CogAT/Pool letter arrived
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Anonymous
OP - Thanks. Debating whether to submit parent referral or save for appeal if it gets to that stage ; hopefully not. |
Anonymous
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As there is a dependency on GBRS, what could be the least score on GBRS to get into AAP, if both scores are more than 145 and is in pool.
GBRS is the only unknown number at this point. |
Anonymous
The best indicator of needing AAP is not the WISC, it is if you are actually able to do Advanced Academics. I don't understand why an academic test isn't given. I don't care what a kid's IQ is, I care whether a kid can keep up academically in AAP so the kid doesn't slow the other kids down. My kid would complain about the teacher having to dumb down the lesson and simplify work for a few kids who were on grade level. They did not demonstrate a need for a program focusing on advanced academics because they were working on grade level. No one cares what your IQ is when you apply to college, they care about your SAT score and your grades on challenging academic classes. |
Anonymous
| Except for math, it is all on grade level. |
Anonymous
If both scores are more than 145 I would be shocked to see a low GBRS. I don't think you have anything to worry about. |
Anonymous
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My DC is in pool and we have received letter. Since it came so late we prepared the parent referral.
Do we need to submit parent referral form anymore or only optional 'Parent/Guardian Questionnaire' form ? We do plan to submit additional samples/recommendations etc. |
Anonymous
Disagree. It is common for gifted children to underachieve, and they are arguably the group who needs gifted services the most. AAP as it is isn't necessarily the type of gifted services that they need, but they undoubtedly need something. Also, looking purely at academic achievement would just reward high SES children who have already been enriched. It would leave behind lower SES or ESOL kids who are quite smart but have not had access to the resources to help them develop their talents. The school AAP referral form includes places to list the DRA and placement in advanced math. The two most recent report cards are also submitted, as well as several work samples from the school. Academic ability additionally factors into the GBRS. I'm sure the committee receives those materials for a reason and often uses them to reject kids who seem like they would struggle to keep up with AAP. |
Anonymous
Kind of cruel, retired AART. From the outside, it looks like such confusing, inconsistent process. People are just trying to understand and do right by their kids. |
Anonymous
No need to submit the parent referral and the rest is optional. At worst, you submit everything and the AART tosses the referral that is now redundant. |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
| anyone receive anything by mail today? I still haven't gotten anything. |
Anonymous
What could be worst case scenario here? By submitting optional info, child case is strengthen. They may or may not use it. If case goes to appeal then WISC is the only way in. I guess, same referral can be used again or get new one in 3 moths time. So overall just waste of effort but if samples are solid then child have a case and can avoid appeal. |
Anonymous
| Does anyone know if we parent referral and DC found eligible for in-pool which files one gets considered? Do they take parent referral form or whatever school plans to use? |
Anonymous
Nothing! 22101. We did the parent referral |
Anonymous
| no cogat score in 22030 either |