Discrimination against Asians

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Listen to the Black mother speaking at 5:30 in this APS Board meeting, also asking for changes at TJ.

https://www.apsva.us/post/school-board-meeting-august-20-2020/

The Asian posters claiming URMs are not advocating for change at TJ are either unaware of the facts or purposefully misrepresenting them. Do better.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

The new lottery system will advantage Whites. Come back with detailed analysis. This is what STEM is about.

Nice deflection but it doesn't change the fact that you or PP lied when you claimed URMs were not supporting change to TJ admissions.

And given how beaten down they've been by FCPS over the years through constant rejections it's a miracle as many will speak out as are doing now.

Are you URM? Can you link me a post from URM parents who are vocal for this lottery? I really like to see URM parents' perspective, not Karens whose kids can't compete. And thank you for turning Fairfax Asians from reliable democrats to voting republicans in November.

Several links have been posted. You could go back and listen to testimony before the FCPS School Board from the spring and summer for more examples.

It's also been pointed out that the fervor of the threads here appears to be driven in large part by local Republicans trying to use this as a wedge issue. It's what they always do come election season (last year it was school boundaries, and the year before that it was the FLE curriculum) and it never gets much traction. Opposition to a TJ lottery won't move the needle in any meaningful way in national or state contests or in local Congressional races, and the only local elections in Fairfax County this year are the Herndon Mayor and Town Council races. But I guess you can keep trying.

I am not a Republican and have voted for Ryan McElveen, John Fauss and many other democrats in the past. I will be voting for Republicans in a few weeks which I guess turns me into a Republican. You are right it won't make a difference. But there are only two ways to right this wrong -- make your voice heard in November and a lawsuit -- that's the American way.

You are not an URM and failed to produce real URM parents' advocacy for a lottery. I have no need to watch professional politicians' speech.

I am a lifelong Democrat but voting for Republicans all the way this time. Enough with identity politics.

LOL. The Republican Party is basically a white supremacist party at this point.

You are either a bot or a masochist, but go right ahead. No one cares what you do, or if your kid doesn't get into TJ because an equally deserving child gets a slot.

I am also making it my mission to convince as many of my friends and relatives to vote Republican this time and next time around for all offices local, state and federal using the actions of fcps regarding TJ and the postings on this board as the basis.

I also am a lifelong Democrat, but this issue has really made me look within and realize that communism is right around the bend if the Democrats win. I'm voting Republican all the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen to the Black mother speaking at 5:30 in this APS Board meeting, also asking for changes at TJ.

https://www.apsva.us/post/school-board-meeting-august-20-2020/

The Asian posters claiming URMs are not advocating for change at TJ are either unaware of the facts or purposefully misrepresenting them. Do better.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

The new lottery system will advantage Whites. Come back with detailed analysis. This is what STEM is about.

Nice deflection but it doesn't change the fact that you or PP lied when you claimed URMs were not supporting change to TJ admissions.

And given how beaten down they've been by FCPS over the years through constant rejections it's a miracle as many will speak out as are doing now.

Are you URM? Can you link me a post from URM parents who are vocal for this lottery? I really like to see URM parents' perspective, not Karens whose kids can't compete. And thank you for turning Fairfax Asians from reliable democrats to voting republicans in November.

Several links have been posted. You could go back and listen to testimony before the FCPS School Board from the spring and summer for more examples.

It's also been pointed out that the fervor of the threads here appears to be driven in large part by local Republicans trying to use this as a wedge issue. It's what they always do come election season (last year it was school boundaries, and the year before that it was the FLE curriculum) and it never gets much traction. Opposition to a TJ lottery won't move the needle in any meaningful way in national or state contests or in local Congressional races, and the only local elections in Fairfax County this year are the Herndon Mayor and Town Council races. But I guess you can keep trying.

