DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t Maret put a practice field on the front lawn of Maret’s big white plantation house? There seems to be lots of space.

That would ruin the landscaping (and cost more money)!

It’s a historic property. The front lawn/view of the historic property is protected by, well, historic protections.

Is the parking lot historic? Dig it up, put in underground parking and put a field over it. That wouldn’t be enough space for a full field? You mean like the space at Hardy people keep going on about?

This is what Sidwell Friends did.

But I agree with others, there is a lot of paved space at Hardy. Surely some of it should be repurposed for the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that designation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Maret didn’t seek that out. The house is Woodley House. It’s the reason Woodley Park is named Woodley Park. It’s literally historic. Not everything is a conspiracy, Karen.

Building a field wouldn’t necessarily run afoul of historical property designation.

But Maret would rather use their political clout to usurp field space from unconnected middle- and low-income families than to deal with their elite neighbors.

You mean unconnected middle and low income families from Georgetown and Palisades? LOL

You really don’t know what you’re talking about, do you? I figure most people supporting this deal understand the effect monopolizing this space has on kids. But you actually don’t have a clue, do you? You have no context. You really should get out into the community more. Like the Maret marketing video says they do. Not that they actually do, of course. In any case, you need to get out more.

Like the PG community.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that des ignation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Keep in mind that Maret used to have a baseball field. They made the choice to build a building there.

+1. Maret has champagne tastes with a beer budget. They don’t seem to be able to put up the money for a field like every other private in this area does. DC doesn’t need to provide welfare to a private school, even if Jack Evans kid did go there.

Yes paying for a fields development and upkeep is welfare.

Maret will be paying less than 100k/year to use a piece of land that DC paid 15 million dollars a year to buy. If Maret is so sure it’s paying a fair market rate for the field, why did it push to get a no-bid contract for the field?

So when you rent an apartment that cost the owner $1 million to buy or build, do you rent if for $1 million per year? DC bought a capital asset that it intends to own and operate for a very long time horizon. Maret then paid for improvements and maintenance. One can debate whether the Market rent should be higher, but citing the purchase price for real estate in expensive Georgetown is a silly comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that des ignation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Keep in mind that Maret used to have a baseball field. They made the choice to build a building there.

+1. Maret has champagne tastes with a beer budget. They don’t seem to be able to put up the money for a field like every other private in this area does. DC doesn’t need to provide welfare to a private school, even if Jack Evans kid did go there.

Yes paying for a fields development and upkeep is welfare.

Maret will be paying less than 100k/year to use a piece of land that DC paid 15 million dollars a year to buy. If Maret is so sure it’s paying a fair market rate for the field, why did it push to get a no-bid contract for the field?

So when you rent an apartment that cost the owner $1 million to buy or build, do you rent if for $1 million per year? DC bought a capital asset that it intends to own and operate for a very long time horizon. Maret then paid for improvements and maintenance. One can debate whether the Market rent should be higher, but citing the purchase price for real estate in expensive Georgetown is a silly comparison.

No, you don't rent it for the purchase price BUT you do rent it out for at least the monthly mortgage price. In this case, the financing cost was 5% ($750,000 per year) and Maret has come no where near paying that much. What makes this situation even worse is that DC never had full rights to the property. To use your analogy, we purchased an investment property and immediately rented it out for a gigantic loss! If this was a private transaction the IRS would be all over it investigating everyone involved for money laundering.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that des ignation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Keep in mind that Maret used to have a baseball field. They made the choice to build a building there.

+1. Maret has champagne tastes with a beer budget. They don’t seem to be able to put up the money for a field like every other private in this area does. DC doesn’t need to provide welfare to a private school, even if Jack Evans kid did go there.

Yes paying for a fields development and upkeep is welfare.

Maret will be paying less than 100k/year to use a piece of land that DC paid 15 million dollars a year to buy. If Maret is so sure it’s paying a fair market rate for the field, why did it push to get a no-bid contract for the field?

So when you rent an apartment that cost the owner $1 million to buy or build, do you rent if for $1 million per year? DC bought a capital asset that it intends to own and operate for a very long time horizon. Maret then paid for improvements and maintenance. One can debate whether the Market rent should be higher, but citing the purchase price for real estate in expensive Georgetown is a silly comparison.

