the dorm has 5 sinks and 5 bathroom stalls for hundreds to share yet DC never got it

Boost your Teen- it pays off !

And here’s my anecdote. I’m not vaccinated and my kid who is vaccinated had covid and I was sole care provider and didn’t get it. So there’s that.

Correlation doesn’t imply causation.

It's obvious that 2500 years of logic, science, and reason haven't rubbed off on some people here despite their likely roots in western civilization.

You can't fix stupid, as someone famously said. So the rest of us pay a price.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s why many 7th, 8th and 9th graders at many different schools are testing positive. We need to get boosters to the 12 to 15 group ASAP.

People with boosters are testing positive too.

I don't think that is the case in 99% of boosted people exposed. Maybe break though cases happen in older, immune compromised people such as people with IBD, people who take steroids, people who's liver doesn't function well due to alcohol abuse, Diabetics

All I can say as our kid's college dorm mate tested positive and became ill and our DC,( boosted in November) who was sleeping 6 feet away in a non-ventilated dorm room all week tested negative. There were dozens of other cases in DC's dorm as well and the dorm has 5 sinks and 5 bathroom stalls for hundreds to share yet DC never got it

Boost your Teen- it pays off !

And here’s my anecdote. I’m not vaccinated and my kid who is vaccinated had covid and I was sole care provider and didn’t get it. So there’s that.

Correlation doesn’t imply causation.

It's obvious that 2500 years of logic, science, and reason haven't rubbed off on some people here despite their likely roots in western civilization.

You can't fix stupid, as someone famously said. So the rest of us pay a price.

Curious who is stupid in this scenario? The mom saying boosters work bc her kid didn’t get covid from roommate and the booster shot must be the only reason, or the unvaccinated parent who cared for vaccinated child with covid and didn’t get it? Just curious why one anecdote is more valid than the other? We know at this point vaccines are not stopping transmission, so keep that in mind while answering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s why many 7th, 8th and 9th graders at many different schools are testing positive. We need to get boosters to the 12 to 15 group ASAP.

People with boosters are testing positive too.

I don't think that is the case in 99% of boosted people exposed. Maybe break though cases happen in older, immune compromised people such as people with IBD, people who take steroids, people who's liver doesn't function well due to alcohol abuse, Diabetics

All I can say as our kid's college dorm mate tested positive and became ill and our DC,( boosted in November) who was sleeping 6 feet away in a non-ventilated dorm room all week tested negative. There were dozens of other cases in DC's dorm as well and the dorm has 5 sinks and 5 bathroom stalls for hundreds to share yet DC never got it

Boost your Teen- it pays off !

And here’s my anecdote. I’m not vaccinated and my kid who is vaccinated had covid and I was sole care provider and didn’t get it. So there’s that.

Correlation doesn’t imply causation.

It's obvious that 2500 years of logic, science, and reason haven't rubbed off on some people here despite their likely roots in western civilization.

You can't fix stupid, as someone famously said. So the rest of us pay a price.

Curious who is stupid in this scenario? The mom saying boosters work bc her kid didn’t get covid from roommate and the booster shot must be the only reason, or the unvaccinated parent who cared for vaccinated child with covid and didn’t get it? Just curious why one anecdote is more valid than the other? We know at this point vaccines are not stopping transmission, so keep that in mind while answering.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-covid-surge-shows-overwhelming-cost-of-being-unvaccinated-america/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why many 7th, 8th and 9th graders at many different schools are testing positive. We need to get boosters to the 12 to 15 group ASAP.

People with boosters are testing positive too.

I’m in a hotspot (not DC) and every adult I know who has been positive over the past couple weeks is boosted. That being said, with the exception of one friend who has health risk factors, they were all very mild cases.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it should be delayed until the test everyone within the school community. And then continue with weekly testing at minimum for the time being. This is possible at independent schools in dc. None are huge.

