Top 100 undergrad CS by US News

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For MIT grads, their stats in Computer Software are low $60,000 to high $160,000 with the bonus mean of $30,345. Their tops didn't hit $400,000 - at least not in 2018. Of course, this doesn't prevent $400,000, or a pie in the sky, in any other year.

https://capd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/about/files/OutcomeSurvey2018Final.pdf

MIT CS salaries for Consulting jobs are in the $80K range, quite a departure from the $115 someone quoted earlier. That was for Software Engineering & Gaming jobs which includes some FAANG and startups, but in reality this is a minority, like top 10% of MIT grads, rest are in the $80k to $100k range, just like other CS grads from state schools, may be they get $10K more, or like another poster said the state school candidate get $10k more if they have additional skill sets & certification.

Oh well, the DCUM bandwagon of misinformation rolls on

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My kid certainly knew Caltech and Berkeley aka Cal were 2 different schools and wasn't forced to attend any schools.

You obviously don't know these schools. That's not how CalTech is spelled.

Well aren't you the smart one?

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Anonymous wrote:Would you pick Berkeley over Harvard Yale and Princeton for CS?

If CS is what your child definitely wants to do and its a good fit. Yes

My kid chose Berkeley over Caltech and Yale for CS.

If in-state, that makes sense.

He was a TJ grad.

There's a story of an Indian family that forced their kid to turn down Stanford for Haverford. By the time the family discovered that Haverford is not Harvard, it was too late for that poor kid. OOS Cal goes for the same price as CalTech. PP probably thought Cal was short for CalTech. Too late for the poor kid.

You must be talking about the Appu family. Yeah.. they are a figment of someone's imagination. They do appear on the Simpsons though..

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I think this (old) article, may explain what everyone is saying here: you get more at bats with that 1st job, but several years in, it's what you can do not where you are from that matters:

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"This confirms PayScale data, which shows new Stanford computer-science grads get paid 9% more than MIT grads and 28% more than Cornell grads. But Willis says his data also shows that, after two years of work experience, Stanford graduates get no premium over graduates from other schools with equal work experience."

Stanford Graduates Get Fought Over by Tech Companies

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You picked a school to contradict your own argument. You are probably better off spewing the common anecdote here -- "someone graduated from podunk state manages several Ivy grads", or "GMU grad is making millions at age of 22". For an Indian back then, getting into IIT is more difficult than an American getting into Harvard/MIT. IIT is THE elite college for Indians. I have no idea whether that has anything to do with their hiring but it certainly didn't hurt their chances.

The reality is elite colleges admit higher quality students. The education they provided is superior to average schools. On every piece of resume, whether it's for fresh out of college, or 30 years into workforce, education is always listed. Selective employers use it to do an initial screen to lessen their effort for recruiting. It's only one data point. But it is an important one especially for fresh graduates.

IIT is a collection of colleges, some are ranked higher, some are lower. The ones in question are not so highly ranked.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/india

Doesn't matter. You don't get to pick. You are assigned the IIT based on your rank. Regardless of how US news or others rank the various IITs, they are the top tech schools in India. Most kids would rather go to the lowest ranked IIT over a non-IIT (but better ranked) tech school in India.

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Anonymous wrote:I work for BAH and we just hired five fresh of the boat graduates from CMU, UVA, VT, JMU and Penn State. They get the same salary, 100K, except the graduate from JMU got 10K more because he has experience with Amazon Cloud computing and the others do not.

I don’t know of anyone getting 200k or 400k right out of college.

For the student cohort at CMU, BAH is bottom of the pile. At UVA it's somewhere in the middle and the other 3 schools, they would be thrilled to get into BAH. The top 50% of the kids at CMU and top 20% of the kids out of UVA, get the bigger offers, though 400k is probably an "imaginary number".

Oh the hubris. BAH run multi-million dollar contracts all across the DMV area, they partner with all of the mega tech companies as implementation partners, and can give a fresh graduate opportunities to rise to a level they can like almost anywhere else. Wonder how may of you folks have any clue of Tech and what working at FAANG really means, just checkout some of the YouTube videos of the folks who got burned out slaving at FB and Google. Life isn't a bed of roses for a Tech at FAANG, it's not anywhere, it's what you make of it. Someone got hired for $100K at a top integrator right out of college, and the response to that is "oh well they are bottom pile", do you have kids? what do they do I wonder.