Of course you consider the purchase price/value of an asset when setting rents. It’s not silly at all. That’s why rent v. buy calculators are so interesting. Also, if Maret knew they would monopolize this field for 20 years, I’m sure they considered the cost of this versus the cost of other options, including buying their own land. There’s a reason they took this route.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that designation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Maret didn’t seek that out. The house is Woodley House. It’s the reason Woodley Park is named Woodley Park. It’s literally historic. Not everything is a conspiracy, Karen.

Building a field wouldn’t necessarily run afoul of historical property designation.

But Maret would rather use their political clout to usurp field space from unconnected middle- and low-income families than to deal with their elite neighbors.

You mean unconnected middle and low income families from Georgetown and Palisades? LOL

You really don’t know what you’re talking about, do you? I figure most people supporting this deal understand the effect monopolizing this space has on kids. But you actually don’t have a clue, do you? You have no context. You really should get out into the community more. Like the Maret marketing video says they do. Not that they actually do, of course. In any case, you need to get out more.

Like the PG community.

How about MoCo and the NoVa counties where so many Maret kids are from? You will lose on this point, PP. Maret has many more non-DC residents.

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AU has a nice field they never seem to use. Maybe DC could rent that for the key two hours and "give" it to Maret if Maret "gives up" those Jelleff hours.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that des ignation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Keep in mind that Maret used to have a baseball field. They made the choice to build a building there.

+1. Maret has champagne tastes with a beer budget. They don’t seem to be able to put up the money for a field like every other private in this area does. DC doesn’t need to provide welfare to a private school, even if Jack Evans kid did go there.

Yes paying for a fields development and upkeep is welfare.

Maret will be paying less than 100k/year to use a piece of land that DC paid 15 million dollars a year to buy. If Maret is so sure it’s paying a fair market rate for the field, why did it push to get a no-bid contract for the field?

So when you rent an apartment that cost the owner $1 million to buy or build, do you rent if for $1 million per year? DC bought a capital asset that it intends to own and operate for a very long time horizon. Maret then paid for improvements and maintenance. One can debate whether the Market rent should be higher, but citing the purchase price for real estate in expensive Georgetown is a silly comparison.

Of course you consider the purchase price/value of an asset when setting rents. It’s not silly at all. That’s why rent v. buy calculators are so interesting. Also, if Maret knew they would monopolize this field for 20 years, I’m sure they considered the cost of this versus the cost of other options, including buying their own land. There’s a reason they took this route.

Since when is using the field for a couple of hours after school during certain months of the year constitute “monopolization”?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that des ignation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Keep in mind that Maret used to have a baseball field. They made the choice to build a building there.

+1. Maret has champagne tastes with a beer budget. They don’t seem to be able to put up the money for a field like every other private in this area does. DC doesn’t need to provide welfare to a private school, even if Jack Evans kid did go there.

Yes paying for a fields development and upkeep is welfare.

Maret will be paying less than 100k/year to use a piece of land that DC paid 15 million dollars a year to buy. If Maret is so sure it’s paying a fair market rate for the field, why did it push to get a no-bid contract for the field?

So when you rent an apartment that cost the owner $1 million to buy or build, do you rent if for $1 million per year? DC bought a capital asset that it intends to own and operate for a very long time horizon. Maret then paid for improvements and maintenance. One can debate whether the Market rent should be higher, but citing the purchase price for real estate in expensive Georgetown is a silly comparison.

Of course you consider the purchase price/value of an asset when setting rents. It’s not silly at all. That’s why rent v. buy calculators are so interesting. Also, if Maret knew they would monopolize this field for 20 years, I’m sure they considered the cost of this versus the cost of other options, including buying their own land. There’s a reason they took this route.

Since when is using the field for a couple of hours after school during certain months of the year constitute “monopolization”?

May I refer you back to the previous 144 pages of this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that des ignation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Keep in mind that Maret used to have a baseball field. They made the choice to build a building there.

+1. Maret has champagne tastes with a beer budget. They don’t seem to be able to put up the money for a field like every other private in this area does. DC doesn’t need to provide welfare to a private school, even if Jack Evans kid did go there.

Yes paying for a fields development and upkeep is welfare.

