PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.

Bingo!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.

All DCPS schools, and some charter high schools, offer electives on how to prepare for college. These include test prep / practice as well as coaching on essays, financial aid, and so forth.

Sure, but I wonder if Walls parents are more likely to supplement with expensive SAT prep classes. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

Sometimes I wonder if there's intelligent life here on earth. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.

Size -- number of students per grade

Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger

Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker

But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.

White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).

Good start.

More differences...

-- Location/ commute
-- Alumni network
-- Attrition rate
-- Diversity (not only in terms of race, but also SES and interests/ skills)
-- Level of academic pressure

I honestly think race and privilege are a huge factor. At Banneker, a white kid does not get to benefit in any way from his race. The standards are so high that he can't even depend on the whole "my white kid will do fine anyway" mantra that some people believe. That must be just plain scary to many folks -- not only to be a very small white minority, but also to compete on even footing with black students, without being able to rely on any comparative advantages of race or class.

Are you affiliated with Banneker in any way?

If you are, here is a thought. Perhaps it's your own racist and not-very-smart words that make people with other HS options think, "why the heck would i ever go there"

I'm not the person you quoted, but I thought this person made some great points that I hadn't thought of or heard before. I bet a lot of parents wouldn't realize it to even articulate it in this manner, but subconsciously it probably boils down to this for a lot of White families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.

Size -- number of students per grade

Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger

Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker

But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.

White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).

Good start.

More differences...

-- Location/ commute
-- Alumni network
-- Attrition rate
-- Diversity (not only in terms of race, but also SES and interests/ skills)
-- Level of academic pressure

I honestly think race and privilege are a huge factor. At Banneker, a white kid does not get to benefit in any way from his race. The standards are so high that he can't even depend on the whole "my white kid will do fine anyway" mantra that some people believe. That must be just plain scary to many folks -- not only to be a very small white minority, but also to compete on even footing with black students, without being able to rely on any comparative advantages of race or class.

I honestly think you're speculating very broadly on motives you don't necessarily understand or appreciate. I absolutely believe white privilege does exist so consider me not dismissive. Banneker's status as a Title I school may have more impact for some families than race alone. I wouldn't consider KIPP for any number of reasons even if it offers some reasonably successful schools. It has absolutely nothing to do with KIPP's negligible white student population. Ultimately each white family knows their individual child and their abilities. No one thinks a child will succeed on skin color alone, even if it conveys competitive advantages in some settings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.

All DCPS schools, and some charter high schools, offer electives on how to prepare for college. These include test prep / practice as well as coaching on essays, financial aid, and so forth.

Sure, but I wonder if Walls parents are more likely to supplement with expensive SAT prep classes. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

Sometimes I wonder if there's intelligent life here on earth. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

What is the purpose of being rude and disrespectful? If you don't agree fine, but your response is really uncalled for. (I think) we are all adults here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.

All DCPS schools, and some charter high schools, offer electives on how to prepare for college. These include test prep / practice as well as coaching on essays, financial aid, and so forth.

Sure, but I wonder if Walls parents are more likely to supplement with expensive SAT prep classes. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

Sometimes I wonder if there's intelligent life here on earth. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

What is the purpose of being rude and disrespectful? If you don't agree fine, but your response is really uncalled for. (I think) we are all adults here.

The purpose is to make the poster above aware of her ridicule attitude. She asked a question, someone answered it perfectly well. Next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.

All DCPS schools, and some charter high schools, offer electives on how to prepare for college. These include test prep / practice as well as coaching on essays, financial aid, and so forth.

Sure, but I wonder if Walls parents are more likely to supplement with expensive SAT prep classes. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

Sometimes I wonder if there's intelligent life here on earth. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

What is the purpose of being rude and disrespectful? If you don't agree fine, but your response is really uncalled for. (I think) we are all adults here.

The purpose is to make the poster above aware of her ridicule attitude. She asked a question, someone answered it perfectly well. Next.

Well since we are being petty, there was no question asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.

All DCPS schools, and some charter high schools, offer electives on how to prepare for college. These include test prep / practice as well as coaching on essays, financial aid, and so forth.

Sure, but I wonder if Walls parents are more likely to supplement with expensive SAT prep classes. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

Sometimes I wonder if there's intelligent life here on earth. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

What is the purpose of being rude and disrespectful? If you don't agree fine, but your response is really uncalled for. (I think) we are all adults here.

The purpose is to make the poster above aware of her ridicule attitude. She asked a question, someone answered it perfectly well. Next.

Well since we are being petty, there was no question asked.

Some intelligent life form did identify "how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls" as a question.

That answers, and closes, my previous query.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the leading Capitol Hill-area elementary schools (% Language Arts, Math at or above proficiency standard):

SWS 66/63
Brent 61/61
Maury 44/44
Ludlow Taylor 42/40
Two Rivers 43/40
Watkins 30/39
Jo Wilson 24/35

This is pretty consistent with recent years and not surprising based purely on SES levels in the testing grades at each school.
Interesting that Maury and Ludlow Taylor are essentially the same at this point.
Two Rivers and Watkins are also in the same general range as Maury and LT.

Why is Two Rivers listed as a Cap Hill school? It's not located on Cap Hill and it's a charter school. Please don't misrepresent the data.

