Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The airlines ought to fix the seats so they don’t recline. They are already way too small.


I see it differently. The airlines ought to treat passengers better and space the rows farther apart so that we can all have enough space to recline. It's the configuration that's causing these problems.


Until passengers vote with their feet/wallets on this, the airlines will continue. It’s business. That does in no way excuse the man’s behavior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:you noticed how she set up her video ready to tape? i think she set this up to get on the news and may be make money from the airlines. what a bit*h.


I saw this a few days ago and that article said he punched the seat hard 9 times, then switched to the constant ones you see in the video. She started video after the original.

I bet he wouldn’t have done it if a man was in the seat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:you noticed how she set up her video ready to tape? i think she set this up to get on the news and may be make money from the airlines. what a bit*h.
You don't know that. Perhaps he was punching before and continued punching after. I highly doubt she planned on forcing him to punch her seat like, "hey watch this I'm going to recline and let's see if the passenger behind me loses his damn mind".


“First I was afraid, I was petrified. Kept thinking he was gonna kill me with those crazy eyes. But I took so many hits and I thought how he did me wrong and grew strong! I learned how to tweet along. He hit my back – so many times so I’ll recline! I will recline! Hey hey!” she wrote.


“It was scary and very painful” she said, claiming she lost time at work, had to receive X-rays and suffered headaches because of the incident.

“I’m in pain. I have 1 cervical disk left that isn’t fused – the first 1 which allows me some mobility. It’s scary bc it’s this the kind of injury that could do it in,” she said.

“I am grateful for the limited movement I still have and shouldn’t have had to endure the repeated blows.”


Seriously? This sounds like "pay me" scheme. She makes it sound like the guy beat the shit of her in a dark alley. She is clearly after money from the airline





I have serious back problems and what he did would seriously aggravate them. I don't recline because it causes back pain, but I agree with the analysis that this is showing the world just how awful the anti-recliners are: entitled, nasty jerks defending their douchebag brother.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The airlines ought to fix the seats so they don’t recline. They are already way too small.


I see it differently. The airlines ought to treat passengers better and space the rows farther apart so that we can all have enough space to recline. It's the configuration that's causing these problems.


They will be happy to do that if you are willing to pay x2, x3 for the tickets you are paying now. Are you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m short . I recline my seat for long flights. I do not think it is rude. People recline their seats, thaw the armrest (especially males). I blame the airlines. DCUM is not the etiquette guide.


The airline made me do it!



Pathetic.


I fully agree with the PP. The seats recline. If the airline isn't providing enough space to recline without infringing on the next passenger, they need to fix it and stop framing it as an etiquette problem. It's a design problem because they are cramming us in like sardines to maximize profits.


Everyone needs to seriously stop blaming the airlines. Just check out the income statement and balance sheet of almost any US airline. They are not raking in the money! Nobody wants to enter this crappy business. THe reality is that the business has expanded so much that now poor people are a huge part of the customer base. People don't want to pay more than $200 for a domestic plane ticket. And sorry, that doesn't pay the bills. The seats have been getting more cramped because of this. If you don't like it, fly business. When people start paying more money for bigger seats, the supply of seats on planes will shift to bigger seats. It's like saying why are their no flip phones anymore. Because nobody bought them! "It's an evil scheme!" lol
Anonymous
We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The airlines ought to fix the seats so they don’t recline. They are already way too small.


I see it differently. The airlines ought to treat passengers better and space the rows farther apart so that we can all have enough space to recline. It's the configuration that's causing these problems.


Until passengers vote with their feet/wallets on this, the airlines will continue. It’s business. That does in no way excuse the man’s behavior.


How are we supposed to address this? We need to fly and the airlines exploit that -- and keep adding their extra fees for luggage, booking seats in advance, keeping families together, etc. That's why they keep doing this crap. We don't have much of a choice unless a disruptor airline hits the market. But I wouldn't certainly happily take my business to any competitor that would provide a better customer experience than U.S. airlines currently do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.


YOu should have purchased a seat for your child, as I have done many times on international flights.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The airlines ought to fix the seats so they don’t recline. They are already way too small.