I am not a Republican and have voted for Ryan McElveen, John Fauss and many other democrats in the past. I will be voting for Republicans in a few weeks which I guess turns me into a Republican. You are right it won't make a difference. But there are only two ways to right this wrong -- make your voice heard in November and a lawsuit -- that's the American way.

You are not an URM and failed to produce real URM parents' advocacy for a lottery. I have no need to watch professional politicians' speech.

I am a lifelong Democrat but voting for Republicans all the way this time. Enough with identity politics.

+1

If enough of us flip in November, that might just make a difference. I think our numbers will grow.

you're voting for a party running on a platform of not growing your numbers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

What is happening before the lottery? You are using the word discrimination in very general terms. I am using discrimination as in systematic discrimination of one privileged class over a minority in society.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

"Assuming that all of the students who qualify for the lottery will apply for admissions to TJ. the percentage of Asian students gaining admission to TJ will be slashed by more than half from 73% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 33.52%. In contrast, the percentage of white students gaining admission to TJ will more than double from 18% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 44.88%, making white families the plan’s greatest beneficiaries and dramatically shrinking the school’s overall percentage of minorities."

This is racial cleansing of an institution. I am all for bigger URM representation. What is alarming is that people like you who fall into believing that a lottery system will achieve a goal that is worthy, but is more likely than not achievable. Anything with a random component, unless all dimensions are random (location, resources, interest in STEM, etc.), is bound to be more beneficial to the privileged. And Whites are the most privileged demographic on earth. That is why the lottery (and the above analysis) points to a perpetuation of the same social dynamic that has been here for ages.

Do a more targeted policy. In companies around the world now, people are getting assessed for Diversity and Inclusion. Have a classes on D&I. Make students get grades. Just like community service, give them a credit for hours helping URMs. Get extra credit for tutoring middle school URMs to get into TJ. If they get in, give them an A. They will make friends. It will be better for social cohesion. URMs will more likely come to TJ. I bet the Asian folks will be competing like mad to make this a reality and it will also look wonderful in college admissions.

Do not believe in this sham of a lottery policy. Systematic discrimination occurs when people do not even realize they are a part of it. Do not support the lottery.

+1. I like this idea.

Yes, targeted incentive-based policies are better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen to the Black mother speaking at 5:30 in this APS Board meeting, also asking for changes at TJ.

https://www.apsva.us/post/school-board-meeting-august-20-2020/

The Asian posters claiming URMs are not advocating for change at TJ are either unaware of the facts or purposefully misrepresenting them. Do better.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

The new lottery system will advantage Whites. Come back with detailed analysis. This is what STEM is about.

Nice deflection but it doesn't change the fact that you or PP lied when you claimed URMs were not supporting change to TJ admissions.

And given how beaten down they've been by FCPS over the years through constant rejections it's a miracle as many will speak out as are doing now.

Are you URM? Can you link me a post from URM parents who are vocal for this lottery? I really like to see URM parents' perspective, not Karens whose kids can't compete. And thank you for turning Fairfax Asians from reliable democrats to voting republicans in November.

Several links have been posted. You could go back and listen to testimony before the FCPS School Board from the spring and summer for more examples.

It's also been pointed out that the fervor of the threads here appears to be driven in large part by local Republicans trying to use this as a wedge issue. It's what they always do come election season (last year it was school boundaries, and the year before that it was the FLE curriculum) and it never gets much traction. Opposition to a TJ lottery won't move the needle in any meaningful way in national or state contests or in local Congressional races, and the only local elections in Fairfax County this year are the Herndon Mayor and Town Council races. But I guess you can keep trying.

I am not a Republican and have voted for Ryan McElveen, John Fauss and many other democrats in the past. I will be voting for Republicans in a few weeks which I guess turns me into a Republican. You are right it won't make a difference. But there are only two ways to right this wrong -- make your voice heard in November and a lawsuit -- that's the American way.

You are not an URM and failed to produce real URM parents' advocacy for a lottery. I have no need to watch professional politicians' speech.

