SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea of a they mitzvah is stupid.

agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea of a they mitzvah is stupid.

Anti-trans bigots would say that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea of a they mitzvah is stupid.

Anti-trans bigots would say that.

I’ve always thought using the plural word “they” for one person is dumb.

[Anonymous]

Singular "they" has such an old history. The Oxford English Dictionary traces it back to 1375. One might say it's an archaic usage, but it's certainly not novel.

https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/

Of course, that doesn't mean you have to like it. Maybe they didn't back then, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.

It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.

Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.

[Anonymous]

I think the "worst breakup ever" bit was a somewhat hamfisted introduction to the theme for this last episode of the season -- Big is gone. Finis. Over. Emphasis on the "breakup" part (not saying it was well done).

The light, his voice echoing "you know you are free" in her ear, the letting go of his ashes. It's all supposed to be a solid line of transition, and that's what lets her kiss the new guy passionately at the end.

I think SJP has been intimately involved with the reboot, and that's pretty obvious. It seems like that -- to her -- CB is an iconic character. She archived the entire wardrobe, or at least everything recognizable. These things have been kept in mint condition.

I think she probably felt there had to be a heavily telegraphed transition -- a dramatic storyline with Big dying, and angst, and a kind of shepherding of the viewers over the hump of The Big Relationship. "Worst BREAKUP ever" is a blaring telegraph of what was coming. I think.

Mind you, CB and SATC were not iconic or defining of the times for me, so I did not need the help. But I think that was probably part of the thinking behind it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.

It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.

Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.

Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the "worst breakup ever" bit was a somewhat hamfisted introduction to the theme for this last episode of the season -- Big is gone. Finis. Over. Emphasis on the "breakup" part (not saying it was well done).

The light, his voice echoing "you know you are free" in her ear, the letting go of his ashes. It's all supposed to be a solid line of transition, and that's what lets her kiss the new guy passionately at the end.

I think SJP has been intimately involved with the reboot, and that's pretty obvious. It seems like that -- to her -- CB is an iconic character. She archived the entire wardrobe, or at least everything recognizable. These things have been kept in mint condition.

I think she probably felt there had to be a heavily telegraphed transition -- a dramatic storyline with Big dying, and angst, and a kind of shepherding of the viewers over the hump of The Big Relationship. "Worst BREAKUP ever" is a blaring telegraph of what was coming. I think.

Mind you, CB and SATC were not iconic or defining of the times for me, so I did not need the help. But I think that was probably part of the thinking behind it.

I agree with everything you wrote. Carrie is the sun, moon, and stars for SJP, and her preserving not only the costumes but the props and furniture used on the original series is really odd; it's a very unhealthy attachment to the character.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.

It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.

Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.

Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.

I’m sure it was unintentional on the show’s part but it is truly bizarre that in their quest to show diversity and gender fluidity they managed to showcase both Che and Rock as being narcissistic and selfish and painfully one-note.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.

It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.

Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.

Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.

I’m sure it was unintentional on the show’s part but it is truly bizarre that in their quest to show diversity and gender fluidity they managed to showcase both Che and Rock as being narcissistic and selfish and painfully one-note.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rock is so selfish and annoying. I hope she gets an ass whooping.

It’s great to come out as a trans. But if you don’t agree with having a they mitzvah, you should’ve just said that before the entire party was happening. Nobody called them out for that. But, as the parent of a difficult non-binary child—my kid would totally have pulled that crap too.

Yeah, I wasn't non-binary or trans but I sure was difficult and I would have pulled that on my parents when I was 13, too. I don't think we need to show non-binary and trans characters as being more perfect than anyone else - we don't need them to be perfect angels, any more than we need any other character to be.

I loved that Charlotte got bat mitzvahed. It was lovely.

Gay, straight or non-binary, if I had planned that huge event and my kid had decided at the last minute they’re not doing it, there would have been hell to pay. Life as they knew it would be over. They would need to earn back every single privilege and thing they take for granted. And no, they wouldn’t get extra coddling because they’re non-binary. As far as I can tell, that doesn’t prevent you from having basic decency and consideration for other people.

But it’s a tv show so all was well and nobody cared that the kid was a spoiled brat.

I’m sure it was unintentional on the show’s part but it is truly bizarre that in their quest to show diversity and gender fluidity they managed to showcase both Che and Rock as being narcissistic and selfish and painfully one-note.

+1

Yes, very unfortunate.

[Anonymous]

iranda in LA makes no sense. Maybe San Francisco. I don't see why you couldn't give her an arc that's very much like Nixon's. Have her run for Congress. But this time, she wins.

She's not going to stay in LA, because the relationship is not going to work out. Che is self-absorbed (dropping the news on Miranda at that weird party?), and Miranda is losing her sense of self, because all she seems to care about is this relationship.

[Anonymous]

It drives me a bit batty that they called it a They-Mitzvah. It's not a Him Mitzvah or a Her Mitzvah. It's a Bar (Son of..) or Bat (Daughter of..) Mitvah. And the way to make it gender neutral in exactly the same way as "they" is Bnai (Children of) Mitvah. I know that this most viewers won't care but if you're doing Jewish things then add a bit of authenticity!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea of a they mitzvah is stupid.

Anti-trans bigots would say that.

I’ve always thought using the plural word “they” for one person is dumb.

And yet people do this constantly.
“Who left their umbrella in the lobby?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It drives me a bit batty that they called it a They-Mitzvah. It's not a Him Mitzvah or a Her Mitzvah. It's a Bar (Son of..) or Bat (Daughter of..) Mitvah. And the way to make it gender neutral in exactly the same way as "they" is Bnai (Children of) Mitvah. I know that this most viewers won't care but if you're doing Jewish things then add a bit of authenticity!

Exactly. They botched the Diwali parts too