All clothing is ugly these days

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think clothing is that bad. I think the problem is that people don't want to pay for it. They want a $40 shirt that lasts and is a nice material. If you're willing to spend the money there are some great brands out there. Hugo Boss, Theory, Rebecca Taylor, Joie, DVF, etc. what's even better is that now with the internet ALL women have access to these brands. You don't have to live in NY to find nice clothing. Again, most women don't want to pay for it. They want Zara prices. Instead you need to spend more money on clothing and have it tailored.

OP here, and I disagree. I gladly pay for high quality, nice fabrics and good design. I do shop at high-end stores, mixed in with department stores and chains here or there. Labels I've loved for years--including the ones you've mentioned above--really have gone downhill, with materials, lack of options (sleveless EVERYTHING), and styling. It really has.

I would happily pay. Take my money! But when you are trying to sell me Dynasty meets Little House on the Prarie, I am not biting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You mean team fast fashion. There's a difference. And, lol, at Anne Taylor being held up as an example of fashion. Please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You are sad, sad, sad if you are a 24-year-old who trolls fashion boards on a MOM SITE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You mean team fast fashion. There's a difference. And, lol, at Anne Taylor being held up as an example of fashion. Please.

Ann*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You mean team fast fashion. There's a difference. And, lol, at Anne Taylor being held up as an example of fashion. Please.

Ann*

Who held it up as one? The fraus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You are sad, sad, sad if you are a 24-year-old who trolls fashion boards on a MOM SITE.

Amen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think clothing is that bad. I think the problem is that people don't want to pay for it. They want a $40 shirt that lasts and is a nice material. If you're willing to spend the money there are some great brands out there. Hugo Boss, Theory, Rebecca Taylor, Joie, DVF, etc. what's even better is that now with the internet ALL women have access to these brands. You don't have to live in NY to find nice clothing. Again, most women don't want to pay for it. They want Zara prices. Instead you need to spend more money on clothing and have it tailored.

EXACTLY!!! Clothes used to cost more back in the day. Now you have a bunch of women buying cheap stuff from the mall and wondering why it doesn't last... um, duh!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think clothing is that bad. I think the problem is that people don't want to pay for it. They want a $40 shirt that lasts and is a nice material. If you're willing to spend the money there are some great brands out there. Hugo Boss, Theory, Rebecca Taylor, Joie, DVF, etc. what's even better is that now with the internet ALL women have access to these brands. You don't have to live in NY to find nice clothing. Again, most women don't want to pay for it. They want Zara prices. Instead you need to spend more money on clothing and have it tailored.

EXACTLY!!! Clothes used to cost more back in the day. Now you have a bunch of women buying cheap stuff from the mall and wondering why it doesn't last... um, duh!

I buy a lot from Uniqlo and it lasts for years. In my experience, we have more clothes that are higher quality available to us than before. I'm in my mid-40s - I remember the hell of having to shop at suburban department stores and malls as a teen. I feel like you're about to go on some Make Fashion Great Again rant that is all about how people in the 50s had their priorities straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think clothing is that bad. I think the problem is that people don't want to pay for it. They want a $40 shirt that lasts and is a nice material. If you're willing to spend the money there are some great brands out there. Hugo Boss, Theory, Rebecca Taylor, Joie, DVF, etc. what's even better is that now with the internet ALL women have access to these brands. You don't have to live in NY to find nice clothing. Again, most women don't want to pay for it. They want Zara prices. Instead you need to spend more money on clothing and have it tailored.

OP here, and I disagree. I gladly pay for high quality, nice fabrics and good design. I do shop at high-end stores, mixed in with department stores and chains here or there. Labels I've loved for years--including the ones you've mentioned above--really have gone downhill, with materials, lack of options (sleveless EVERYTHING), and styling. It really has.

I would happily pay. Take my money! But when you are trying to sell me Dynasty meets Little House on the Prarie, I am not biting.

Sleeveless everything is mainly at cheap clothing stores like Jcrew, h&m etc

Reiss, Theory and Rebecca Taylor all have plenty of shirts with sleeves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I lament every time a clothing item I own has to be retired because I know I can't replace it with anything decent.
-40 year old.

