08 Girls

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was told by a parent that VSA sends more girls and PWSI sends more boys. I'm not at either club so this is anecdotal

I assume this was a VSA parent. In my experience at VDA, nobody particularly cares about the PWSI vs vsa stuff. They’re all VDA.

[Anonymous]

I guess PWSI lost a greatest coach, the one that really developed the talented players/teams when at u-little. It is not QP of course it wasn’t GP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess PWSI lost a greatest coach, the one that really developed the talented players/teams when at u-little. It is not QP of course it wasn’t GP.

Can I defecate in your mouth hole?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Business success vs players success, the club must do a better job at balancing this. As one post stated no club coaches at the grassroot level. Development opportunity was missed.

08G ECNL-RL is technically PWSI 08G A-team. Have a proper tryout. ECNL-RL is not the cream of the crop but it still requires a certain amount of skills and athletic abilities to compete. Mismatch in skills and speed = not fun. When it is not fun...well they quit or move to another club. It is too late for development for some. The team success will only happen thru good recruiting.

PWSI was decimated when they started VDA. It has taken time to build PWSI back up. It’ll never be what it used to be (that’s now VDA) but between them and VSA, there are 2 good options for players in PW who do not make VDA. I know that PWSI lost their whole first 08 team to vda and bryc with the exception of one player. So using the 08 age group as an example isn’t a hood one because it’s a second team making the transition to a league where they play all first teams. The team has added players and is getting better though. PWSI’s struggles clearly come down to promoting all of their best players to VDA then losing what is leftover to less ECNL/GA’s in NOVA. Very few 09 PWSI players will make vda. It will be lots of vsa players so vsa will have the same issues.

Understandable but what about the other age groups for PWSI? Like I mentioned before beyond the 08 team I don't see a PWSI squad in there that has a record above .500 and that has to mean something right? But I do agree you're hitting the nail on the head with a lot of points. In fact I don't even think PWSI fields a lot of teams in NCSL above U13 aside from their classic teams which also aren't many and are usually never open to new talent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess PWSI lost a greatest coach, the one that really developed the talented players/teams when at u-little. It is not QP of course it wasn’t GP.

Can I defecate in your mouth hole?

Sheeeeeeesh. I have an idea on who this QP you're referring to is but no idea who GP is.

[Anonymous]

News flash, nobody really cares about the RL teams or lower. Maybe his parents you care but the club's flagship program is VDA and that is the first priority. Anything beyond that doesn't really matter that much to the club. Honestly some of the coaching for regional League teams and classic teams is just plain lazy or not thorough enough to put strong teams on the field that are well coached.

[Anonymous]

MC washing his hands and leaving the club with all these issues. VSA the one with all the advantage, see how many teams the have per age, they can name one team per each USWNT player. Watch out McLean, this is your future stage.

[Anonymous]

PWSI suffers from Big club syndrome. Arlington & Loudon have the same kinds of problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PWSI suffers from Big club syndrome. Arlington & Loudon have the same kinds of problems.

PWSI is about 1/5 the size of those clubs named above. A big club?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:News flash, nobody really cares about the RL teams or lower. Maybe his parents you care but the club's flagship program is VDA and that is the first priority. Anything beyond that doesn't really matter that much to the club. Honestly some of the coaching for regional League teams and classic teams is just plain lazy or not thorough enough to put strong teams on the field that are well coached.

Makes sense. I just wonder how sustainable a model like that is to neglect the lower teams. Flagship programs are nice but when the club(s) that build those suffer I don't see how that kind of model can sustain long term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash, nobody really cares about the RL teams or lower. Maybe his parents you care but the club's flagship program is VDA and that is the first priority. Anything beyond that doesn't really matter that much to the club. Honestly some of the coaching for regional League teams and classic teams is just plain lazy or not thorough enough to put strong teams on the field that are well coached.

Makes sense. I just wonder how sustainable a model like that is to neglect the lower teams. Flagship programs are nice but when the club(s) that build those suffer I don't see how that kind of model can sustain long term.

Lower teams are not neglected at PWSI and VSA. Those teams have professional coaches that work hard. Because a team does not win does not mean they are neglected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash, nobody really cares about the RL teams or lower. Maybe his parents you care but the club's flagship program is VDA and that is the first priority. Anything beyond that doesn't really matter that much to the club. Honestly some of the coaching for regional League teams and classic teams is just plain lazy or not thorough enough to put strong teams on the field that are well coached.

