What’s up with parents not wearing masks at the playground?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All you people who are still wearing masks after being vaccinated are holding back society. Be free! Science doesn’t support you wearing a mask after being vaccinated. Wake up.

that's NOT true - the CDC recommends that those vaccinated fully continue to wear masks and practice social distancing when with people who are not vaccinated. Because we (I'm vaccinated fully) can still spread covid to others they think - they are studying this so this might change but at this time, haven't you seen the "I'm fully vaccinated but I still wear a mask and socially distance" ads?

CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html

when with fully vaccinated people, you may go mask-free. with unvaccinated people, keep mask on. (and more but this is about masks)

This is not accurate -- they don't really "think" vaccinated people can still spread covid; it's just that because the vaccines are so new, they don't yet KNOW that it prevents spread. But they very much EXPECT that it DOES prevent spread because that is true for basically all the similar vaccines out there.

They actually do know it prevents spread. 94% effective. And not concerned about asymptomatic cases in vaccinated people..because guess what? Asymptomatic spread isn’t a thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

It’s pretty darn close to zero in the scenarios described in this thread. Like the 538 article said, whatever portion of that 6% was completely outdoors, was in very crowded environments - markets and rallies. Not on the sidewalk, not at the playground.

No one here is saying masks indoors are unnecessary.

Combine that with the fact that kids are less infectious than adults..you know, the reason school is safe for kids? Sorry, I forgot the masks make it safe. Unfortunately, teachers spread Covid to each other because they couldn’t mask properly unlike the children in their classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

Reading comprehension is not your strength?

These families should absolutely wear masks on the playground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

Reading comprehension is not your strength?

These families should absolutely wear masks on the playground.

If you think about outdoor mask mandates in absolute terms, nuance is not your strength.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

Reading comprehension is not your strength?

These families should absolutely wear masks on the playground.

If you think about outdoor mask mandates in absolute terms, nuance is not your strength.

Huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Next time I’ll wave to you OP! I’m definitely a maskless mom at the playground. I know you find this shocking but it has absolutely nothing to do with you.

NP. I do not give a damn if you and everyone of your entire family get covid and die but you have no right to endanger the lives of anyone else!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

It's so bizarre. I think wearing masks outside is nothing more than pandemic theatre. But, if that's what you want to do, knock yourself out. Just don't expect me to go along with your nonsense.

I don't wear a mask outside, and don't make my kids wear one, either, even at the playground. No one's ever said anything about it. And we live in NW DC, the belly of the "Thank You, Dr. Fauci" beast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time I’ll wave to you OP! I’m definitely a maskless mom at the playground. I know you find this shocking but it has absolutely nothing to do with you.

NP. I do not give a damn if you and everyone of your entire family get covid and die but you have no right to endanger the lives of anyone else!

I'd recommend you get some therapy and/or medication for your untreated anxiety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

Reading comprehension is not your strength?

These families should absolutely wear masks on the playground.

If huddled up in the pack, sure. Sitting 10+’ft away outside, forget about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

It's so bizarre. I think wearing masks outside is nothing more than pandemic theatre. But, if that's what you want to do, knock yourself out. Just don't expect me to go along with your nonsense.

I don't wear a mask outside, and don't make my kids wear one, either, even at the playground. No one's ever said anything about it. And we live in NW DC, the belly of the "Thank You, Dr. Fauci" beast.

Of course no one says anything. Why engage stupid, you might be unstable as well. We just leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time I’ll wave to you OP! I’m definitely a maskless mom at the playground. I know you find this shocking but it has absolutely nothing to do with you.

NP. I do not give a damn if you and everyone of your entire family get covid and die but you have no right to endanger the lives of anyone else!

Are you...familiar with how correlated with age the outcomes on this are? The death ratios for 5-17 year-olds are 1/7,900 that of 85+ year-olds. Children without health conditions have basically zero risk of dying. Even for young and middle-aged adults, it's very low. If you're old or sick enough that your life is at risk in any substantive way, I have good news for you about vaccine availability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

Reading comprehension is not your strength?

These families should absolutely wear masks on the playground.

If huddled up in the pack, sure. Sitting 10+’ft away outside, forget about it.

As long as you and your kids are not near mine, you do as you please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time I’ll wave to you OP! I’m definitely a maskless mom at the playground. I know you find this shocking but it has absolutely nothing to do with you.

NP. I do not give a damn if you and everyone of your entire family get covid and die but you have no right to endanger the lives of anyone else!

Are you...familiar with how correlated with age the outcomes on this are? The death ratios for 5-17 year-olds are 1/7,900 that of 85+ year-olds. Children without health conditions have basically zero risk of dying. Even for young and middle-aged adults, it's very low. If you're old or sick enough that your life is at risk in any substantive way, I have good news for you about vaccine availability.

I have bad news: it’s not just about dying. A year into pandemic and you still don’t get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

Actually this is factually not accurate. 6% of cases are outdoor transmission. In one case, for instance, two people talked for 15 min outdoors. So if you’re doing things for longer with people and downwind you can absolutely have a risk of transmission. Also depends on whether that person is a super spreader.

I assume you got your 6% from the database discussed in this 538 article. Read more carefully, the 6% was out doors or PARTIALLY outdoors. So it’s like people throwing around the rose garden super spreader party as an example of outdoor transmission, even though a portion of the event was indoors. The outdoor transmission the database did find was at busy markets and rallies. If you’ve ever been to a market in China, you probably know it’s way more crowded than a playground in the DMV.

“For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-summer-of-covid-19-taught-scientists-about-indoor-vs-outdoor-transmission/

The data does seem to suggest that it is much less likely that you will contract Covid outdoors. However, it is not zero either, as some PPs on this and other threads would like to suggest. Being outside is not a magic bullet, it is just much much better. Proximity and time of close proximity are the other factors.

In some circumstance, masks outdoors are still a good idea. In other circumstances, people going without them should not cause great upset. Indoors, however, put your damn mask on.

At the end of the day, people have lots of reasons why they might have their mask on outdoors and they are not obliged to share them with you.

+100
Well said.

But you realize the topic of this thread is someone complaining about maskless families outdoors. Mask up outside if you want.

It's so bizarre. I think wearing masks outside is nothing more than pandemic theatre. But, if that's what you want to do, knock yourself out. Just don't expect me to go along with your nonsense.

I don't wear a mask outside, and don't make my kids wear one, either, even at the playground. No one's ever said anything about it. And we live in NW DC, the belly of the "Thank You, Dr. Fauci" beast.

Of course no one says anything. Why engage stupid, you might be unstable as well. We just leave.

Well, guess that works out perfectly for everyone. You leave, and my kids get to keep playing.