Top 100 undergrad CS by US News

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

I'm assuming your VT kid was among the top 10% of his class and your CMU kid was in the bottom 50% to have outcomes like this. It's also possible that the IBM kid chose the IBM job because it aligned more closely with his interests (e.g. quantum computing).

NO. My CMU kid was among the top 30% of his class. My VT kid was among the top 25% of his class. My CMU kid just realized that he could get a good education from VT with no debt instead of CMU with debt. 50K student debt is a lot of money.

VT salary outcome in CS: 25th percentile: $80000 Median: $90000 75th percentile: $110000
https://fds.career.vt.edu/Salary/Details?cohort=2019-2020&dispmajor=Y


CMU salary outcome in CS: Average $116,526 Median $115,000 Range: $26K-$200,000K
https://www.cmu.edu/career/about-us/salaries-and-destinations/post-grad-dashboard-updated.html

Only $90,000 at Virginia Tech? Oh woe is me! Those poor graduates, forced to subsist on food stamps.

No one is looking down on VT grads.
That said, the median income difference between VT and CMU is $21,500 per year. That’s enough for the CMU grad to pay off the $50,000 student loan in a matter of 2-3 years. The difference in income can continue throughout the working life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

I'm assuming your VT kid was among the top 10% of his class and your CMU kid was in the bottom 50% to have outcomes like this. It's also possible that the IBM kid chose the IBM job because it aligned more closely with his interests (e.g. quantum computing).

NO. My CMU kid was among the top 30% of his class. My VT kid was among the top 25% of his class. My CMU kid just realized that he could get a good education from VT with no debt instead of CMU with debt. 50K student debt is a lot of money.

If your CMU kid was indeed among the top 30% of his class, he should have better offers if he wanted them. You can't blame the school. All the high paying CS employers recruit at CMU. Many of them don't recruit at VT.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

Anecdote doesn’t mean anything even if you weren’t lying. No one in their right would believe VT is in the same league as CMU for CS. Neither does the data support that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

Anecdote doesn’t mean anything even if you weren’t lying. No one in their right would believe VT is in the same league as CMU for CS. Neither does the data support that.

Real Moms of DC: Prestige Hunters making the overnight rounds, I see.

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Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

Anecdote doesn’t mean anything even if you weren’t lying. No one in their right would believe VT is in the same league as CMU for CS. Neither does the data support that.

Real Moms of DC: Prestige Hunters making the overnight rounds, I see.

I am not the PP of any of this.

Having a job with a better salary, a more interesting set of work, a more successful company, a bigger path for growth in your career are all things that everyone looks for in a job. I do not have a link, but it is known that having a lower starting salary has long term repercussions on salary growth. So finding a good first job out of school is what we all want for our kids. If you want to call that “prestige hunter “ then I guess that I’m guilty as charged. I want the best for my kids and so do most parents. I don’t consider that being a snob, I consider that being a supportive parent.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

Anecdote doesn’t mean anything even if you weren’t lying. No one in their right would believe VT is in the same league as CMU for CS. Neither does the data support that.

Real Moms of DC: Prestige Hunters making the overnight rounds, I see.

Sounds like PP lost out in her prestige hunt and settled for Podunk U.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have twin boys and both just graduated in CS, one from CMU and the other from VT. The CMU graduate is working for IBM with a salary of 95K/yr while the VT is working for Amazon with a salary of 125K/yr. The VT son has no student loan debt while the CMU son has 50K in student debt.

CMU might be good for some people but certainly not my kid.

Anecdote doesn’t mean anything even if you weren’t lying. No one in their right would believe VT is in the same league as CMU for CS. Neither does the data support that.

Real Moms of DC: Prestige Hunters making the overnight rounds, I see.

Sounds like PP lost out in her prestige hunt and settled for Podunk U.

Are you saying making $125k out of Virginia Tech is Podunk U? The crazy DCUM attracts.

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What other rankings lists may be potentially helpful for identifying strong CS programs for undergraduates? I’m not in the field (but DC plans to major in CS) so I’m trying to get a feel for what’s where.

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At this point, virtually every school has a CS program of some sort.

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Anonymous wrote:What other rankings lists may be potentially helpful for identifying strong CS programs for undergraduates? I’m not in the field (but DC plans to major in CS) so I’m trying to get a feel for what’s where.

Times Higher Education. Source for WSJ college rankings.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2021/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/locations/US/subjects/3081/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

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OP,
Would appreciate 2022 stats....

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A little bit more meaningful ranking

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

1 Carnegie Mellon University
2 University of California, Berkeley
3 University of Southern California
4 Georgia Institute of Technology
5 University of Washington
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
7 Stanford University
8 University of Waterloo
9 University of California, San Diego
10 University of California, Los Angeles
11 University of Michigan
12 Columbia University
13 Cornell University
14 University of Texas at Austin
15 Northeastern University
16 Purdue University
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine
19 New York University
20 University of Toronto
21 University of Pennsylvania
22 San Jose State University
23 University of British Columbia
24 Duke University
25 University of Maryland
26 University of California, Davis
27 Brown University
28 Harvard University
29 University of Virginia
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison

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Anonymous wrote:It's under a paywall so you're welcome.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/ccomputer-science-overall
Any Surprises?!

