What’s the point of redshirting when it cancels out the pride factor?

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

You are so weird. I don’t even know how to respond to this insane mess.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

June-August ARE young for the grade. Some areas, especially those that start and end school early (done by Memorial Day) are moving to a 7/31 cutoff BTW. As our school years start earlier and earlier, you might see it here too.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

June-August ARE young for the grade. Some areas, especially those that start and end school early (done by Memorial Day) are moving to a 7/31 cutoff BTW. As our school years start earlier and earlier, you might see it here too.

+1. When I was growing up our cutoff bounced between July 1 and August 1.

It’s weird to think that just because the school district says September 30, that means that everyone before that date is the “right” age for their grade, no debate or questions.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

June-August ARE young for the grade. Some areas, especially those that start and end school early (done by Memorial Day) are moving to a 7/31 cutoff BTW. As our school years start earlier and earlier, you might see it here too.

+1. When I was growing up our cutoff bounced between July 1 and August 1.

It’s weird to think that just because the school district says September 30, that means that everyone before that date is the “right” age for their grade, no debate or questions.

It wasn’t around here. The point of grades is for age appropriate peer groups.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

June-August ARE young for the grade. Some areas, especially those that start and end school early (done by Memorial Day) are moving to a 7/31 cutoff BTW. As our school years start earlier and earlier, you might see it here too.

No, they aren’t. They are age appropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

You are so weird. I don’t even know how to respond to this insane mess.

You are weird to hold back your kid and not get them into therapies. A good preschool and parents failed to prepare them.

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Kids who are the youngest in their class aren’t going to get discounts on cars and houses when they grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

June-August ARE young for the grade. Some areas, especially those that start and end school early (done by Memorial Day) are moving to a 7/31 cutoff BTW. As our school years start earlier and earlier, you might see it here too.

+1. When I was growing up our cutoff bounced between July 1 and August 1.

It’s weird to think that just because the school district says September 30, that means that everyone before that date is the “right” age for their grade, no debate or questions.

It wasn’t around here. The point of grades is for age appropriate peer groups.

It wasn’t around here, no, but who cares? That’s not relevant to this discussion.

You seem to think that a kid who just turned 5 in August or September is somehow not age appropriate if they wait a year. But they are no further in age from the other kids in the grade than if they started “on time,” just on the older side now instead of the younger side previously.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

June-August ARE young for the grade. Some areas, especially those that start and end school early (done by Memorial Day) are moving to a 7/31 cutoff BTW. As our school years start earlier and earlier, you might see it here too.

No they aren’t young for their grade. Down South they start earlier so 7/31 might work for them. We start after Labor Day so September makes sense to turn 5.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are the youngest in their class aren’t going to get discounts on cars and houses when they grow up.

What does this mean?

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

June-August ARE young for the grade. Some areas, especially those that start and end school early (done by Memorial Day) are moving to a 7/31 cutoff BTW. As our school years start earlier and earlier, you might see it here too.

+1. When I was growing up our cutoff bounced between July 1 and August 1.

It’s weird to think that just because the school district says September 30, that means that everyone before that date is the “right” age for their grade, no debate or questions.

It wasn’t around here. The point of grades is for age appropriate peer groups.

It wasn’t around here, no, but who cares? That’s not relevant to this discussion.

You seem to think that a kid who just turned 5 in August or September is somehow not age appropriate if they wait a year. But they are no further in age from the other kids in the grade than if they started “on time,” just on the older side now instead of the younger side previously.

If it’s before the cut off, no. They are over a year older than many kids.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

You are so weird. I don’t even know how to respond to this insane mess.

You are weird to hold back your kid and not get them into therapies. A good preschool and parents failed to prepare them.

I didn’t redshirt, you absolute brick. All my kids went on time.

I see what people mean when they say DCUM anti-redshirters are crazy. WOW.

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Anonymous wrote:We held back or DS at pre-K. Applied for him to attend a school as either pre-k or k, and he was admitted for pre-k. We decided to take the offer as we loved the school and I liked the idea of his being home an extra year and his having his license to drive on the early side. He’s now a junior in college and all turned out well.

He’d have his license on the later side if he went on time. My young for the grade does not get their license till the end of junior year.

