SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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I agree with everything you wrote. Carrie is the sun, moon, and stars for SJP, and her preserving not only the costumes but the props and furniture used on the original series is really odd; it's a very unhealthy attachment to the character.


I have so many questions about this. Did you watch the documentary? That was a crazy amount of storage space. Does HBO pay for it or does SJP? Does every series save all this stuff? I also watch The Connors and that set is exactly the same - did they have to recreate everything or was that stuff stored as well? There have been so many reboots lately, I couldn’t help but wonder 😆 if anyone knows anything about this.
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Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.


It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.


Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.


Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.





Both of those kids are obnoxious spoiled brats.
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Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.


It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.


Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.


Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.


Both of those kids are obnoxious spoiled brats.

I don’t love Lily either but what Rock did with the party - not telling her parents until THE DAY OF that she didn’t believe - is really bad. And I’m someone who got confirmed because her parents wanted her to even though I was already doubting and am now an atheist, so I get it.
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Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.


It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.


Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.


Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.




Both of those kids are obnoxious spoiled brats.


Actually, if Harry and Charlotte had actually, like, LISTENED not only to their kids, but to the other rabbis who said Rock wasn’t prepared, they would have never kept up the planning and preparation up to the day of the event.

My sister decided on the day of not to be confirmed as a Catholic. She had a crisis of conscience on the morning of. Luckily, I have parents who actually care about faith, religion and their child, not just about throwing some social event, so they supported her 100% even though family had come into town and there was a dinner. And don’t blah blah blah to me about how the party wasn’t as big a deal: Charlotte clearly cares more about throwing parties than true religious and faith-filled experiences.
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I agree with everything you wrote. Carrie is the sun, moon, and stars for SJP, and her preserving not only the costumes but the props and furniture used on the original series is really odd; it's a very unhealthy attachment to the character.


I have so many questions about this. Did you watch the documentary? That was a crazy amount of storage space. Does HBO pay for it or does SJP? Does every series save all this stuff? I also watch The Connors and that set is exactly the same - did they have to recreate everything or was that stuff stored as well? There have been so many reboots lately, I couldn’t help but wonder 😆 if anyone knows anything about this.


These are the kind of questions that go through my mind also! And I'm always curious about who pays for this kind of stuff. Who pays for caregivers for kids when actors who bring their kids to the sets?
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I agree with everything you wrote. Carrie is the sun, moon, and stars for SJP, and her preserving not only the costumes but the props and furniture used on the original series is really odd; it's a very unhealthy attachment to the character.


I have so many questions about this. Did you watch the documentary? That was a crazy amount of storage space. Does HBO pay for it or does SJP? Does every series save all this stuff? I also watch The Connors and that set is exactly the same - did they have to recreate everything or was that stuff stored as well? There have been so many reboots lately, I couldn’t help but wonder 😆 if anyone knows anything about this.


These are the kind of questions that go through my mind also! And I'm always curious about who pays for this kind of stuff. Who pays for caregivers for kids when actors who bring their kids to the sets?


This was SJP's project:

Sex And The City fashion: And Just Like That... costume designers on styling Sarah Jessica Parker once again for revival series

One of the best things about working on the revival was having access to Parker's archive collection from the original series and films - and the pair say there will be a few nostalgic sartorial surprises peppered throughout the episodes.
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Speaking about the star's Sex And The City wardrobe, he says: "We were so fortunate that Sarah Jessica archived a lot of the pieces. She made it open to us to be able to pull whatever we wanted. We were so excited about digging and seeing what was there and what we could use, and we place things in very specific places [in the new series].

https://news.sky.com/story/sex-and-the-city-fashion-and-just-like-that-costume-designers-on-styling-sarah-jessica-parker-once-again-for-revival-series-12488558
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Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.


It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.


Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.


Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.




Both of those kids are obnoxious spoiled brats.


Actually, if Harry and Charlotte had actually, like, LISTENED not only to their kids, but to the other rabbis who said Rock wasn’t prepared, they would have never kept up the planning and preparation up to the day of the event.

My sister decided on the day of not to be confirmed as a Catholic. She had a crisis of conscience on the morning of. Luckily, I have parents who actually care about faith, religion and their child, not just about throwing some social event, so they supported her 100% even though family had come into town and there was a dinner. And don’t blah blah blah to me about how the party wasn’t as big a deal: Charlotte clearly cares more about throwing parties than true religious and faith-filled experiences.


I'm not sure if it's the same though. Maybe it is - I'm not Catholic - but as I understand it, being confirmed is specifically an affirmation of FAITH - so you have to believe in it because that is literally what it is. But that is not what a bar/bat/bnei mitzva is. It is a celebration of something that happens automatically to a Jew on their 12th or 13th birthday - that they become an adult in the eyes of Jewish law. The way most Jews celebrate is by having the honor of being called up to read from the Torah in synagogue, which only adults are invited to do. It's not really about faith, and under Jewish law, as a Jew, Rock has become bnei mitvah whether they want to take part in this celebration or not. So I get that they didn't want to take part in it, and I also completely blame Harry and Charlotte for not listening to them before, but Rock should also have had this particular conversation before the bnei mitzva, not on the day of
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Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.


It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.


Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.


Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.




Both of those kids are obnoxious spoiled brats.


Actually, if Harry and Charlotte had actually, like, LISTENED not only to their kids, but to the other rabbis who said Rock wasn’t prepared, they would have never kept up the planning and preparation up to the day of the event.

My sister decided on the day of not to be confirmed as a Catholic. She had a crisis of conscience on the morning of. Luckily, I have parents who actually care about faith, religion and their child, not just about throwing some social event, so they supported her 100% even though family had come into town and there was a dinner. And don’t blah blah blah to me about how the party wasn’t as big a deal: Charlotte clearly cares more about throwing parties than true religious and faith-filled experiences.