Makes sense. I just wonder how sustainable a model like that is to neglect the lower teams. Flagship programs are nice but when the club(s) that build those suffer I don't see how that kind of model can sustain long term.

Lower teams are not neglected at PWSI and VSA. Those teams have professional coaches that work hard. Because a team does not win does not mean they are neglected.

I wasn't trying to infer that they are neglected. I was simply pointing out that for whatever reason or another you can clearly see that PWSI just does not have the numbers to sustain grassroots and lower tier teams on the girls side.

For example as one PP mentioned. In the 08G category they are fielding a team in ECNL-RL that should realistically probably be more of just their 08G 'A' team competing in another league. Beyond that for the age group they field two classic teams that compete in NCSL with coaches that aren't licensed (maybe they are but according to how they put it, classic teams only need to be coached by someone who is working towards obtaining their 'D' license but the 'future will only allow coaches that have at LEAST a D license'.

I do understand that sometimes wins and losses aren't directly tied to the performance on the field but I do find it odd that up and down the line of teams they field in ECNL from U13 up I think maybe one has a winning record and its the U18/U19. That problem doesn't exist with their partner club who funnels players into VDA as well. There's some skepticism that VSA will soon go down the same route that PWSI has but as of right now they not only can send players up to play at VDA they also keep their lower teams competitive and their grassroots program stocked with players.

At the end of the day maybe I'm going on about things that are just the norm amongst clubs around the area but from my perspective I don't think so. Which is why I wonder about PWSI and the eastern part of PWC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:News flash, nobody really cares about the RL teams or lower. Maybe his parents you care but the club's flagship program is VDA and that is the first priority. Anything beyond that doesn't really matter that much to the club. Honestly some of the coaching for regional League teams and classic teams is just plain lazy or not thorough enough to put strong teams on the field that are well coached.

Makes sense. I just wonder how sustainable a model like that is to neglect the lower teams. Flagship programs are nice but when the club(s) that build those suffer I don't see how that kind of model can sustain long term.

Lower teams are not neglected at PWSI and VSA. Those teams have professional coaches that work hard. Because a team does not win does not mean they are neglected.

I wasn't trying to infer that they are neglected. I was simply pointing out that for whatever reason or another you can clearly see that PWSI just does not have the numbers to sustain grassroots and lower tier teams on the girls side.

For example as one PP mentioned. In the 08G category they are fielding a team in ECNL-RL that should realistically probably be more of just their 08G 'A' team competing in another league. Beyond that for the age group they field two classic teams that compete in NCSL with coaches that aren't licensed (maybe they are but according to how they put it, classic teams only need to be coached by someone who is working towards obtaining their 'D' license but the 'future will only allow coaches that have at LEAST a D license'.

I do understand that sometimes wins and losses aren't directly tied to the performance on the field but I do find it odd that up and down the line of teams they field in ECNL from U13 up I think maybe one has a winning record and its the U18/U19. That problem doesn't exist with their partner club who funnels players into VDA as well. There's some skepticism that VSA will soon go down the same route that PWSI has but as of right now they not only can send players up to play at VDA they also keep their lower teams competitive and their grassroots program stocked with players.

At the end of the day maybe I'm going on about things that are just the norm amongst clubs around the area but from my perspective I don't think so. Which is why I wonder about PWSI and the eastern part of PWC.

The “grassroots” teams at PWSI are good. They are the pre-VDA teams. They’re the players that feed VDA so obviously those teams are good. VSA is a much larger club than PWSI. I doubt they’ll have the dip PWSI is currently working itself out of. I do not know anything about the classic teams other than they play in the PWSI tournaments.

[Anonymous]

If the coach of a team is not license or is just in n the process of getting their d license, it is a neglected team. Pwsi is just putting someone in front of you to coach. You as a parent do not know what to look for in a quality coach otherwise you would complain about it to the club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the coach of a team is not license or is just in n the process of getting their d license, it is a neglected team. Pwsi is just putting someone in front of you to coach. You as a parent do not know what to look for in a quality coach otherwise you would complain about it to the club.

All of the PWSI travel teams have professional licensed coaches (very good ones). The classic teams are a separate program not related to the travel program.