I see it differently. The airlines ought to treat passengers better and space the rows farther apart so that we can all have enough space to recline. It's the configuration that's causing these problems.


Until passengers vote with their feet/wallets on this, the airlines will continue. It’s business. That does in no way excuse the man’s behavior.


How are we supposed to address this? We need to fly and the airlines exploit that -- and keep adding their extra fees for luggage, booking seats in advance, keeping families together, etc. That's why they keep doing this crap. We don't have much of a choice unless a disruptor airline hits the market. But I wouldn't certainly happily take my business to any competitor that would provide a better customer experience than U.S. airlines currently do.


All of this can be true and yet pounding on the seat in front of you would still be wrong. It’s two different issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.


You are the entitled one. You should have bought another ticket for the baby, not expected everyone around you to bend over backwards because you didn't want to buy another ticket. I traveled with babies too, and I always brought their carseats and paid for an extra ticket.

The anti-recliners are so selfish and entitled it is mind-blowing. No wonder you are all defending a guy who committed assault because he didn't get his way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m short . I recline my seat for long flights. I do not think it is rude. People recline their seats, thaw the armrest (especially males). I blame the airlines. DCUM is not the etiquette guide.


The airline made me do it!



Pathetic.


I fully agree with the PP. The seats recline. If the airline isn't providing enough space to recline without infringing on the next passenger, they need to fix it and stop framing it as an etiquette problem. It's a design problem because they are cramming us in like sardines to maximize profits.


Everyone needs to seriously stop blaming the airlines. Just check out the income statement and balance sheet of almost any US airline. They are not raking in the money! Nobody wants to enter this crappy business. THe reality is that the business has expanded so much that now poor people are a huge part of the customer base. People don't want to pay more than $200 for a domestic plane ticket. And sorry, that doesn't pay the bills. The seats have been getting more cramped because of this. If you don't like it, fly business. When people start paying more money for bigger seats, the supply of seats on planes will shift to bigger seats. It's like saying why are their no flip phones anymore. Because nobody bought them! "It's an evil scheme!" lol


Total B.S. If they offered a better product, we'd pay more. Jet Blue is a great example with their tv monitors. It's a superior experience and proves the mold can be broken. We all pay more than $200 bucks because they nickel and dime us on anything. I would happily fly any disruptor. They have captive (literally and figuratively) and most of us would desperately flock to a better option.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.


You are the entitled one. You should have bought another ticket for the baby, not expected everyone around you to bend over backwards because you didn't want to buy another ticket. I traveled with babies too, and I always brought their carseats and paid for an extra ticket.

The anti-recliners are so selfish and entitled it is mind-blowing. No wonder you are all defending a guy who committed assault because he didn't get his way.


Agreed. It's not the recliner's fault for exercising a paid and sometimes quite necessary feature.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The airlines ought to fix the seats so they don’t recline. They are already way too small.


I see it differently. The airlines ought to treat passengers better and space the rows farther apart so that we can all have enough space to recline. It's the configuration that's causing these problems.


Until passengers vote with their feet/wallets on this, the airlines will continue. It’s business. That does in no way excuse the man’s behavior.


How are we supposed to address this? We need to fly and the airlines exploit that -- and keep adding their extra fees for luggage, booking seats in advance, keeping families together, etc. That's why they keep doing this crap. We don't have much of a choice unless a disruptor airline hits the market. But I wouldn't certainly happily take my business to any competitor that would provide a better customer experience than U.S. airlines currently do.


All of this can be true and yet pounding on the seat in front of you would still be wrong. It’s two different issues.


Fully agree. Just pointing out that this is more of a reflection of how frustrated we all are as passengers (both the pro and anti recliners.)
Anonymous
If a kid was kicking the seat for the entire flight, the flight attendant would have said the kid was misbehaving and out of control. Why is an adult allowed to misbehave?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.


YOu should have purchased a seat for your child, as I have done many times on international flights.


She should buy a seat instead of have a lap baby (which she is entitled to have), so the guy can recline his seat without consideration (which he is entitled to do)?

What a hypocrite you are!
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