What does it mean to “ban” abortion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

Oh really?

[Anonymous]

It means look for more religious fiat being pass down by what now is a radical religious council that people call SCOTUS. Birth control, protection for gays, etc are going away! Everything around privacy. Corporations will love this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberals just need something to be upset about these days. We’re a million miles away from Roe being overturned. Even if it is, abortion will become state by state. Do you honestly believe places like NY or CA or NJ ever turn red enough that no abortions will be offered anywhere?

As for --- OMG poor people can’t afford that. Give me a break, I’m having a very hard time believing the Harvard educated, raised in Greenwich/Long Island biglaw women I work with are soooo personally concerned about ghetto black women or rural Indiana white women. And let’s be honest, how many abortions does the average women get in a lifetime? Across all women, I bet it’s 0. But even if I’m wrong and it’s 1 or 2. I’m sorry if you need to get rid of a kid, 2x in your life, you will borrow from your baby daddy or a get pay day loan, get yourself on a greyhound bus and a motel 6 room and get it done. This is America, not rural Africa or South America; even poor people have access to credit cards – charge it all and pay it back for years, you’ll still get what you need. And if you don’t have credit, see above re pay day loans. It’s not THAT big of a deal.

NP
I hope you are f'ing ashamed of yourself.

[Anonymous]

It means an access to white babies for me and my friends - and if their dumb white who*e mothers try to flee the state before we get our white babies clink-clink, so win-win. If non-white women die trying - another win-win, amirite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberals just need something to be upset about these days. We’re a million miles away from Roe being overturned. Even if it is, abortion will become state by state. Do you honestly believe places like NY or CA or NJ ever turn red enough that no abortions will be offered anywhere?

As for --- OMG poor people can’t afford that. Give me a break, I’m having a very hard time believing the Harvard educated, raised in Greenwich/Long Island biglaw women I work with are soooo personally concerned about ghetto black women or rural Indiana white women. And let’s be honest, how many abortions does the average women get in a lifetime? Across all women, I bet it’s 0. But even if I’m wrong and it’s 1 or 2. I’m sorry if you need to get rid of a kid, 2x in your life, you will borrow from your baby daddy or a get pay day loan, get yourself on a greyhound bus and a motel 6 room and get it done. This is America, not rural Africa or South America; even poor people have access to credit cards – charge it all and pay it back for years, you’ll still get what you need. And if you don’t have credit, see above re pay day loans. It’s not THAT big of a deal.

NP
I hope you are f'ing ashamed of yourself.

Why do you think they'll stop at Roe? Why wouldn't banning access to abortion nationwide be on the table as the first act of a unified Republican Congress and Presidency? That would completely undermine whatever "states' rights" are in places like New York and California or NJ. The decision could likely lead to overturning Obergefell as well, given the draft opinion apparently criticizes this decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberals just need something to be upset about these days. We’re a million miles away from Roe being overturned. Even if it is, abortion will become state by state. Do you honestly believe places like NY or CA or NJ ever turn red enough that no abortions will be offered anywhere?

As for --- OMG poor people can’t afford that. Give me a break, I’m having a very hard time believing the Harvard educated, raised in Greenwich/Long Island biglaw women I work with are soooo personally concerned about ghetto black women or rural Indiana white women. And let’s be honest, how many abortions does the average women get in a lifetime? Across all women, I bet it’s 0. But even if I’m wrong and it’s 1 or 2. I’m sorry if you need to get rid of a kid, 2x in your life, you will borrow from your baby daddy or a get pay day loan, get yourself on a greyhound bus and a motel 6 room and get it done. This is America, not rural Africa or South America; even poor people have access to credit cards – charge it all and pay it back for years, you’ll still get what you need. And if you don’t have credit, see above re pay day loans. It’s not THAT big of a deal.

NP
I hope you are f'ing ashamed of yourself.

Why do you think they'll stop at Roe? Why wouldn't banning access to abortion nationwide be on the table as the first act of a unified Republican Congress and Presidency? That would completely undermine whatever "states' rights" are in places like New York and California or NJ. The decision could likely lead to overturning Obergefell as well, given the draft opinion apparently criticizes this decision.