I have a 13-year-old pair of BR pants. They are awesome--fully lined, well-constructed, and a classic cut. They are also my motivation not to gain weight, because I cannot replace them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.anntaylor.com/the-trouser-in-tropical-wool---kate-fit/409871?skuId=23440265&defaultColor=1220&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000013

Reviews for these AT pants tell the whole story--a few years ago these tropical wool pants were 80+% wool and lined; now they are ~45% wool and unlined. WTF?

As for the people above crowing about the state of today's fashion, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The clothing being sold today, at all price points, bears no resemblance to the quality of yesteryear. There isn't a fashion writer or blogger out there who isn't lamenting the problem. So don't try to tell me it's the DC hausfrau.

Preach on pp


The Hugo Boss/Theory/Joie poster is either very young or has memory loss. Until 10 years ago you never had to go to that price point to find well made clothes. The ATs, JCrews, BRs and yes even Gap used to sell clothing made of quality material that held up multiple seasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.anntaylor.com/the-trouser-in-tropical-wool---kate-fit/409871?skuId=23440265&defaultColor=1220&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000013

Reviews for these AT pants tell the whole story--a few years ago these tropical wool pants were 80+% wool and lined; now they are ~45% wool and unlined. WTF?

As for the people above crowing about the state of today's fashion, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The clothing being sold today, at all price points, bears no resemblance to the quality of yesteryear. There isn't a fashion writer or blogger out there who isn't lamenting the problem. So don't try to tell me it's the DC hausfrau.

Preach on pp


The Hugo Boss/Theory/Joie poster is either very young or has memory loss. Until 10 years ago you never had to go to that price point to find well made clothes. The ATs, JCrews, BRs and yes even Gap used to sell clothing made of quality material that held up multiple seasons.

NP. Well ya do now. So stop crowing about it and either shell out more or wear your old hand me downs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.anntaylor.com/the-trouser-in-tropical-wool---kate-fit/409871?skuId=23440265&defaultColor=1220&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000013

Reviews for these AT pants tell the whole story--a few years ago these tropical wool pants were 80+% wool and lined; now they are ~45% wool and unlined. WTF?

As for the people above crowing about the state of today's fashion, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The clothing being sold today, at all price points, bears no resemblance to the quality of yesteryear. There isn't a fashion writer or blogger out there who isn't lamenting the problem. So don't try to tell me it's the DC hausfrau.

Preach on pp


The Hugo Boss/Theory/Joie poster is either very young or has memory loss. Until 10 years ago you never had to go to that price point to find well made clothes. The ATs, JCrews, BRs and yes even Gap used to sell clothing made of quality material that held up multiple seasons.

YEP. My old AT and BR stuff is still hanging in my closet. There is a reason I kept going back; I kept thinking they were just having an off season. My AT pants that are LINED are absolutley gorgeous, and were under $100. Now the "same" pair of pants at AT is unlined and made out of flammable, ugly material that doesn't hang well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.anntaylor.com/the-trouser-in-tropical-wool---kate-fit/409871?skuId=23440265&defaultColor=1220&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000013

Reviews for these AT pants tell the whole story--a few years ago these tropical wool pants were 80+% wool and lined; now they are ~45% wool and unlined. WTF?

As for the people above crowing about the state of today's fashion, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The clothing being sold today, at all price points, bears no resemblance to the quality of yesteryear. There isn't a fashion writer or blogger out there who isn't lamenting the problem. So don't try to tell me it's the DC hausfrau.

Preach on pp


The Hugo Boss/Theory/Joie poster is either very young or has memory loss. Until 10 years ago you never had to go to that price point to find well made clothes. The ATs, JCrews, BRs and yes even Gap used to sell clothing made of quality material that held up multiple seasons.

YEP. My old AT and BR stuff is still hanging in my closet. There is a reason I kept going back; I kept thinking they were just having an off season. My AT pants that are LINED are absolutley gorgeous, and were under $100. Now the "same" pair of pants at AT is unlined and made out of flammable, ugly material that doesn't hang well.

Okay but you guys are talking about quality NOT looks. This post started out saying it's ugly - even the nicest, most high quality designer outfit can also be ugly. So what's your complaint? Is it the quality or the appearance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You mean team fast fashion. There's a difference. And, lol, at Anne Taylor being held up as an example of fashion. Please.

Ann*

Who held it up as one? The fraus?

You do know that "frau" simply means woman, right? It's not the cutting insult that you seem to believe it to be. Unless you're a misogynist.