Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?

[Anonymous]

This is my definítion of reclining: The right to feel less uncomfortable during a flight to avoid feeling like a sardine.

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”

Isn’t that what the guy behind her is saying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What airlines are people flying where this is such an issue?

When I've flown on American Airlines, the seat only reclines a little. Considering the angle of the seat, I'm assuming that the person behind me is losing maybe 1/2 " legroom (if that). Is that what people are fussing about, or are there airlines where the seats recline significantly more?

+1 I pointed out the same thing upthread. In the grand scheme of things, the lost space is relatively minuscule. But I suppose it is just an easy thing on which to fixate.

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”

Isn’t that what the guy behind her is saying?

It’s too bad she doesn’t have the moral character to be the better person, regardless of what other people are doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”

Isn’t that what the guy behind her is saying?

It’s too bad she doesn’t have the moral character to be the better person, regardless of what other people are doing.

She’s standing up for herself and her rights. You want her to be a good little woman, shut up and do what she’s told.

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”

Isn’t that what the guy behind her is saying?

It’s too bad she doesn’t have the moral character to be the better person, regardless of what other people are doing.

She’s standing up for herself and her rights. You want her to be a good little woman, shut up and do what she’s told.

When you are in a sardine can, you should line up like good little sardines.

She didn’t have the “right” to recline. Definitely not after the FA asked her to straighten up.

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”

Isn’t that what the guy behind her is saying?

It’s too bad she doesn’t have the moral character to be the better person, regardless of what other people are doing.

She’s standing up for herself and her rights. You want her to be a good little woman, shut up and do what she’s told.

No, recliners impose on the space of the people behind them. They are the aggressor. It’s as bad as pointing a finger in their face. All she has to do is decide that she won’t do that to someone else, regardless of what is “allowed.” Good character. It’s that simple.

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”

Isn’t that what the guy behind her is saying?

It’s too bad she doesn’t have the moral character to be the better person, regardless of what other people are doing.

She’s standing up for herself and her rights. You want her to be a good little woman, shut up and do what she’s told.

No, recliners impose on the space of the people behind them. They are the aggressor. It’s as bad as pointing a finger in their face. All she has to do is decide that she won’t do that to someone else, regardless of what is “allowed.” Good character. It’s that simple.

Right CEO. Don’t offer recline on your shoddy cheap airlines then.

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”

Isn’t that what the guy behind her is saying?

It’s too bad she doesn’t have the moral character to be the better person, regardless of what other people are doing.

She’s standing up for herself and her rights. You want her to be a good little woman, shut up and do what she’s told.

When you are in a sardine can, you should line up like good little sardines.

She didn’t have the “right” to recline. Definitely not after the FA asked her to straighten up.

Bye American Airlines. I’ll choose Delta Comfort next time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Delta is now retrofitting all of their A320’s to recline 1/2 as much as before.

wow way to ruin for it everybody

Right. Everyone can thank the jerk lady for taking this stand on behalf of everyone else!

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Anonymous wrote:Delta CEO says you can recline but you should ask first.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airline-passengers-should-ask-they-recline-delta-ceo-says-after-n1137351

Delta CEO shouldn't put passengers in this situation in the first place.

Aircraft travel started at a time when people still had some manners and class. They weren’t such self centered, entitled, obnoxious people who think that because a feature is there to be used when/if appropriate then I’VE TECHNICALLY PAID FOR IT SO I’VE GOT THE RIGHT TO USE IT EVERY SINGLE SECOND NO MATTER WHAT DAMMIT.

Exactly! Back in the day, it used to be common practice to ask the person behind you "Do you mind if I recline my seat?" Nowadays, being polite and considerate is seen as some sort of weakness.

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Anonymous wrote:Delta is now retrofitting all of their A320’s to recline 1/2 as much as before.

wow way to ruin for it everybody

Right. Everyone can thank the jerk lady for taking this stand on behalf of everyone else!

What good is the ability to recline if we don’t have the right to use it? So all of you no-recliners shouldn’t care if they take away the ability. I’ll keep flying SW.

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”

Isn’t that what the guy behind her is saying?

It’s too bad she doesn’t have the moral character to be the better person, regardless of what other people are doing.

She’s standing up for herself and her rights. You want her to be a good little woman, shut up and do what she’s told.

This is referring to the poster who said he/she wouldn’t put up his/her seat unless the whole plane was told to do it. That has nothing to do with being a good little woman. It doesn’t matter if the recliner is a man, a woman, or a goat. Choosing to not impose on another being by projecting yourself into their space is the morally right thing to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Delta is now retrofitting all of their A320’s to recline 1/2 as much as before.

wow way to ruin for it everybody

Right. Everyone can thank the jerk lady for taking this stand on behalf of everyone else!

What good is the ability to recline if we don’t have the right to use it? So all of you no-recliners shouldn’t care if they take away the ability. I’ll keep flying SW.

You have the "right" to do all sorts of things but some situational awareness and consideration on your part would be nice. Privileges have a way of being taken away from everyone when only a handful abuse them.

[Anonymous]

After reading this thread I will definitely be reclining my seat every single flight for the whole flight, just because the anti-recliners are so obnoxious and I’m giddy at the opportunity to ruin their flight lol