I am a lifelong Democrat but voting for Republicans all the way this time. Enough with identity politics.

+1

If enough of us flip in November, that might just make a difference. I think our numbers will grow.

you're voting for a party running on a platform of not growing your numbers

That’s ok. It doesn’t matter since I am so upset by fcps and the posts on this board. This board turned me into a single issue crusader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What is happening before the lottery? You are using the word discrimination in very general terms. I am using discrimination as in systematic discrimination of one privileged class over a minority in society.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

"Assuming that all of the students who qualify for the lottery will apply for admissions to TJ. the percentage of Asian students gaining admission to TJ will be slashed by more than half from 73% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 33.52%. In contrast, the percentage of white students gaining admission to TJ will more than double from 18% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 44.88%, making white families the plan’s greatest beneficiaries and dramatically shrinking the school’s overall percentage of minorities."

This is racial cleansing of an institution. I am all for bigger URM representation. What is alarming is that people like you who fall into believing that a lottery system will achieve a goal that is worthy, but is more likely than not achievable. Anything with a random component, unless all dimensions are random (location, resources, interest in STEM, etc.), is bound to be more beneficial to the privileged. And Whites are the most privileged demographic on earth. That is why the lottery (and the above analysis) points to a perpetuation of the same social dynamic that has been here for ages.

Do a more targeted policy. In companies around the world now, people are getting assessed for Diversity and Inclusion. Have a classes on D&I. Make students get grades. Just like community service, give them a credit for hours helping URMs. Get extra credit for tutoring middle school URMs to get into TJ. If they get in, give them an A. They will make friends. It will be better for social cohesion. URMs will more likely come to TJ. I bet the Asian folks will be competing like mad to make this a reality and it will also look wonderful in college admissions.

Do not believe in this sham of a lottery policy. Systematic discrimination occurs when people do not even realize they are a part of it. Do not support the lottery.

+1. I like this idea.

Yes, targeted incentive-based policies are better.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen to the Black mother speaking at 5:30 in this APS Board meeting, also asking for changes at TJ.

https://www.apsva.us/post/school-board-meeting-august-20-2020/

The Asian posters claiming URMs are not advocating for change at TJ are either unaware of the facts or purposefully misrepresenting them. Do better.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

The new lottery system will advantage Whites. Come back with detailed analysis. This is what STEM is about.

Nice deflection but it doesn't change the fact that you or PP lied when you claimed URMs were not supporting change to TJ admissions.

And given how beaten down they've been by FCPS over the years through constant rejections it's a miracle as many will speak out as are doing now.

Are you URM? Can you link me a post from URM parents who are vocal for this lottery? I really like to see URM parents' perspective, not Karens whose kids can't compete. And thank you for turning Fairfax Asians from reliable democrats to voting republicans in November.

Several links have been posted. You could go back and listen to testimony before the FCPS School Board from the spring and summer for more examples.

It's also been pointed out that the fervor of the threads here appears to be driven in large part by local Republicans trying to use this as a wedge issue. It's what they always do come election season (last year it was school boundaries, and the year before that it was the FLE curriculum) and it never gets much traction. Opposition to a TJ lottery won't move the needle in any meaningful way in national or state contests or in local Congressional races, and the only local elections in Fairfax County this year are the Herndon Mayor and Town Council races. But I guess you can keep trying.

I am not a Republican and have voted for Ryan McElveen, John Fauss and many other democrats in the past. I will be voting for Republicans in a few weeks which I guess turns me into a Republican. You are right it won't make a difference. But there are only two ways to right this wrong -- make your voice heard in November and a lawsuit -- that's the American way.

You are not an URM and failed to produce real URM parents' advocacy for a lottery. I have no need to watch professional politicians' speech.

I am a lifelong Democrat but voting for Republicans all the way this time. Enough with identity politics.

