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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Branden Hatmaker posted again with the quote that's something like Fall 7 times get up 8 or whatever it is[/quote]

Who poses for pictures with prophetic little sayings like that. How many takes does it take to get the ideal shot that captures his contemplative self?  It’s just a bit much. What ever the reasons to their split, I do feel for them. But, shit, they are just adding to the drama, gossip, and speculation with the false humility and retrospective. [/quote]

Pure speculation — but church leaders liked his IG post so we can assume that something egregious with them is probably off the table.

The tone seems like he failed at some sort of sobriety. If so, he has my empathy, sober living is hard and this evangelical wine mom culture makes drinking a personality trait. If he has a disease and is being cast off by his family, that would break anyone.

But doesn’t explain the kids all turning against him and changing their names. I’m thinking it is an affair and some sort of addiction. [/quote]

Oh, that's interesting. I think we can rule out an affair with someone within their church then. Like a previous poster said, church members love to gossip about the salacious, so a relationship like that wouldn't stay quiet long.

I wonder if he told Jen he wanted to separate, and she struck first by filing to have the upper hand? It still seems out of character for her though, not to really fight for her marriage.

Some sort of abuse towards one of their kids? I can see her filing in a snap.[/quote]

If there were abuse toward one of the kids no way church leaders wouldlike his IG post. It would have gotten out and the last thing a church needs is to be showing support to an abuser. Maybe he has done repeated infidelity and has a sex addiction. Isn't that what Glenon Doyle said was the case with her husband-sex addiction? In some religions there is a while lot of forgiveness for men who stray.[/quote]

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