Wait, what? Did your child skip a grade? Or are you in NJ (only state with license at 17)? I have a true young-for-grade kid (late spring birthday, sent on time) and my kid could get a full license by late spring of sophomore year. I don’t understand how the bolded works.

No, in md you cannot get your license till 16.5. So, if you have a fall birthday that puts you in the spring. Do the math. Was your child held back?

I can see how a young for grade kid could not be eligible for a license until end of junior year but it would be a pretty unusual set of circumstances: a state with a late license age (16.5 or 17), a very late fall kindergarten cutoff, and a child born exactly at the cutoff.

If the PP in MD had a kid born Aug 30 (cutoff is Sept 1 in MD) and sent on time then that kid could get her license earliest March 1, age 16.5. So, not quite end of junior year as the PP said, but getting there.

My kid is currently a sophomore in HS. Young for grade, sent on time. Will turn 16 in late June, is currently 15. Our state is 16 for licenses so my kid will have a license this summer and all of junior year.

So, I think it is theoretically possible for a young for grade kid who is sent on time to not be DL-eligible until end of junior year, but it’s probably not a very common occurrence.

In MD you can test in through 10-15. Be accurate. Your child is not young for the grade. They are a normal age for a sophomore. My sophomore does not turn 16 till the fall. So, after April and that is basically the end of the year.

Testing in is unusual. So, your kid not belong eligible for a license until latest April 15 is indeed a rare situation.

Also it is so extremely odd that you believe all DCUM posters have the exact cutoff as MD. So weird.

Other schools in the area are 9/30 so September kids are on time. It’s not unusual at all for kids to test in or got to private k-1st and then transfer to public. Only rich families, it’s generally hold their kids back to get into the privates. The privates cannot handle age appropriate kids which speaks volumes of their schools. I don’t know any summer birthdays in public who were held back a year. Only kids I know held back had severe special needs and they did it to get into more private therapies.

June-August kids are not young for the grade and are supposed to be in that grade.

June-August ARE young for the grade. Some areas, especially those that start and end school early (done by Memorial Day) are moving to a 7/31 cutoff BTW. As our school years start earlier and earlier, you might see it here too.

+1. When I was growing up our cutoff bounced between July 1 and August 1.

It’s weird to think that just because the school district says September 30, that means that everyone before that date is the “right” age for their grade, no debate or questions.

It wasn’t around here. The point of grades is for age appropriate peer groups.

It wasn’t around here, no, but who cares? That’s not relevant to this discussion.

You seem to think that a kid who just turned 5 in August or September is somehow not age appropriate if they wait a year. But they are no further in age from the other kids in the grade than if they started “on time,” just on the older side now instead of the younger side previously.

If it’s before the cut off, no. They are over a year older than many kids.

Sigh. You seem unaware of how a calendar works.

If you have a kid who turns 5 on September 30 and that’s the cut off, they will be just as close in age to the kids in the “current” grade as the kids in next year’s grade. It’s just that now they will be among the oldest in the class, rather than the youngest. But the “distance” from their classmates is not different. If this kid waits a year and turns 6 on September 30, he will be closer in age to all of the kids turning 6 from October to March than he would have been had he gone a year earlier (where he would have been closer in age to the kids turning 6 from March-September). It’s not somehow age inappropriate.

Now the more you walk this date up, the more the kid becomes closer in age to the current class instead of the next year’s class. But it’s still not like there is some huge imbalance if the kid is born on September 1 or August 15 or the like.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are very reasonable reasons to consider redshirting but as with anything it gets ruined by the people on the fringes. I have a friend with a super intelligent child with a July birthday who redshirted their child due to immaturity (questionable in my book given his ability). So you now have a super intelligent kid who probably would have been ahead of grade level now effectively 2 grade levels ahead - how to teach this variance in ability is really a massive challenge and difficult.

It’s not that unusual to teach kids that are several grades in ability apart. Just look at any state testing results. The kids that are 2-3 grades ahead do outside enrichment, tutoring, academic work with their parents etc. Teachers may give them some differentiated work but the focus is on the struggling kids and the teaching is to the middle of the class.

You’re not much of a friend if you’re questioning your friend’s parenting decisions.