+1

If enough of us flip in November, that might just make a difference. I think our numbers will grow.

you're voting for a party running on a platform of not growing your numbers

I am not a big fan of R but I am very offended by the secretary of Virginia DOE and his democratic enablers in FCPS. This proposal showed their true colors. I am voting against that party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen to the Black mother speaking at 5:30 in this APS Board meeting, also asking for changes at TJ.

https://www.apsva.us/post/school-board-meeting-august-20-2020/

The Asian posters claiming URMs are not advocating for change at TJ are either unaware of the facts or purposefully misrepresenting them. Do better.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

The new lottery system will advantage Whites. Come back with detailed analysis. This is what STEM is about.

Nice deflection but it doesn't change the fact that you or PP lied when you claimed URMs were not supporting change to TJ admissions.

And given how beaten down they've been by FCPS over the years through constant rejections it's a miracle as many will speak out as are doing now.

Are you URM? Can you link me a post from URM parents who are vocal for this lottery? I really like to see URM parents' perspective, not Karens whose kids can't compete. And thank you for turning Fairfax Asians from reliable democrats to voting republicans in November.

Several links have been posted. You could go back and listen to testimony before the FCPS School Board from the spring and summer for more examples.

It's also been pointed out that the fervor of the threads here appears to be driven in large part by local Republicans trying to use this as a wedge issue. It's what they always do come election season (last year it was school boundaries, and the year before that it was the FLE curriculum) and it never gets much traction. Opposition to a TJ lottery won't move the needle in any meaningful way in national or state contests or in local Congressional races, and the only local elections in Fairfax County this year are the Herndon Mayor and Town Council races. But I guess you can keep trying.

I am not a Republican and have voted for Ryan McElveen, John Fauss and many other democrats in the past. I will be voting for Republicans in a few weeks which I guess turns me into a Republican. You are right it won't make a difference. But there are only two ways to right this wrong -- make your voice heard in November and a lawsuit -- that's the American way.

You are not an URM and failed to produce real URM parents' advocacy for a lottery. I have no need to watch professional politicians' speech.

I am a lifelong Democrat but voting for Republicans all the way this time. Enough with identity politics.

+1

If enough of us flip in November, that might just make a difference. I think our numbers will grow.

you're voting for a party running on a platform of not growing your numbers

I am not a big fan of R but I am very offended by the secretary of Virginia DOE and his democratic enablers in FCPS. This proposal showed their true colors. I am voting against that party.

Yes spread the word to your friends and relatives as well including all Asians you know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen to the Black mother speaking at 5:30 in this APS Board meeting, also asking for changes at TJ.

https://www.apsva.us/post/school-board-meeting-august-20-2020/

The Asian posters claiming URMs are not advocating for change at TJ are either unaware of the facts or purposefully misrepresenting them. Do better.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

The new lottery system will advantage Whites. Come back with detailed analysis. This is what STEM is about.

Nice deflection but it doesn't change the fact that you or PP lied when you claimed URMs were not supporting change to TJ admissions.

And given how beaten down they've been by FCPS over the years through constant rejections it's a miracle as many will speak out as are doing now.

Are you URM? Can you link me a post from URM parents who are vocal for this lottery? I really like to see URM parents' perspective, not Karens whose kids can't compete. And thank you for turning Fairfax Asians from reliable democrats to voting republicans in November.

Several links have been posted. You could go back and listen to testimony before the FCPS School Board from the spring and summer for more examples.

It's also been pointed out that the fervor of the threads here appears to be driven in large part by local Republicans trying to use this as a wedge issue. It's what they always do come election season (last year it was school boundaries, and the year before that it was the FLE curriculum) and it never gets much traction. Opposition to a TJ lottery won't move the needle in any meaningful way in national or state contests or in local Congressional races, and the only local elections in Fairfax County this year are the Herndon Mayor and Town Council races. But I guess you can keep trying.

I am not a Republican and have voted for Ryan McElveen, John Fauss and many other democrats in the past. I will be voting for Republicans in a few weeks which I guess turns me into a Republican. You are right it won't make a difference. But there are only two ways to right this wrong -- make your voice heard in November and a lawsuit -- that's the American way.