Yes, it’s clearly not about “states’ rights”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait until the rich Republicans realize their 35 year old daughters can’t abort a fetus that tests positive for Down Syndrome. Did you know that the majority are aborted?

The rich will just travel to where it is legal.

No. Get out there ladies and fight this fight. We now need to travel out of our own states to get a fundamental right held by the voters in another state? Our kids deserve the same rights held by the people of the blue states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberals just need something to be upset about these days. We’re a million miles away from Roe being overturned. Even if it is, abortion will become state by state. Do you honestly believe places like NY or CA or NJ ever turn red enough that no abortions will be offered anywhere?

As for --- OMG poor people can’t afford that. Give me a break, I’m having a very hard time believing the Harvard educated, raised in Greenwich/Long Island biglaw women I work with are soooo personally concerned about ghetto black women or rural Indiana white women. And let’s be honest, how many abortions does the average women get in a lifetime? Across all women, I bet it’s 0. But even if I’m wrong and it’s 1 or 2. I’m sorry if you need to get rid of a kid, 2x in your life, you will borrow from your baby daddy or a get pay day loan, get yourself on a greyhound bus and a motel 6 room and get it done. This is America, not rural Africa or South America; even poor people have access to credit cards – charge it all and pay it back for years, you’ll still get what you need. And if you don’t have credit, see above re pay day loans. It’s not THAT big of a deal.

NP
I hope you are f'ing ashamed of yourself.

Why do you think they'll stop at Roe? Why wouldn't banning access to abortion nationwide be on the table as the first act of a unified Republican Congress and Presidency? That would completely undermine whatever "states' rights" are in places like New York and California or NJ. The decision could likely lead to overturning Obergefell as well, given the draft opinion apparently criticizes this decision.

Reading comprehension fail. You aren't reading the post to which you are replying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberals just need something to be upset about these days. We’re a million miles away from Roe being overturned. Even if it is, abortion will become state by state. Do you honestly believe places like NY or CA or NJ ever turn red enough that no abortions will be offered anywhere?

As for --- OMG poor people can’t afford that. Give me a break, I’m having a very hard time believing the Harvard educated, raised in Greenwich/Long Island biglaw women I work with are soooo personally concerned about ghetto black women or rural Indiana white women. And let’s be honest, how many abortions does the average women get in a lifetime? Across all women, I bet it’s 0. But even if I’m wrong and it’s 1 or 2. I’m sorry if you need to get rid of a kid, 2x in your life, you will borrow from your baby daddy or a get pay day loan, get yourself on a greyhound bus and a motel 6 room and get it done. This is America, not rural Africa or South America; even poor people have access to credit cards – charge it all and pay it back for years, you’ll still get what you need. And if you don’t have credit, see above re pay day loans. It’s not THAT big of a deal.

NP
I hope you are f'ing ashamed of yourself.

Why do you think they'll stop at Roe? Why wouldn't banning access to abortion nationwide be on the table as the first act of a unified Republican Congress and Presidency? That would completely undermine whatever "states' rights" are in places like New York and California or NJ. The decision could likely lead to overturning Obergefell as well, given the draft opinion apparently criticizes this decision.

I think you’re right. This is coming soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait until the rich Republicans realize their 35 year old daughters can’t abort a fetus that tests positive for Down Syndrome. Did you know that the majority are aborted?

The rich will just travel to where it is legal.

No. Get out there ladies and fight this fight. We now need to travel out of our own states to get a fundamental right held by the voters in another state? Our kids deserve the same rights held by the people of the blue states.

We needed this five years ago. It's too late now. The whole purpose of Donald Trump was to turn the Supreme Court. It's turned, and there is nothing we can do about it at this point. Roe is just the first domino.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait until the rich Republicans realize their 35 year old daughters can’t abort a fetus that tests positive for Down Syndrome. Did you know that the majority are aborted?

The rich will just travel to where it is legal.

No. Get out there ladies and fight this fight. We now need to travel out of our own states to get a fundamental right held by the voters in another state? Our kids deserve the same rights held by the people of the blue states.