#1:

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
#2:

Carnegie Mellon University
Stanford University
University of California--Berkeley
#5:

California Institute of Technology
University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
University of Washington
Princeton University
Cornell University
Georgia Institute of Technology
#11:

University of Texas--Austin
#12:

University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
#13:

Columbia University
Harvard University
University of California--Los Angeles
#16:

University of California--San Diego
University of Maryland--College Park
University of Pennsylvania
University of Wisconsin--Madison
#20:

Harvey Mudd College
Johns Hopkins University
Purdue University--West Lafayette
Rice University
Yale University
#25:

Brown University
Duke University
Northwestern University
University of California--Irvine
University of Chicago
University of Southern California
#31:

University of Colorado--Boulder
University of Massachusetts--Amherst
University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill
University of Virginia
Virginia Tech
#36:

New York University
Texas A&M University--College Station
University of California--Davis
University of California--Santa Barbara
University of Minnesota--Twin Cities
#41:

Dartmouth College
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey--New Brunswick
Northeastern University
Ohio State University
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Vanderbilt University
Washington University in St. Louis
#48:

Pennsylvania State University--University Park
Stony Brook University--SUNY
University of Utah
University of Florida
#52:

Michigan State University
North Carolina State University
Rochester Institute of Technology
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
University of Arizona
University of California--Riverside
University of California--Santa Cruz
University of Notre Dame
University of Pittsburgh
#61:

Arizona State University
Boston University
Indiana University--Bloomington
Iowa State University
Tufts University
University at Buffalo--SUNY
University of Rochester
#68:

Colorado School of Mines
Georgetown University
William & Mary
#71:

Case Western Reserve University
Clemson University
Emory University
George Mason University
George Washington University
Oregon State University
Pomona College
Stevens Institute of Technology
Syracuse University
United States Military Academy
United States Naval Academy
University of Central Florida
University of Illinois--Chicago
University of Iowa
University of Tennessee--Knoxville
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
#87:

Auburn University
California Polytechnic State University--San Luis Obispo
Colorado State University
Drexel University
United States Air Force Academy
University of Connecticut
University of Kansas
University of Oregon
University of Texas--Dallas
#96:

Boston College
Michigan Technological University
University of Alabama
University of Delaware
University of Maryland--Baltimore County
University of Nebraska--Lincoln
University of Texas--Arlington
Washington State University
​

Hope this helps out the rising seniors starting work on their college lists.

Pomona is lower than I thought considering where it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's under a paywall so you're welcome.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/ccomputer-science-overall
Any Surprises?!

#1:

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
#2:

Carnegie Mellon University
Stanford University
University of California--Berkeley
#5:

California Institute of Technology
University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
University of Washington
Princeton University
Cornell University
Georgia Institute of Technology
#11:

University of Texas--Austin
#12:

University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
#13:

Columbia University
Harvard University
University of California--Los Angeles
#16:

University of California--San Diego
University of Maryland--College Park
University of Pennsylvania
University of Wisconsin--Madison
#20:

Harvey Mudd College
Johns Hopkins University
Purdue University--West Lafayette
Rice University
Yale University
#25:

Brown University
Duke University
Northwestern University
University of California--Irvine
University of Chicago
University of Southern California
#31:

University of Colorado--Boulder
University of Massachusetts--Amherst
University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill
University of Virginia
Virginia Tech
#36:

New York University
Texas A&M University--College Station
University of California--Davis
University of California--Santa Barbara
University of Minnesota--Twin Cities
#41:

Dartmouth College
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey--New Brunswick
Northeastern University
Ohio State University
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Vanderbilt University
Washington University in St. Louis
#48:

Pennsylvania State University--University Park
Stony Brook University--SUNY
University of Utah
University of Florida
#52:

Michigan State University
North Carolina State University
Rochester Institute of Technology
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
University of Arizona
University of California--Riverside
University of California--Santa Cruz
University of Notre Dame
University of Pittsburgh
#61:

Arizona State University
Boston University
Indiana University--Bloomington
Iowa State University
Tufts University
University at Buffalo--SUNY
University of Rochester
#68:

Colorado School of Mines
Georgetown University
William & Mary
#71:

Case Western Reserve University
Clemson University
Emory University
George Mason University
George Washington University
Oregon State University
Pomona College
Stevens Institute of Technology
Syracuse University
United States Military Academy
United States Naval Academy
University of Central Florida
University of Illinois--Chicago
University of Iowa
University of Tennessee--Knoxville
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
#87:

Auburn University
California Polytechnic State University--San Luis Obispo
Colorado State University
Drexel University
United States Air Force Academy
University of Connecticut
University of Kansas
University of Oregon
University of Texas--Dallas
#96:

Boston College
Michigan Technological University
University of Alabama
University of Delaware
University of Maryland--Baltimore County
University of Nebraska--Lincoln
University of Texas--Arlington
Washington State University
​

Hope this helps out the rising seniors starting work on their college lists.

Pomona is lower than I thought considering where it is.

Pomona is overrated.