You are not an URM and failed to produce real URM parents' advocacy for a lottery. I have no need to watch professional politicians' speech.

I am a lifelong Democrat but voting for Republicans all the way this time. Enough with identity politics.

+1

If enough of us flip in November, that might just make a difference. I think our numbers will grow.

you're voting for a party running on a platform of not growing your numbers

That’s ok. It doesn’t matter since I am so upset by fcps and the posts on this board. This board turned me into a single issue crusader.

Too bad there's no one on the ballot this fall responsible for how a local high school is run.

And one doesn't need to remind Asians how people in your new party continue to refer to Covid-19.

Have fun!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen to the Black mother speaking at 5:30 in this APS Board meeting, also asking for changes at TJ.

https://www.apsva.us/post/school-board-meeting-august-20-2020/

The Asian posters claiming URMs are not advocating for change at TJ are either unaware of the facts or purposefully misrepresenting them. Do better.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

The new lottery system will advantage Whites. Come back with detailed analysis. This is what STEM is about.

Nice deflection but it doesn't change the fact that you or PP lied when you claimed URMs were not supporting change to TJ admissions.

And given how beaten down they've been by FCPS over the years through constant rejections it's a miracle as many will speak out as are doing now.

Are you URM? Can you link me a post from URM parents who are vocal for this lottery? I really like to see URM parents' perspective, not Karens whose kids can't compete. And thank you for turning Fairfax Asians from reliable democrats to voting republicans in November.

Several links have been posted. You could go back and listen to testimony before the FCPS School Board from the spring and summer for more examples.

It's also been pointed out that the fervor of the threads here appears to be driven in large part by local Republicans trying to use this as a wedge issue. It's what they always do come election season (last year it was school boundaries, and the year before that it was the FLE curriculum) and it never gets much traction. Opposition to a TJ lottery won't move the needle in any meaningful way in national or state contests or in local Congressional races, and the only local elections in Fairfax County this year are the Herndon Mayor and Town Council races. But I guess you can keep trying.

I am not a Republican and have voted for Ryan McElveen, John Fauss and many other democrats in the past. I will be voting for Republicans in a few weeks which I guess turns me into a Republican. You are right it won't make a difference. But there are only two ways to right this wrong -- make your voice heard in November and a lawsuit -- that's the American way.

You are not an URM and failed to produce real URM parents' advocacy for a lottery. I have no need to watch professional politicians' speech.

I am a lifelong Democrat but voting for Republicans all the way this time. Enough with identity politics.

+1

If enough of us flip in November, that might just make a difference. I think our numbers will grow.

you're voting for a party running on a platform of not growing your numbers

I am not a big fan of R but I am very offended by the secretary of Virginia DOE and his democratic enablers in FCPS. This proposal showed their true colors. I am voting against that party.

Yes spread the word to your friends and relatives as well including all Asians you know.

She can just send a link to the AAP page in dcum. Dcum is about become more well known thanks to fcps and VA DoE secretary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What is happening before the lottery? You are using the word discrimination in very general terms. I am using discrimination as in systematic discrimination of one privileged class over a minority in society.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

"Assuming that all of the students who qualify for the lottery will apply for admissions to TJ. the percentage of Asian students gaining admission to TJ will be slashed by more than half from 73% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 33.52%. In contrast, the percentage of white students gaining admission to TJ will more than double from 18% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 44.88%, making white families the plan’s greatest beneficiaries and dramatically shrinking the school’s overall percentage of minorities."

This is racial cleansing of an institution. I am all for bigger URM representation. What is alarming is that people like you who fall into believing that a lottery system will achieve a goal that is worthy, but is more likely than not achievable. Anything with a random component, unless all dimensions are random (location, resources, interest in STEM, etc.), is bound to be more beneficial to the privileged. And Whites are the most privileged demographic on earth. That is why the lottery (and the above analysis) points to a perpetuation of the same social dynamic that has been here for ages.