It is listed as a Capitol Hill-area school of interest to the poster. If you live on the Hill, this is the list of schools that are on most families' radar at some point. It's not "misrepresenting data" to include Two Rivers esp. if families are often comparing the charter alternatives to their own neighborhood schools. I'm inbound for LT with a toddler, and given these scores, less likely to put 2R on my lottery list if there's not some dramatically better outcome to be had. Happy to take the IB slot.

Looks like Two Rivers scores include both elementary and middle - if you look at elementary grades only, they're in the 50s. 3rd grade is 58/52, and so on. Middle school drops down, as all/most? middle schools do, so the overall average is lower. So if the above Hill schools are showing elementary scores only, Two Rivers is closer to SWS/Maury.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the leading Capitol Hill-area elementary schools (% Language Arts, Math at or above proficiency standard):

SWS 66/63
Brent 61/61
Maury 44/44
Ludlow Taylor 42/40
Two Rivers 43/40
Watkins 30/39
Jo Wilson 24/35

This is pretty consistent with recent years and not surprising based purely on SES levels in the testing grades at each school.
Interesting that Maury and Ludlow Taylor are essentially the same at this point.
Two Rivers and Watkins are also in the same general range as Maury and LT.

Why is Two Rivers listed as a Cap Hill school? It's not located on Cap Hill and it's a charter school. Please don't misrepresent the data.

It is listed as a Capitol Hill-area school of interest to the poster. If you live on the Hill, this is the list of schools that are on most families' radar at some point. It's not "misrepresenting data" to include Two Rivers esp. if families are often comparing the charter alternatives to their own neighborhood schools. I'm inbound for LT with a toddler, and given these scores, less likely to put 2R on my lottery list if there's not some dramatically better outcome to be had. Happy to take the IB slot.

Looks like Two Rivers scores include both elementary and middle - if you look at elementary grades only, they're in the 50s. 3rd grade is 58/52, and so on. Middle school drops down, as all/most? middle schools do, so the overall average is lower. So if the above Hill schools are showing elementary scores only, Two Rivers is closer to SWS/Maury.

*closer to SWS/Brent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Differences between Banneker, WIlson, SWW.

Size -- number of students per grade

Facilities -- Banneker has not been renovated; other schools are larger

Extracurriculars/sports -- Wilson stronger than either SWW or Banneker

But I agree that familiarity and racism is a huge factor. There is a strong tradition among AA families to send their children to Banneker and there's a growing Latino presence.

White families haven't jumped in yet but I suspect they may, eventually. Remember that Wash Latin, which is now very popular among white families, graduated few white families who were leery of its high school (it was seem as ok for middle but then they went private/Wilson/SWW).

Good start.

More differences...

-- Location/ commute
-- Alumni network
-- Attrition rate
-- Diversity (not only in terms of race, but also SES and interests/ skills)
-- Level of academic pressure

I honestly think race and privilege are a huge factor. At Banneker, a white kid does not get to benefit in any way from his race. The standards are so high that he can't even depend on the whole "my white kid will do fine anyway" mantra that some people believe. That must be just plain scary to many folks -- not only to be a very small white minority, but also to compete on even footing with black students, without being able to rely on any comparative advantages of race or class.

Are you affiliated with Banneker in any way?

If you are, here is a thought. Perhaps it's your own racist and not-very-smart words that make people with other HS options think, "why the heck would i ever go there"

When will you stop with the reverse racism crap? It won't get you far beyond your little alt-right world.

[Anonymous]

OSSE says 47% of Banneker students are economically disadvantaged and teh DCPS school profile pages list 15% FARMS.

I don't think that's going to qualify it as a Title I school.

Not mentioning this to take anything away from Banneker's results -- however it's not as 'poor' as many white families assume.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being that Banneker is a title 1 school it would be interesting to know how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls.

All DCPS schools, and some charter high schools, offer electives on how to prepare for college. These include test prep / practice as well as coaching on essays, financial aid, and so forth.

Sure, but I wonder if Walls parents are more likely to supplement with expensive SAT prep classes. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

Sometimes I wonder if there's intelligent life here on earth. No idea if this is true, just throwing out a thought for consideration.

What is the purpose of being rude and disrespectful? If you don't agree fine, but your response is really uncalled for. (I think) we are all adults here.

The purpose is to make the poster above aware of her ridicule attitude. She asked a question, someone answered it perfectly well. Next.

Well since we are being petty, there was no question asked.

Some intelligent life form did identify "how many kids are taking SAT prep courses as compared to Walls" as a question.

That answers, and closes, my previous query.

That wasn't the last quote being responded to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OSSE says 47% of Banneker students are economically disadvantaged and teh DCPS school profile pages list 15% FARMS.

I don't think that's going to qualify it as a Title I school.

Not mentioning this to take anything away from Banneker's results -- however it's not as 'poor' as many white families assume.

No idea if the DCPS website is kept up to date but they list them as a Title 1 school.

[Anonymous]

My guess is that most white parents don't send their kids to Banneker because they fear their child would be the odd man out in terms of race, and they worry about the challenges (mostly social) that that could pose, especially in a time as socially-challenging as High School. I'm not saying I agree with this reasoning, and of course many AAs have dealt with this exact issue....