No Hubris at all.. Just facts. The median CS grad salaries (base) for CMU and UVA (2019 data) are 108,500 and 99,000 (from their websites; You can research the other schools), consistent with the percentages I posted above. I know BAH, very familiar with them and have a lot of friends that work there. It's a great company, but it's no FAANG, nor does it pay FAANG salaries. Facts are facts.

The rest of your rant about working conditions at FAANG, burnout, be thankful for $100 starting salary, yada yada yada are not relevant and do not negate the facts you don't want to acknowledge.

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For MIT grads, their stats in Computer Software are low $60,000 to high $160,000 with the bonus mean of $30,345. Their tops didn't hit $400,000 - at least not in 2018. Of course, this doesn't prevent $400,000, or a pie in the sky, in any other year.

https://capd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/about/files/OutcomeSurvey2018Final.pdf

MIT CS salaries for Consulting jobs are in the $80K range, quite a departure from the $115 someone quoted earlier. That was for Software Engineering & Gaming jobs which includes some FAANG and startups, but in reality this is a minority, like top 10% of MIT grads, rest are in the $80k to $100k range, just like other CS grads from state schools, may be they get $10K more, or like another poster said the state school candidate get $10k more if they have additional skill sets & certification.

Oh well, the DCUM bandwagon of misinformation rolls on

You just need to learn to read and find information.

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For MIT grads, their stats in Computer Software are low $60,000 to high $160,000 with the bonus mean of $30,345. Their tops didn't hit $400,000 - at least not in 2018. Of course, this doesn't prevent $400,000, or a pie in the sky, in any other year.

https://capd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/about/files/OutcomeSurvey2018Final.pdf

MIT CS salaries for Consulting jobs are in the $80K range, quite a departure from the $115 someone quoted earlier. That was for Software Engineering & Gaming jobs which includes some FAANG and startups, but in reality this is a minority, like top 10% of MIT grads, rest are in the $80k to $100k range, just like other CS grads from state schools, may be they get $10K more, or like another poster said the state school candidate get $10k more if they have additional skill sets & certification.

Oh well, the DCUM bandwagon of misinformation rolls on

You are spreading misinformation yourself. The survey is for all MIT graduates, not just EECS. We don't know how many EECS went into consulting. I see BCG and McKinsey are listed for EECS. But your run-of-the-mill system integrator consulting, like BAH is not listed.

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Anonymous wrote:I work for BAH and we just hired five fresh of the boat graduates from CMU, UVA, VT, JMU and Penn State. They get the same salary, 100K, except the graduate from JMU got 10K more because he has experience with Amazon Cloud computing and the others do not.

I don’t know of anyone getting 200k or 400k right out of college.

For the student cohort at CMU, BAH is bottom of the pile. At UVA it's somewhere in the middle and the other 3 schools, they would be thrilled to get into BAH. The top 50% of the kids at CMU and top 20% of the kids out of UVA, get the bigger offers, though 400k is probably an "imaginary number".

Oh the hubris. BAH run multi-million dollar contracts all across the DMV area, they partner with all of the mega tech companies as implementation partners, and can give a fresh graduate opportunities to rise to a level they can like almost anywhere else. Wonder how may of you folks have any clue of Tech and what working at FAANG really means, just checkout some of the YouTube videos of the folks who got burned out slaving at FB and Google. Life isn't a bed of roses for a Tech at FAANG, it's not anywhere, it's what you make of it. Someone got hired for $100K at a top integrator right out of college, and the response to that is "oh well they are bottom pile", do you have kids? what do they do I wonder.

No Hubris at all.. Just facts. The median CS grad salaries (base) for CMU and UVA (2019 data) are 108,500 and 99,000 (from their websites; You can research the other schools), consistent with the percentages I posted above. I know BAH, very familiar with them and have a lot of friends that work there. It's a great company, but it's no FAANG, nor does it pay FAANG salaries. Facts are facts.

The rest of your rant about working conditions at FAANG, burnout, be thankful for $100 starting salary, yada yada yada are not relevant and do not negate the facts you don't want to acknowledge.