Do a more targeted policy. In companies around the world now, people are getting assessed for Diversity and Inclusion. Have a classes on D&I. Make students get grades. Just like community service, give them a credit for hours helping URMs. Get extra credit for tutoring middle school URMs to get into TJ. If they get in, give them an A. They will make friends. It will be better for social cohesion. URMs will more likely come to TJ. I bet the Asian folks will be competing like mad to make this a reality and it will also look wonderful in college admissions.

Do not believe in this sham of a lottery policy. Systematic discrimination occurs when people do not even realize they are a part of it. Do not support the lottery.

+1. I like this idea.

Yes, targeted incentive-based policies are better.

+1000

So the new lottery proposal, after more detailed analysis, is projected to decrease Asian percentage at TJ from 73% to 33%. No wonder Asians are angry. Privileged Whites go from 18% to 45% and will be the highest represented demographic at TJ. Ethnic cleansing of an school. This, gentlemen, is racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What is happening before the lottery? You are using the word discrimination in very general terms. I am using discrimination as in systematic discrimination of one privileged class over a minority in society.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

"Assuming that all of the students who qualify for the lottery will apply for admissions to TJ. the percentage of Asian students gaining admission to TJ will be slashed by more than half from 73% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 33.52%. In contrast, the percentage of white students gaining admission to TJ will more than double from 18% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 44.88%, making white families the plan’s greatest beneficiaries and dramatically shrinking the school’s overall percentage of minorities."

This is racial cleansing of an institution. I am all for bigger URM representation. What is alarming is that people like you who fall into believing that a lottery system will achieve a goal that is worthy, but is more likely than not achievable. Anything with a random component, unless all dimensions are random (location, resources, interest in STEM, etc.), is bound to be more beneficial to the privileged. And Whites are the most privileged demographic on earth. That is why the lottery (and the above analysis) points to a perpetuation of the same social dynamic that has been here for ages.

Do a more targeted policy. In companies around the world now, people are getting assessed for Diversity and Inclusion. Have a classes on D&I. Make students get grades. Just like community service, give them a credit for hours helping URMs. Get extra credit for tutoring middle school URMs to get into TJ. If they get in, give them an A. They will make friends. It will be better for social cohesion. URMs will more likely come to TJ. I bet the Asian folks will be competing like mad to make this a reality and it will also look wonderful in college admissions.

Do not believe in this sham of a lottery policy. Systematic discrimination occurs when people do not even realize they are a part of it. Do not support the lottery.

+1. I like this idea.

Yes, targeted incentive-based policies are better.

+1000

So the new lottery proposal, after more detailed analysis, is projected to decrease Asian percentage at TJ from 73% to 33%. No wonder Asians are angry. Privileged Whites go from 18% to 45% and will be the highest represented demographic at TJ. Ethnic cleansing of an school. This, gentlemen, is racism.

Independent citation needed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What is happening before the lottery? You are using the word discrimination in very general terms. I am using discrimination as in systematic discrimination of one privileged class over a minority in society.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

"Assuming that all of the students who qualify for the lottery will apply for admissions to TJ. the percentage of Asian students gaining admission to TJ will be slashed by more than half from 73% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 33.52%. In contrast, the percentage of white students gaining admission to TJ will more than double from 18% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 44.88%, making white families the plan’s greatest beneficiaries and dramatically shrinking the school’s overall percentage of minorities."

This is racial cleansing of an institution. I am all for bigger URM representation. What is alarming is that people like you who fall into believing that a lottery system will achieve a goal that is worthy, but is more likely than not achievable. Anything with a random component, unless all dimensions are random (location, resources, interest in STEM, etc.), is bound to be more beneficial to the privileged. And Whites are the most privileged demographic on earth. That is why the lottery (and the above analysis) points to a perpetuation of the same social dynamic that has been here for ages.

