Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Delta CEO says you can recline but you should ask first.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airline-passengers-should-ask-they-recline-delta-ceo-says-after-n1137351

Delta CEO shouldn't put passengers in this situation in the first place.

Aircraft travel started at a time when people still had some manners and class. They weren’t such self centered, entitled, obnoxious people who think that because a feature is there to be used when/if appropriate then I’VE TECHNICALLY PAID FOR IT SO I’VE GOT THE RIGHT TO USE IT EVERY SINGLE SECOND NO MATTER WHAT DAMMIT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delta CEO says you can recline but you should ask first.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airline-passengers-should-ask-they-recline-delta-ceo-says-after-n1137351

Delta CEO shouldn't put passengers in this situation in the first place.

Taxpayers bailed out the airlines, then the airlines screwed the public. They should not be allowed to carry passengers unless they meet reasonable passenger requirements. Can you imagine if Metro trains or buses charged passengers by size?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delta CEO says you can recline but you should ask first.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airline-passengers-should-ask-they-recline-delta-ceo-says-after-n1137351

Delta CEO shouldn't put passengers in this situation in the first place.

Aircraft travel started at a time when people still had some manners and class. They weren’t such self centered, entitled, obnoxious people who think that because a feature is there to be used when/if appropriate then I’VE TECHNICALLY PAID FOR IT SO I’VE GOT THE RIGHT TO USE IT EVERY SINGLE SECOND NO MATTER WHAT DAMMIT.

Damn right! Especially if airlines keep squeezing us over every little thing. Reclining is about the last damn thing we're allowed to do -- even then we could still get deep vein thrombosis!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:you noticed how she set up her video ready to tape? i think she set this up to get on the news and may be make money from the airlines. what a bit*h.

You don't know that. Perhaps he was punching before and continued punching after. I highly doubt she planned on forcing him to punch her seat like, "hey watch this I'm going to recline and let's see if the passenger behind me loses his damn mind".

“First I was afraid, I was petrified. Kept thinking he was gonna kill me with those crazy eyes. But I took so many hits and I thought how he did me wrong and grew strong! I learned how to tweet along. He hit my back – so many times so I’ll recline! I will recline! Hey hey!” she wrote.


“It was scary and very painful” she said, claiming she lost time at work, had to receive X-rays and suffered headaches because of the incident.

“I’m in pain. I have 1 cervical disk left that isn’t fused – the first 1 which allows me some mobility. It’s scary bc it’s this the kind of injury that could do it in,” she said.

“I am grateful for the limited movement I still have and shouldn’t have had to endure the repeated blows.”

Seriously? This sounds like "pay me" scheme. She makes it sound like the guy beat the shit of her in a dark alley. She is clearly after money from the airline

Is this quote a joke? Because I read the whole thing singing the Gloria Gaynor song I will survive.

She's a lawsuit hungry loon who probably does this sort of thing for a "living".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

You listen to the FA (and ultimately the captain if it escalates) or you get kicked off.

Don’t like it, drive. You can recline the seat as much as you like in your own car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delta CEO says you can recline but you should ask first.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airline-passengers-should-ask-they-recline-delta-ceo-says-after-n1137351

Delta CEO shouldn't put passengers in this situation in the first place.

Aircraft travel started at a time when people still had some manners and class. They weren’t such self centered, entitled, obnoxious people who think that because a feature is there to be used when/if appropriate then I’VE TECHNICALLY PAID FOR IT SO I’VE GOT THE RIGHT TO USE IT EVERY SINGLE SECOND NO MATTER WHAT DAMMIT.

You need a yoga class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He was eating food on his tray and asked her to raise her seat up. She did. When he finished eating, she reclined her seat again. He got aggravated and at some point the flight attendant came over talked to the two of them and offered HIM a free drink. The lady remained reclined in her seat and when he started to drum on her seat that's when she started to video tape him. He kept drumming on her seat for a good part of the rest of the flight it looked like.

They both behaved like jackazzes.

She claimed he punched the back of her seat several times with a lot of force. Once she started recording he switched to the drumming which is what the video shows.

I do lot understand why planes do not have security cameras on them. Seems it would stop so much of the he said she said.

His reaction was over the top but her unwillingness to rectify the situation by moving her seat up was also over the top. There is no "victim" here. They both behaved liked jerks and deserve absolutely nothing from the airline. I hope they get nothing.

How exactly did she behave like a jerk? By using a seat feature that she has every right to use?! And if the person in front of her also reclined his seat, which is most probable, would you advise her to bang their seat until they also sit in straight position? How is he more entitled to space than she is? I’ve been in his shoes where I had to sit on a non reclining seat on a transatlantic flight and it didn’t occur to me to force the person in front to not recline their seat. And yes, I had less space than others, but I didn’t feel that this gave me the right to make the whole 47 seats in front of me sit straight.

She was a jerk because he had asked her previously to put her seat up because he was too cramped to eat the food on his tray and she raised her seat while he ate. As soon as he finished eating she put her seat back down, he objected again and she ignored him. The flight attendant came over and this lady refused to raise her seat even a little bit to give the guy behind her some more breathing room.

The whole thing was absolutely ridiculous. I find both of these passengers to be at fault.

No again. It is the AIRLINES at fault. The seats are built for tween size adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

You listen to the FA (and ultimately the captain if it escalates) or you get kicked off.

Don’t like it, drive. You can recline the seat as much as you like in your own car.

Did they kick her off? No they did not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Delta is now retrofitting all of their A320’s to recline 1/2 as much as before.

wow way to ruin for it everybody

[Anonymous]

The CEO needs to sit in a non-reclining desk chair with no leg room for a few hours a day.

[Anonymous]

What airlines are people flying where this is such an issue?

When I've flown on American Airlines, the seat only reclines a little. Considering the angle of the seat, I'm assuming that the person behind me is losing maybe 1/2 " legroom (if that). Is that what people are fussing about, or are there airlines where the seats recline significantly more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just watched it and not at all what I was expecting given the comments that made it seem he was some over the top asshole. He gently taps and shakes the seat basiclaly to the beat of his music. He is being annoying but not aggressive. His response is immature and unnecessary but this isn't some 'losing it' episode like people are saying.

They seem to have gotten into a dynamic of both wanting to irritate the other.

Who knows what really happened. Maybe she reclined then unreclined her seat repeatedly or did who knows what. I think they both deserved each other

He was absolutely being passive aggressive. She had the right to recline and the FA did NOT have the right to tell her not to.

Is that defined in the airline passenger bill of rights?

She needs to obey the FA. Period.

I would have told the flight attendant I will put my seat back up when everyone on the plane is told to do so. Until then, it’s disparate treatment.

Why can’t you choose to be considerate?

Why do I have to be the unlucky one who can’t recline when everyone else on the plane is allowed to? Besides I fly SW where legroom is much better. My 6’4” DH is fine even if the person in front of him reclines.

“Me, me, me, me, me!”