LOL .. FAANG, how many UVA and CMU grads work at those, some, the rest work elsewhere, and happy if they can retain the job at BAH. I've worked with UVA CS grads, some are fine, some just not so. Going to a particular school or having some level of intellect to graduate doesn't always convert to Tech skills in the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:I work for BAH and we just hired five fresh of the boat graduates from CMU, UVA, VT, JMU and Penn State. They get the same salary, 100K, except the graduate from JMU got 10K more because he has experience with Amazon Cloud computing and the others do not.

I don’t know of anyone getting 200k or 400k right out of college.

For the student cohort at CMU, BAH is bottom of the pile. At UVA it's somewhere in the middle and the other 3 schools, they would be thrilled to get into BAH. The top 50% of the kids at CMU and top 20% of the kids out of UVA, get the bigger offers, though 400k is probably an "imaginary number".

Oh the hubris. BAH run multi-million dollar contracts all across the DMV area, they partner with all of the mega tech companies as implementation partners, and can give a fresh graduate opportunities to rise to a level they can like almost anywhere else. Wonder how may of you folks have any clue of Tech and what working at FAANG really means, just checkout some of the YouTube videos of the folks who got burned out slaving at FB and Google. Life isn't a bed of roses for a Tech at FAANG, it's not anywhere, it's what you make of it. Someone got hired for $100K at a top integrator right out of college, and the response to that is "oh well they are bottom pile", do you have kids? what do they do I wonder.

No Hubris at all.. Just facts. The median CS grad salaries (base) for CMU and UVA (2019 data) are 108,500 and 99,000 (from their websites; You can research the other schools), consistent with the percentages I posted above. I know BAH, very familiar with them and have a lot of friends that work there. It's a great company, but it's no FAANG, nor does it pay FAANG salaries. Facts are facts.

The rest of your rant about working conditions at FAANG, burnout, be thankful for $100 starting salary, yada yada yada are not relevant and do not negate the facts you don't want to acknowledge.

LOL .. FAANG, how many UVA and CMU grads work at those, some, the rest work elsewhere, and happy if they can retain the job at BAH. I've worked with UVA CS grads, some are fine, some just not so. Going to a particular school or having some level of intellect to graduate doesn't always convert to Tech skills in the real world.

That’s true, but CMU grads are going to be better prepared for the “real world” on average, and employers know this.

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For MIT grads, their stats in Computer Software are low $60,000 to high $160,000 with the bonus mean of $30,345. Their tops didn't hit $400,000 - at least not in 2018. Of course, this doesn't prevent $400,000, or a pie in the sky, in any other year.

https://capd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/about/files/OutcomeSurvey2018Final.pdf

MIT CS salaries for Consulting jobs are in the $80K range, quite a departure from the $115 someone quoted earlier. That was for Software Engineering & Gaming jobs which includes some FAANG and startups, but in reality this is a minority, like top 10% of MIT grads, rest are in the $80k to $100k range, just like other CS grads from state schools, may be they get $10K more, or like another poster said the state school candidate get $10k more if they have additional skill sets & certification.

Oh well, the DCUM bandwagon of misinformation rolls on

You are spreading misinformation yourself. The survey is for all MIT graduates, not just EECS. We don't know how many EECS went into consulting. I see BCG and McKinsey are listed for EECS. But your run-of-the-mill system integrator consulting, like BAH is not listed.

This thread is about CS, and the salary split is clearly for specific majors, within that sub-classifications. Get a grip, and learn to read. MIT grads who go into IT consulting make $82k on average. Oh wow BCH and McKinsey are what? BAH is run of the mill. Clearly, you got no clue on Tech or Consulting, you must be a DC lawyer or lobbyist. The most clueless lot.

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For MIT grads, their stats in Computer Software are low $60,000 to high $160,000 with the bonus mean of $30,345. Their tops didn't hit $400,000 - at least not in 2018. Of course, this doesn't prevent $400,000, or a pie in the sky, in any other year.

https://capd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/about/files/OutcomeSurvey2018Final.pdf

MIT CS salaries for Consulting jobs are in the $80K range, quite a departure from the $115 someone quoted earlier. That was for Software Engineering & Gaming jobs which includes some FAANG and startups, but in reality this is a minority, like top 10% of MIT grads, rest are in the $80k to $100k range, just like other CS grads from state schools, may be they get $10K more, or like another poster said the state school candidate get $10k more if they have additional skill sets & certification.