Do a more targeted policy. In companies around the world now, people are getting assessed for Diversity and Inclusion. Have a classes on D&I. Make students get grades. Just like community service, give them a credit for hours helping URMs. Get extra credit for tutoring middle school URMs to get into TJ. If they get in, give them an A. They will make friends. It will be better for social cohesion. URMs will more likely come to TJ. I bet the Asian folks will be competing like mad to make this a reality and it will also look wonderful in college admissions.

Do not believe in this sham of a lottery policy. Systematic discrimination occurs when people do not even realize they are a part of it. Do not support the lottery.

+1. I like this idea.

Yes, targeted incentive-based policies are better.

+1000

So the new lottery proposal, after more detailed analysis, is projected to decrease Asian percentage at TJ from 73% to 33%. No wonder Asians are angry. Privileged Whites go from 18% to 45% and will be the highest represented demographic at TJ. Ethnic cleansing of an school. This, gentlemen, is racism.

Independent citation needed

Data is all here. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17MtkF0_fva32Y8dfvr5ewXhl4zgc62pT5ofn9TsXozg/edit#gid=282450905

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What is happening before the lottery? You are using the word discrimination in very general terms. I am using discrimination as in systematic discrimination of one privileged class over a minority in society.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

"Assuming that all of the students who qualify for the lottery will apply for admissions to TJ. the percentage of Asian students gaining admission to TJ will be slashed by more than half from 73% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 33.52%. In contrast, the percentage of white students gaining admission to TJ will more than double from 18% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 44.88%, making white families the plan’s greatest beneficiaries and dramatically shrinking the school’s overall percentage of minorities."

This is racial cleansing of an institution. I am all for bigger URM representation. What is alarming is that people like you who fall into believing that a lottery system will achieve a goal that is worthy, but is more likely than not achievable. Anything with a random component, unless all dimensions are random (location, resources, interest in STEM, etc.), is bound to be more beneficial to the privileged. And Whites are the most privileged demographic on earth. That is why the lottery (and the above analysis) points to a perpetuation of the same social dynamic that has been here for ages.

Do a more targeted policy. In companies around the world now, people are getting assessed for Diversity and Inclusion. Have a classes on D&I. Make students get grades. Just like community service, give them a credit for hours helping URMs. Get extra credit for tutoring middle school URMs to get into TJ. If they get in, give them an A. They will make friends. It will be better for social cohesion. URMs will more likely come to TJ. I bet the Asian folks will be competing like mad to make this a reality and it will also look wonderful in college admissions.

Do not believe in this sham of a lottery policy. Systematic discrimination occurs when people do not even realize they are a part of it. Do not support the lottery.

+1. I like this idea.

Yes, targeted incentive-based policies are better.

+1000

So the new lottery proposal, after more detailed analysis, is projected to decrease Asian percentage at TJ from 73% to 33%. No wonder Asians are angry. Privileged Whites go from 18% to 45% and will be the highest represented demographic at TJ. Ethnic cleansing of an school. This, gentlemen, is racism.

Whose numbers are these? They are not the numbers in the staff presentation, which showed the Class of 2024 enrollment going from 73% to 54% and the Black/Hispanic enrollment increasing from 4% to 15%.

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What is happening before the lottery? You are using the word discrimination in very general terms. I am using discrimination as in systematic discrimination of one privileged class over a minority in society.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

"Assuming that all of the students who qualify for the lottery will apply for admissions to TJ. the percentage of Asian students gaining admission to TJ will be slashed by more than half from 73% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 33.52%. In contrast, the percentage of white students gaining admission to TJ will more than double from 18% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 44.88%, making white families the plan’s greatest beneficiaries and dramatically shrinking the school’s overall percentage of minorities."

