Jen Hatmaker

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Anonymous wrote:Branden Hatmaker posted again with the quote that's something like Fall 7 times get up 8 or whatever it is

Who poses for pictures with prophetic little sayings like that. How many takes does it take to get the ideal shot that captures his contemplative self? It’s just a bit much. What ever the reasons to their split, I do feel for them. But, shit, they are just adding to the drama, gossip, and speculation with the false humility and retrospective.

Pure speculation — but church leaders liked his IG post so we can assume that something egregious with them is probably off the table.

The tone seems like he failed at some sort of sobriety. If so, he has my empathy, sober living is hard and this evangelical wine mom culture makes drinking a personality trait. If he has a disease and is being cast off by his family, that would break anyone.

But doesn’t explain the kids all turning against him and changing their names. I’m thinking it is an affair and some sort of addiction.

Oh, that's interesting. I think we can rule out an affair with someone within their church then. Like a previous poster said, church members love to gossip about the salacious, so a relationship like that wouldn't stay quiet long.

I wonder if he told Jen he wanted to separate, and she struck first by filing to have the upper hand? It still seems out of character for her though, not to really fight for her marriage.

Some sort of abuse towards one of their kids? I can see her filing in a snap.

If there were abuse toward one of the kids no way church leaders wouldlike his IG post. It would have gotten out and the last thing a church needs is to be showing support to an abuser. Maybe he has done repeated infidelity and has a sex addiction. Isn't that what Glenon Doyle said was the case with her husband-sex addiction? In some religions there is a while lot of forgiveness for men who stray.

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Oh, that's interesting. I think we can rule out an affair with someone within their church then. Like a previous poster said, church members love to gossip about the salacious, so a relationship like that wouldn't stay quiet long.

I wonder if he told Jen he wanted to separate, and she struck first by filing to have the upper hand? It still seems out of character for her though, not to really fight for her marriage.

Some sort of abuse towards one of their kids? I can see her filing in a snap.

**POSSIBLE WORST CASE SCENARIO** [if we are flinging around wild-ass guesses]

I could also see an ongoing affair with an already existing child that was recently discovered.

COVID lockdown means Jen was not off running the kids hither and yon + her normal work routine, and being around the house 24/7 means his possible time that he relied on for his other relationship was not available.

The OW may have said "Enough is enough" and outed the relationship -- or he did.

The shortened timeline from "We are dealing with something" to the outing by the Christian press (b e y o n d tacky, for the record), and the immediate reaction of the kids to rally around Jen and revert to King, suggests that this is the very definition of a fait accompli, not something that has yet to come to pass.

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Oh, that's interesting. I think we can rule out an affair with someone within their church then. Like a previous poster said, church members love to gossip about the salacious, so a relationship like that wouldn't stay quiet long.

I wonder if he told Jen he wanted to separate, and she struck first by filing to have the upper hand? It still seems out of character for her though, not to really fight for her marriage.

Some sort of abuse towards one of their kids? I can see her filing in a snap.

**POSSIBLE WORST CASE SCENARIO** [if we are flinging around wild-ass guesses]

I could also see an ongoing affair with an already existing child that was recently discovered.

COVID lockdown means Jen was not off running the kids hither and yon + her normal work routine, and being around the house 24/7 means his possible time that he relied on for his other relationship was not available.

The OW may have said "Enough is enough" and outed the relationship -- or he did.

The shortened timeline from "We are dealing with something" to the outing by the Christian press (b e y o n d tacky, for the record), and the immediate reaction of the kids to rally around Jen and revert to King, suggests that this is the very definition of a fait accompli, not something that has yet to come to pass.

Yeah, but wouldn't that have hit church gossip? They wouldn't be supporting him with likes. I mean, I guess they would support the fact he chose life and didn't push an abortion for the other woman, but otherwise no. I don't think there is a love child or that he abused anyone. I don't think he stole money, because he has plenty of it already. Maybe he keeps having affairs? Some other addiction?