We needed this five years ago. It's too late now. The whole purpose of Donald Trump was to turn the Supreme Court. It's turned, and there is nothing we can do about it at this point. Roe is just the first domino.

Take money away from candidates and corporations in support of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

True, they just pay off their mistresses and girlfriends to have them.

Most of my conservative friends top desire is to make abortion illegal. What they do t realize it is the law will eventually affect their daughters who are dealing with difficult pregnancies or miscarriages, but won't affect rich Republicans who will fly their mistresses and daughters to places with abortion.

They also live in areas with lots of poor people who will no longer be able to have abortions if their state goes in that direction. Resulting in lots more welfare it lots more crime. Guess they will get their wish!

Is this what liberals think? Poor = welfare = crime? That's kind of harsh for a party that claims it's "progressive."

Ummm. This has actually been looked at and proven - abortion brings down crime rates. https://law.stanford.edu/publications/the-impact-of-legalized-abortion-on-crime-over-the-last-two-decades/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait until the rich Republicans realize their 35 year old daughters can’t abort a fetus that tests positive for Down Syndrome. Did you know that the majority are aborted?

The rich will just travel to where it is legal.

No. Get out there ladies and fight this fight. We now need to travel out of our own states to get a fundamental right held by the voters in another state? Our kids deserve the same rights held by the people of the blue states.

We needed this five years ago. It's too late now. The whole purpose of Donald Trump was to turn the Supreme Court. It's turned, and there is nothing we can do about it at this point. Roe is just the first domino.

This. All of you people who "didn't like Hillary personally" or "wish they had better choices", etc. etc. etc. WE FU--ING TOLD YOU. And we are stuck with it b/c you could not pull up your big girl/boy pants and cast a responsible vote, or cast any vote at all.

It's done. And this is just the beginning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberals just need something to be upset about these days. We’re a million miles away from Roe being overturned. Even if it is, abortion will become state by state. Do you honestly believe places like NY or CA or NJ ever turn red enough that no abortions will be offered anywhere?

As for --- OMG poor people can’t afford that. Give me a break, I’m having a very hard time believing the Harvard educated, raised in Greenwich/Long Island biglaw women I work with are soooo personally concerned about ghetto black women or rural Indiana white women. And let’s be honest, how many abortions does the average women get in a lifetime? Across all women, I bet it’s 0. But even if I’m wrong and it’s 1 or 2. I’m sorry if you need to get rid of a kid, 2x in your life, you will borrow from your baby daddy or a get pay day loan, get yourself on a greyhound bus and a motel 6 room and get it done. This is America, not rural Africa or South America; even poor people have access to credit cards – charge it all and pay it back for years, you’ll still get what you need. And if you don’t have credit, see above re pay day loans. It’s not THAT big of a deal.

NP
I hope you are f'ing ashamed of yourself.

I am
Why do you think they'll stop at Roe? Why wouldn't banning access to abortion nationwide be on the table as the first act of a unified Republican Congress and Presidency? That would completely undermine whatever "states' rights" are in places like New York and California or NJ. The decision could likely lead to overturning Obergefell as well, given the draft opinion apparently criticizes this decision.

I think you’re right. This is coming soon.

I am worried about what’s next. IVF? personhood, etc. i can’t type much while driving but i fear for my donor egg kids and what that might mean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

True, they just pay off their mistresses and girlfriends to have them.

Most of my conservative friends top desire is to make abortion illegal. What they do t realize it is the law will eventually affect their daughters who are dealing with difficult pregnancies or miscarriages, but won't affect rich Republicans who will fly their mistresses and daughters to places with abortion.

They also live in areas with lots of poor people who will no longer be able to have abortions if their state goes in that direction. Resulting in lots more welfare it lots more crime. Guess they will get their wish!

Is this what liberals think? Poor = welfare = crime? That's kind of harsh for a party that claims it's "progressive."

Ummm. This has actually been looked at and proven - abortion brings down crime rates. https://law.stanford.edu/publications/the-impact-of-legalized-abortion-on-crime-over-the-last-two-decades/

Someone on one of these threads claimed banning abortion will increase abortions? Seems counterintuitive. Anyone have any evidence for claim?