This is racial cleansing of an institution. I am all for bigger URM representation. What is alarming is that people like you who fall into believing that a lottery system will achieve a goal that is worthy, but is more likely than not achievable. Anything with a random component, unless all dimensions are random (location, resources, interest in STEM, etc.), is bound to be more beneficial to the privileged. And Whites are the most privileged demographic on earth. That is why the lottery (and the above analysis) points to a perpetuation of the same social dynamic that has been here for ages.

Do a more targeted policy. In companies around the world now, people are getting assessed for Diversity and Inclusion. Have a classes on D&I. Make students get grades. Just like community service, give them a credit for hours helping URMs. Get extra credit for tutoring middle school URMs to get into TJ. If they get in, give them an A. They will make friends. It will be better for social cohesion. URMs will more likely come to TJ. I bet the Asian folks will be competing like mad to make this a reality and it will also look wonderful in college admissions.

Do not believe in this sham of a lottery policy. Systematic discrimination occurs when people do not even realize they are a part of it. Do not support the lottery.

+1. I like this idea.

Yes, targeted incentive-based policies are better.

+1000

So the new lottery proposal, after more detailed analysis, is projected to decrease Asian percentage at TJ from 73% to 33%. No wonder Asians are angry. Privileged Whites go from 18% to 45% and will be the highest represented demographic at TJ. Ethnic cleansing of an school. This, gentlemen, is racism.

Whose numbers are these? They are not the numbers in the staff presentation, which showed the Class of 2024 enrollment going from 73% to 54% and the Black/Hispanic enrollment increasing from 4% to 15%.

I looked at the data from the staff presentation. It is a sham with gross generalizations. Again, you are all fooled.

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Anonymous wrote:

What is happening before the lottery? You are using the word discrimination in very general terms. I am using discrimination as in systematic discrimination of one privileged class over a minority in society.

https://asrainvestigates.substack.com/p/breaking-analysis-tj-lottery-would?r=1k5zy

"Assuming that all of the students who qualify for the lottery will apply for admissions to TJ. the percentage of Asian students gaining admission to TJ will be slashed by more than half from 73% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 33.52%. In contrast, the percentage of white students gaining admission to TJ will more than double from 18% admitted in the Class of 2024 to 44.88%, making white families the plan’s greatest beneficiaries and dramatically shrinking the school’s overall percentage of minorities."

This is racial cleansing of an institution. I am all for bigger URM representation. What is alarming is that people like you who fall into believing that a lottery system will achieve a goal that is worthy, but is more likely than not achievable. Anything with a random component, unless all dimensions are random (location, resources, interest in STEM, etc.), is bound to be more beneficial to the privileged. And Whites are the most privileged demographic on earth. That is why the lottery (and the above analysis) points to a perpetuation of the same social dynamic that has been here for ages.

Do a more targeted policy. In companies around the world now, people are getting assessed for Diversity and Inclusion. Have a classes on D&I. Make students get grades. Just like community service, give them a credit for hours helping URMs. Get extra credit for tutoring middle school URMs to get into TJ. If they get in, give them an A. They will make friends. It will be better for social cohesion. URMs will more likely come to TJ. I bet the Asian folks will be competing like mad to make this a reality and it will also look wonderful in college admissions.

Do not believe in this sham of a lottery policy. Systematic discrimination occurs when people do not even realize they are a part of it. Do not support the lottery.

+1. I like this idea.

Yes, targeted incentive-based policies are better.

+1000

So the new lottery proposal, after more detailed analysis, is projected to decrease Asian percentage at TJ from 73% to 33%. No wonder Asians are angry. Privileged Whites go from 18% to 45% and will be the highest represented demographic at TJ. Ethnic cleansing of an school. This, gentlemen, is racism.

Whose numbers are these? They are not the numbers in the staff presentation, which showed the Class of 2024 enrollment going from 73% to 54% and the Black/Hispanic enrollment increasing from 4% to 15%.

I looked at the data from the staff presentation. It is a sham with gross generalizations. Again, you are all fooled.

Would like to see the data underlying the staff presentation too. I doubt they will provide though.