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An addiction could totally be spun into a PR goldmine. Rehab stint, apology, recommitment it the family, all during Covid, it practically sells itself.

Only a love child can not be spun into something positive. It’s something Jen wouldn’t be able to forget or move past. A lifelong reminder of Brandon’s betrayal.

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The reaction from Brandon reminds me of the marriage of a family friend. The husband (the one in the spotlight) drank a lot more than he should have and went to rehab. He’s been sober for a few years now. Along the way, his wife started documenting her own recovery journey of being married to an alcoholic in the spotlight. He up and realized his wife was sharing in excess his private story online and subsequently had a following of her own. The wife ditched her particular path of faith and began deconstruction after being in therapy due to the addiction and marriage issues. She just reached a breaking point and she ended up having an affair. They have several young kids. Now the husband is trying to rebuild his image online. He wants to be with her but she doesn’t want to continue in the marriage. It’s really hard to see it happen but there is a lot that goes on when one partner in the marriage is in the spotlight.

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Maybe it was Jen who had the affair.

At any rate, it’s devastating.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe it was Jen who had the affair.

At any rate, it’s devastating.

Doubt her kids would rally around her like that if it were the case. Maybe he was a serial cheater and she kept forgiving him and then had enough. Our maybe he brought home an STD?

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An STD - while a big deal - doesn’t seem like it would be any bigger of a deal than generic infidelity. Also, while infidelity would be a deal breaker for most, I don’t think it would be for her. Initially, I thought something horrible and possibly illegal, but he’s not been charged with anything. I’m inclined to think it is more of a love child situation. What else would make her kids completely side with her? I think she could forgive an affair. But maybe he just had an affair and wants out...her willingness to forgive wouldn’t matter, and the kids would definitely side with her. I am sad for her and for their family. They really were remarkable and responsible for a lot of change and acceptance in the Christian community.

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I know it was Jen that filed but maybe it’s Brandon who is insisting on leaving? Call me a fan girl but short if hurting the kids I can’t imagine a situation where she wouldn’t choose to work on the marriage.

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The fact that she filed isn’t really any indication that she wants the divorce, though. When I asked for a divorce my ex-husband filed.

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Brandon’s posting on IG seems like trying to get back in the game and that he has nothing to hide. Some of it may be corny, but honestly reads more genuine than Jen’s brand of authenticity.

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So he was just done? I know things are different in private than in public, but if he is just done, why are all the kids backing her?

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Anonymous wrote:Brandon’s posting on IG seems like trying to get back in the game and that he has nothing to hide. Some of it may be corny, but honestly reads more genuine than Jen’s brand of authenticity.

Perhaps.... but corny is right, and the melodramatic poses with the hat and the horse is too much for me. Come on man. Suck it up buttercup. Life’s tough and hard. You ain’t the only one who’s weathered tough shit, made horrible choices, or had an addiction or whatever may be going on. Times are tough all over- people are being burned out of their homes, having their homes destroyed by hurricanes, losing their livelihood, and literally dying from a pandemic. Those are the real tragedies. Sure it sucks for them and it’s horribly sad and tough, but he’s likely not worrying about where he’s getting his supper tonight or whether he has a roof over his head and clean clothes to wear. I imagine he’s got plenty of cash to pay his bills, get another cute “biker” tattoo or get some tassels for his motorcycle.

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Anonymous wrote:So he was just done? I know things are different in private than in public, but if he is just done, why are all the kids backing her?

Great point. He was, from my observations thru the years to be very involved and close to the kids. I certainly wasn’t in the know, but just casual run ins and observations. Unless, he’s gone totally off the rails and wants to live the loner biker life. Maybe she didn’t want to be hi ol’ lady and ride bitch on his Harley.

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One of his latest posts- the picture with the horse was tagged on his twitter account with the account @onsiteworkshops located in Tennessee. So maybe he’s off at some sort of “rehab”
Here is their website:
https://www.onsiteworkshops.com/