Maret will be paying less than 100k/year to use a piece of land that DC paid 15 million dollars a year to buy. If Maret is so sure it’s paying a fair market rate for the field, why did it push to get a no-bid contract for the field?

So when you rent an apartment that cost the owner $1 million to buy or build, do you rent if for $1 million per year? DC bought a capital asset that it intends to own and operate for a very long time horizon. Maret then paid for improvements and maintenance. One can debate whether the Market rent should be higher, but citing the purchase price for real estate in expensive Georgetown is a silly comparison.

Of course you consider the purchase price/value of an asset when setting rents. It’s not silly at all. That’s why rent v. buy calculators are so interesting. Also, if Maret knew they would monopolize this field for 20 years, I’m sure they considered the cost of this versus the cost of other options, including buying their own land. There’s a reason they took this route.

Since when is using the field for a couple of hours after school during certain months of the year constitute “monopolization”?

You're right, galaxy brain. The after school kids should just got there at 6 in the morning and 9pm.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are DCPS students “shafted” again? It’s basically the fault of lazy, incompetent school system administrators who are more interested in scoring more “free stuff” and perks, rather than focusing on building one of the best public school systems.

Huh? Are you a bot? The only one scoring free stuff is Maret who has a sweetheart deal paying less than 100k/year for exclusive access to one of DC’s few public playing fields in that area while poor DC resident kids get stuck using a basement to spend their afterschool hours.

Ha! Half of the “poor DC resident kids” are probably PG residents whose parents sneak them into DCPS and aftercare programs for their convenience. In many cases the cheating parents even “work” for the DC government. Talk about “free stuff” - except, of course, to the DC taxpayers who foot the bill for such fraud.

Any evidence that the kids at the Boys and Girls club at Jelleff are non-residents? Or are you just a Maret parent spewing lies because you can’t defend your own behavior.

Do public funded or subsidized rec programs check residency? I doubt it. The public schools do a pretty poor job of it.

You are doing a poor job of defending poor behavior by Maret where a significant number of students are known to be non-residents. While the historic designation limits building on the Maret campus (gosh, I wonder why Maret sought out that designation, hm?$), there is nothing stopping Maret from finding and buying a parcel and building their own field.

Maret didn’t seek that out. The house is Woodley House. It’s the reason Woodley Park is named Woodley Park. It’s literally historic. Not everything is a conspiracy, Karen.

Building a field wouldn’t necessarily run afoul of historical property designation.

But Maret would rather use their political clout to usurp field space from unconnected middle- and low-income families than to deal with their elite neighbors.

You mean unconnected middle and low income families from Georgetown and Palisades? LOL

You really don’t know what you’re talking about, do you? I figure most people supporting this deal understand the effect monopolizing this space has on kids. But you actually don’t have a clue, do you? You have no context. You really should get out into the community more. Like the Maret marketing video says they do. Not that they actually do, of course. In any case, you need to get out more.

Like the PG community.

How about MoCo and the NoVa counties where so many Maret kids are from? You will lose on this point, PP. Maret has many more non-DC residents.

Yes Maret has a huge share of non-DC residents. Ridiculous that the new line of defense from the Maret community is that the kids who want to use Jelleff after school are not DC residents. Anything to distract from their shady backroom deals with the DC government and their shaky financial situation that makes them unable to acquire a private field at a market rate.

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I used to live in Woodley Park and remember how huge their property is. Sad they're incapable of figuring out how to make that work.

Pretty understandable why they're ranked outside the top tier of DC privates.

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I don’t get this talk about Maret being in financial trouble. That certainly is not the case. If Maret made any mistakes, it was in not making an offer to buy the Hardy property cheap, when Hardy was basically a small failing urban school that no one in Northwest Washington would even go near.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get this talk about Maret being in financial trouble. That certainly is not the case. If Maret made any mistakes, it was in not making an offer to buy the Hardy property cheap, when Hardy was basically a small failing urban school that no one in Northwest Washington would even go near.

Lol so stupid

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Anonymous wrote:AU has a nice field they never seem to use. Maybe DC could rent that for the key two hours and "give" it to Maret if Maret "gives up" those Jelleff hours.

Why is DC in the business of providing facilities for private schools in the first place?