They made it seem as if the rabbis weren’t straight with them on why they were bailing, though.
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Do you think SJP is aware of the largely negative opinion of the show, both critical and among regular viewers? If it comes back for a season two, will they fire the old, out of touch writers?
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Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.


It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.


Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.


Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.




Both of those kids are obnoxious spoiled brats.


Actually, if Harry and Charlotte had actually, like, LISTENED not only to their kids, but to the other rabbis who said Rock wasn’t prepared, they would have never kept up the planning and preparation up to the day of the event.

My sister decided on the day of not to be confirmed as a Catholic. She had a crisis of conscience on the morning of. Luckily, I have parents who actually care about faith, religion and their child, not just about throwing some social event, so they supported her 100% even though family had come into town and there was a dinner. And don’t blah blah blah to me about how the party wasn’t as big a deal: Charlotte clearly cares more about throwing parties than true religious and faith-filled experiences.


I'm not sure if it's the same though. Maybe it is - I'm not Catholic - but as I understand it, being confirmed is specifically an affirmation of FAITH - so you have to believe in it because that is literally what it is. But that is not what a bar/bat/bnei mitzva is. It is a celebration of something that happens automatically to a Jew on their 12th or 13th birthday - that they become an adult in the eyes of Jewish law. The way most Jews celebrate is by having the honor of being called up to read from the Torah in synagogue, which only adults are invited to do. It's not really about faith, and under Jewish law, as a Jew, Rock has become bnei mitvah whether they want to take part in this celebration or not. So I get that they didn't want to take part in it, and I also completely blame Harry and Charlotte for not listening to them before, but Rock should also have had this particular conversation before the bnei mitzva, not on the day of


The reading of a religious text is not…religious? Why not just recite a poem in Hebrew? Oh because it’s religious? If you don’t agree with the teachings of the Torah or the Bible, it would present a moral conundrum to be ashes to read them out loud in public, yes?

Why can’t someone have a moral tipping point on the day if the thing? A bride who realizes she shouldn’t marry the groom should go through with it and lie through her vows because cake/dress/family?
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I agree with everything you wrote. Carrie is the sun, moon, and stars for SJP, and her preserving not only the costumes but the props and furniture used on the original series is really odd; it's a very unhealthy attachment to the character.


I have so many questions about this. Did you watch the documentary? That was a crazy amount of storage space. Does HBO pay for it or does SJP? Does every series save all this stuff? I also watch The Connors and that set is exactly the same - did they have to recreate everything or was that stuff stored as well? There have been so many reboots lately, I couldn’t help but wonder 😆 if anyone knows anything about this.


I did! I love learning about how things work behind the scenes on film sets, so 90% of the "documentary" didn't do that for me. And yeah, I wonder how much she pays per month to store all that stuff! Storage prices are extremely crazy and volatile in this area, especially now. If it's in NYC, she's not only paying a location premium, a unit size premium, AND (most likely) a climate control premium, but probably an extra security premium or some other such nonsense.

Also, you made me curious, so I looked up her storage unit preferences (quote below from this article: https://people.com/style/sarah-jessica-parker-owns-sex-and-the-city-clothes-carrie-satc-storage/ , emphasis mine):

"I had all of the original stuff in my own storage. Furniture, clothes, everything, packed according to season and episode and scene," Parker noted. "I kept every single solitary thing."


That's insane. Can you imagine HBO doing it for every actor of every long-running show? On the show, Lily helped Carrie sort her clothes, so I imagine SJP paid a pretty penny for some FIT intern to do the same with all her stuff (given the volume of things, even at $15/hour, that's a lot of money and time).

I've never seen The Connors, but I recently watched American Crime Story: Impeachment and really enjoyed that. They had very intricate sets (I know one of Linda Tripp's children said that the house shown on TV was almost an exact replica of her house growing up) and a few of the actors mentioned stealing things like pillows and blankets from that. On a separate note, I saw an interview with Sarah Paulson, who played Linda Tripp, and it was fascinating to see the intellectual connection Paulson formed with Tripp and how she spoke about playing the character. It's the complete opposite with SJP: outside of squeals, a supposed "social status" she believes the role grants her, and playing dress up in designer clothing, there's nothing that she contributes to the role besides being a physical body to put on camera. When she was bragging about "having zero acting training" in the doc, I thought, "oh yes, we can definitely see that".
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IRL, Rock would be spoiled. So that’s in character, I’d say. I know plenty of kids like that who aren’t nearly as rich.

I also bailed on my confirmation, before I went through all the pre-confirmation counseling or whatever it’s called. And I would have known letting my parents throw a huge party only to bail was a bad look. But if my parents were dripping in money, maybe I wouldn’t have known that.
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The reading of a religious text is not…religious? Why not just recite a poem in Hebrew? Oh because it’s religious? If you don’t agree with the teachings of the Torah or the Bible, it would present a moral conundrum to be ashes to read them out loud in public, yes?

Why can’t someone have a moral tipping point on the day if the thing? A bride who realizes she shouldn’t marry the groom should go through with it and lie through her vows because cake/dress/family?

Highlighting this since ironically that’s perhaps what Charlotte should have done instead of going through with her first wedding.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you think SJP is aware of the largely negative opinion of the show, both critical and among regular viewers? If it comes back for a season two, will they fire the old, out of touch writers?


She’s rolling in dough and could not possibly care less.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you think SJP is aware of the largely negative opinion of the show, both critical and among regular viewers? If it comes back for a season two, will they fire the old, out of touch writers?


She’s rolling in dough and could not possibly care less.


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