Oh well, the DCUM bandwagon of misinformation rolls on

You are spreading misinformation yourself. The survey is for all MIT graduates, not just EECS. We don't know how many EECS went into consulting. I see BCG and McKinsey are listed for EECS. But your run-of-the-mill system integrator consulting, like BAH is not listed.

This thread is about CS, and the salary split is clearly for specific majors, within that sub-classifications. Get a grip, and learn to read. MIT grads who go into IT consulting make $82k on average. Oh wow BCH and McKinsey are what? BAH is run of the mill. Clearly, you got no clue on Tech or Consulting, you must be a DC lawyer or lobbyist. The most clueless lot.

Stop acting like an idiot. You're becoming a laughing stock.

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For MIT grads, their stats in Computer Software are low $60,000 to high $160,000 with the bonus mean of $30,345. Their tops didn't hit $400,000 - at least not in 2018. Of course, this doesn't prevent $400,000, or a pie in the sky, in any other year.

https://capd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/about/files/OutcomeSurvey2018Final.pdf

MIT CS salaries for Consulting jobs are in the $80K range, quite a departure from the $115 someone quoted earlier. That was for Software Engineering & Gaming jobs which includes some FAANG and startups, but in reality this is a minority, like top 10% of MIT grads, rest are in the $80k to $100k range, just like other CS grads from state schools, may be they get $10K more, or like another poster said the state school candidate get $10k more if they have additional skill sets & certification.

Oh well, the DCUM bandwagon of misinformation rolls on

You are spreading misinformation yourself. The survey is for all MIT graduates, not just EECS. We don't know how many EECS went into consulting. I see BCG and McKinsey are listed for EECS. But your run-of-the-mill system integrator consulting, like BAH is not listed.

This thread is about CS, and the salary split is clearly for specific majors, within that sub-classifications. Get a grip, and learn to read. MIT grads who go into IT consulting make $82k on average. Oh wow BCH and McKinsey are what? BAH is run of the mill. Clearly, you got no clue on Tech or Consulting, you must be a DC lawyer or lobbyist. The most clueless lot.

Stop acting like an idiot. You're becoming a laughing stock.

+1

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For MIT grads, their stats in Computer Software are low $60,000 to high $160,000 with the bonus mean of $30,345. Their tops didn't hit $400,000 - at least not in 2018. Of course, this doesn't prevent $400,000, or a pie in the sky, in any other year.

https://capd.mit.edu/sites/default/files/about/files/OutcomeSurvey2018Final.pdf

MIT CS salaries for Consulting jobs are in the $80K range, quite a departure from the $115 someone quoted earlier. That was for Software Engineering & Gaming jobs which includes some FAANG and startups, but in reality this is a minority, like top 10% of MIT grads, rest are in the $80k to $100k range, just like other CS grads from state schools, may be they get $10K more, or like another poster said the state school candidate get $10k more if they have additional skill sets & certification.

Oh well, the DCUM bandwagon of misinformation rolls on

You are spreading misinformation yourself. The survey is for all MIT graduates, not just EECS. We don't know how many EECS went into consulting. I see BCG and McKinsey are listed for EECS. But your run-of-the-mill system integrator consulting, like BAH is not listed.

This thread is about CS, and the salary split is clearly for specific majors, within that sub-classifications. Get a grip, and learn to read. MIT grads who go into IT consulting make $82k on average. Oh wow BCH and McKinsey are what? BAH is run of the mill. Clearly, you got no clue on Tech or Consulting, you must be a DC lawyer or lobbyist. The most clueless lot.

Funny, if CS is all about technical knowledge that any state university can provide, why aren't community college IT graduates rising to the top? How about the code monkeys who graduated from coding bootcamps? When can we expect them to become CEOs of FAANG?

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Anonymous wrote:Just looked up the stats for the current CMU SCS freshman class.

Middle 50% SAT: 1570-1580 (770-780V, 800-800M).

Holy Crap.

That’s with ~50/50 gender balance. It’d likely be even higher without that.

Lol, it can’t really get much higher.