I'm the PP who posted the academic study links, and who thinks major shutdowns are warranted, and even I agree that what you describe is a reasonable middle-ground. Make Monday a test-everyone day, where students come in at predetermined times for testing. Since everyone should be back from their travels, this will catch most (not all but most) of the virus kids have picked up on travel. Tuesday is a virtual school day while we await results. On Wednesday, those kids to tested negative can come to school. Those who tested positive get to quarantine until five days after a negative test. Schools should re-impose weekly testing over the next month or so, to match the Omicron surge.

Leaving the USA over winter break and going anywhere else - to just about any other country save maybe Belarus put you in a less infectious environment than most of America right now

To fly to Europe we had to have a negative PCR in the previous 1-3 days AND proof of vaccination, including booster

AND we had to wear an N95 in the Airport the whole time and on the plane. The pilots were recommending not eating on the pre-flight announcement OR at minimum- if you must eat - remask between bites and no talking while eating

In our host country the entire population was mandated to test weekly, 87 percent were fully vaccinated

And then we had to test negative 24 hrs before our flight back plus show our vaccine records again or no boarding the return flight

US domestic flight meanwhile- you do NOT even have to be vaccinated, no testing required to fly AND inside the airport it’s like a giant mall with everyone with masks off eating, drinking and using community shared iPads to pass the time, order food etc…super spreader sites if I ever saw one

The US is a joke in terms of enforcement- just look at the TSA website and notice how hundreds of TSA screeners at every major US Airport have tested positive

If you must travel - leave the country or go somewhere domestic and drive .

Are there testing requirements to fly within a single European nation though?

[Anonymous]

I think the fact that Massachusetts school officials just shut down a teacher union request to keep schools closed Monday tells you which way the political winds are blowing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s why many 7th, 8th and 9th graders at many different schools are testing positive. We need to get boosters to the 12 to 15 group ASAP.

People with boosters are testing positive too.

I don't think that is the case in 99% of boosted people exposed. Maybe break though cases happen in older, immune compromised people such as people with IBD, people who take steroids, people who's liver doesn't function well due to alcohol abuse, Diabetics

All I can say as our kid's college dorm mate tested positive and became ill and our DC,( boosted in November) who was sleeping 6 feet away in a non-ventilated dorm room all week tested negative. There were dozens of other cases in DC's dorm as well and the dorm has 5 sinks and 5 bathroom stalls for hundreds to share yet DC never got it

Boost your Teen- it pays off !

And here’s my anecdote. I’m not vaccinated and my kid who is vaccinated had covid and I was sole care provider and didn’t get it. So there’s that.

Correlation doesn’t imply causation.

It's obvious that 2500 years of logic, science, and reason haven't rubbed off on some people here despite their likely roots in western civilization.

You can't fix stupid, as someone famously said. So the rest of us pay a price.

Curious who is stupid in this scenario? The mom saying boosters work bc her kid didn’t get covid from roommate and the booster shot must be the only reason, or the unvaccinated parent who cared for vaccinated child with covid and didn’t get it? Just curious why one anecdote is more valid than the other? We know at this point vaccines are not stopping transmission, so keep that in mind while answering.

BECAUSE VACCINES WERE NEVER GUARANTEED TO STOP ALL TRANSMISSION, OK? THEY SLOW IT DOWN DRAMATICALLY AMONG THOSE VACCINATED AND BOOSTED, AS THE EVIDENCE SHOWS. JUST LIKE SEATBELTS DON'T STOP ALL TRAFFIC DEATHS BUT DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THEM.

If you would stop playing Don Quixote and charging at windmills to get off on your righteousness and absorb the real facts and aims here, it would be clearer.

Keep that in mind, OK?

[Anonymous]

"Just curious why one anecdote is more valid than the other?"

Anecdotes are one data point, not scientific examination, testing, and proof. Drawing wide conclusions from them is yet another logical fallacy to join the parade here. Calling one more valid than another is just nonsense.

Once again, private school parents who seem to know less than what their middle school kids at expensive kids already learned.