Biden's VP?

Anonymous
Her father was still serving in the armed services at the time of her birth. That is one of the conditions where he confers his natural born citizenship to his children born outside the US territories if he is not actually residing in the US. She is considered a natural born citizen even though born on foreign soil. She qualifies to serve as POTUS, so she is eligible to be the VPOTUS candidate.
Anonymous
what are the actuarial tables for warren, bass, harris, demings, duckworth?

serious question.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:what are the actuarial tables for warren, bass, harris, demings, duckworth?

serious question.


Hard to find, but summary of two polls discussed in this article:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/18/democrats-favor-kamala-harris-for-vp-by-wide-margin-poll-finds/#e73a5dd6da9c

...Monmouth University study, which is a randomly sampled panel of voters, primarily from four states, that, according to Monmouth, “cannot be statistically projected onto a larger population.”

The panel of 2,240 Democratic primary voters, conducted between June 1 and June 9, found

[...]
28% said they would like to see Biden pick Harris [...]
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) preferred by 13% [...]
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) was preferred by 12% [...]
10% picked former Georgia House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams [...]
7% picked Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.) [...]
former National Security Advisor Susan Rice and Atlanta Mayor Keisha Bottoms, only polled at 2% each



This panel stands in contrast to a Data For Progress poll, conducted by Civiqs, which found that while 50% of Democrats favor a woman of color for VP, Warren is a slight favorite over Harris.

In that poll, which featured a demographically weighted sample,
27% said they favor Warren,
followed by Harris at 21%,
Abrams at 14% and
Rice at 6%.
Klobuchar came in at 5%,
tied with Demings [at 5%].
Anonymous
I've long considered Lujan Grisham to be the best candidate for Biden. But recently I've been doing more reading about Susan Rice and think that she may be the best qualified candidate for the job (not necessarily the best to help him electorally, but the best qualified to handle the VPOTUS job and the one best qualified to step into the POTUS role should, G*d forbid, she need to due to Covid-19 or other incapacitation of Biden).

Despite the Republican talking points about issues from the past, she is clearly more qualified and competent to handle the foreign policy aspects of the job than anyone in the current administration.

I think this article sums up a good case for Rice.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-biden-running-mate-susan-rice-chapman-20200624-ddrfdtile5gtha4w3isqyk7vjq-story.html
Anonymous
I think in terms of experience, Rice, Warren, Lujan-Grisham, and Baldwin are first-tier, Bass and Duckworth are second-tier, and the rest third-tier. I personally would love it if Duckworth were selected, such an impressive woman yet very relatable at the same time:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/election-2020/ct-tammy-duckworth-joe-biden-vice-president-pick-vp-20200630-a42ifs4ybfbcngh7zz4lj7irku-story.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think in terms of experience, Rice, Warren, Lujan-Grisham, and Baldwin are first-tier, Bass and Duckworth are second-tier, and the rest third-tier. I personally would love it if Duckworth were selected, such an impressive woman yet very relatable at the same time:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/election-2020/ct-tammy-duckworth-joe-biden-vice-president-pick-vp-20200630-a42ifs4ybfbcngh7zz4lj7irku-story.html


^^I find Duckworth the most inspiring, Bass the most reassuring, Lujan-Grisham and Baldwin incredibly competent. They make me less nervous than the other women in terms of potential for attack ads.
Anonymous
Interesting article. Good that Joe’s team is researching this important issue: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/30/biden-vice-president-346149
Anonymous
Joe saying he will release a shortlist of Black women under consideration for the next SC opening:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/30/biden-black-female-supreme-court-nominees-345622

Also the first time he specifically mentioned Latina and Asian-American VP prospects. I think it could be Lujan-Grisham or Duckworth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Joe saying he will release a shortlist of Black women under consideration for the next SC opening:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/30/biden-black-female-supreme-court-nominees-345622

Also the first time he specifically mentioned Latina and Asian-American VP prospects. I think it could be Lujan-Grisham or Duckworth.



However the VP pick goes down, I think he'll put together an amazing team that includes numerous bad@ss women. Something like:

VP: Duckworth
Sec State: Rice
Sec Defense: Michele Flournoy
AG: Harris or Sally Yates if Harris doesn't want it
Treasury Sec: Warren (if they can navigate her Senate seat issue)
HUD: Bottoms
Education: Abrams?
Health and Human Services: Lujan-Grisham (though maybe she'd prefer to keep the governor's mansion for now, same for Whitmer)
Agriculture: Klobuchar (though maybe she'd prefer to stay in the Senate)
SC Justice: Leondra Kruger

A lot of names in the mix, many unknown to us, and more slots obviously but seems likely big names will take some. SO excited for a Biden administration:

https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-cabinet-vice-president-picks-b17882ac-3953-450f-8afb-38a3c8dcda57.html



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Good that Joe’s team is researching this important issue: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/30/biden-vice-president-346149



Interesting point that women's electability is often tied to compelling biographies more than policy prescriptions per se. If Biden takes that point into consideration, could give Duckworth an edge.
Anonymous
Tammy Baldwin so he can win Wisconsin. The state is an internal mess right now with the power struggle between a Dem Governor and the Republican Senate and court. The Democratic Governor has been struck down every time he tries to do something to battle coronavirus. Baldwin is a strong person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tammy Baldwin so he can win Wisconsin. The state is an internal mess right now with the power struggle between a Dem Governor and the Republican Senate and court. The Democratic Governor has been struck down every time he tries to do something to battle coronavirus. Baldwin is a strong person.



Baldwin is terrific but I think the optics of an all-white ticket aren't great, which is partly why I keep coming back to Duckworth as a more likely choice for general Midwest appeal. Also, although Baldwin's replacement would be named by a Dem governor, there's no guarantee the seat wouldn't turn in the next election. Duckworth's seat is safe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does the fact that she was not born in the US preclude her from becoming President in an emergency? I like Duckworth but given Biden’s age I want a VP who can step into his shoes if necessary. Otherwise I agree she would be fantastic


No, she was born to one parent who was a US citizen, therefore she is a US citizen. US citizens are born overseas all the time. Genuinely curious, what makes you think she couldn't step into his shoes if necessary? A veteran who has served in both the House and the Senate, and the VA, seems like she has pretty great experience. Led the Senate on police reform, has written op Eds on race relations and foreign policy, a moderate with strong appeal in the Midwest, I think she can make the experience case and would have broad appeal and built-in respect as commander-in-chief of the armed forces.


Yes, wasn't McCain born overseas while his father served in the military? And I believe Romney was born in Mexico.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does the fact that she was not born in the US preclude her from becoming President in an emergency? I like Duckworth but given Biden’s age I want a VP who can step into his shoes if necessary. Otherwise I agree she would be fantastic


No, she was born to one parent who was a US citizen, therefore she is a US citizen. US citizens are born overseas all the time. Genuinely curious, what makes you think she couldn't step into his shoes if necessary? A veteran who has served in both the House and the Senate, and the VA, seems like she has pretty great experience. Led the Senate on police reform, has written op Eds on race relations and foreign policy, a moderate with strong appeal in the Midwest, I think she can make the experience case and would have broad appeal and built-in respect as commander-in-chief of the armed forces.


Yes, wasn't McCain born overseas while his father served in the military? And I believe Romney was born in Mexico.


No, his dad was not serving at the time of his birth. He served both before and after. George Romney not Mjtt was born in Mexico, because his father emigrated from the US after a crackdown on polygamy, or something like that.

Duckworth's dad was serving at the time of her birth. She's 💯
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