I tipped over the line this week and can’t support Biden

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don’t vote for Biden now it will be the last election in which you get a choice in the matter at all.

Please stop with these hollow threats. Fear mongering has never led to positive results. Please tell your candidate to appear more appealing to the traditionally Democratic voting cohort or lose his job. I’m voting third party because I am voting my conscience.

Fear mongering may not lead to positive results in the long term but it does work as an effective political tool to keep voters in line. There are Fox News and MSNBC anchors that are paid very, very well to make sure R and D voters remain R and D voters and stoking irrational fears based on half-truths is a big part of their act. There are tens of millions of people that tune in to these garbage shows every night to get their "news" and many of these people fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

It isn't fear-mongering when one of the candidates already tried a coup and failed and is running again with the promise of a police states, pardoning the insurrectionists and installing a Christo-Fascist theocracy. But "they are both the same" or something, right?

[Anonymous]

I’m with you OP, but I’m sitting it out for different reasons, primarily the fact that Biden administration is using its platform to peddle unscientific nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Open borders means a hard no for me. If Biden simply stopped the insanity at the border I’d bite for him.

He supports the border bill that trump tanked. Trump has no intention or plan for immigration. He is full of bull.

Trump is a pulling a Reagan (Iran hostages), and using this country as a pawn so that he can get re-elected to boost his ego. It's *always* about his ego.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Open borders means a hard no for me. If Biden simply stopped the insanity at the border I’d bite for him.

He supports the border bill that trump tanked. Trump has no intention or plan for immigration. He is full of bull.

Trump is a pulling a Reagan (Iran hostages), and using this country as a pawn so that he can get re-elected to boost his ego. It's *always* about his ego.

I don't think it's going to work?

Also, boy, I have a visceral reaction to comparing Trump and Reagan - and let me tell you, I was no fan of Reagan, but it makes me want to puke even seeing their names in the same sentence. Trump is a rotted pustule who's trying to poison us all. I just really strongly disagreed with Reagan's goals and positions, but I don't think he wanted to flush the whole thing down the toilet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m with you OP, but I’m sitting it out for different reasons, primarily the fact that Biden administration is using its platform to peddle unscientific nonsense.

In other words you don’t vote Democratic any way but you dislike Trump so ,I h you’re just not going to vote republican this time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

Are you saying you don’t believe in asylum? If so then be honest and state that outright.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I have always been a straight Democratic voter and don’t even look at which republicans are running. But this country is a mess! The billions sent to wars abroad with no regard to solving our problems at home, the open borders with millions crossing every year, the lack of investing in public education….it’s an epic disaster.

In other words you are an Isolationist. Doesn’t sound like the Democratic platform for the past 75 years.

NP. People who disregard others because their ideas don’t tidily fit into HS civics/MSM narratives deserve to see their politics fail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

Are you saying you don’t believe in asylum? If so then be honest and state that outright.

Give me a break. The vast majority of illegals flooding in are making fake claims of asylum and claim it only because it is magic get out of jail free card. Go read up on all of the Chinese flooding in now from Mexico - the major reason they're coming is for economic opportunities because their economy stinks back home. They'll claim 'asylum' of course, but I'm reality just want jobs. Providing the entire world with jobs and a high standard of living is not our responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) Do you want your children or grandchildren to inherit a democracy?

2) Do you want to enable Putin to run over the Baltics like Hitler?

3) Biden is becoming more and more vocal, trying to reign in Netanyahu. We don’t control other countries.

We don't have to support Israel and give it money.

Why do you care more about Palestinians than Americans?

Israel is a net drain on the US. They are also committing a genocide and other war crimes. They make it easy to cut them off.

Why won’t Biden do it? Because he (like all Zionists) has dehumanized Palestinians so thoroughly that he thinks it’s just “mowing the grass.”

I always knew Biden and Blinken were Zionists who listen more to Israelis than to Palestinians. What I did NOT know was that they also listen more to Israel than to their own base.

I want Biden in The Hague. Of course I’m not voting for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

Are you saying you don’t believe in asylum? If so then be honest and state that outright.

Give me a break. The vast majority of illegals flooding in are making fake claims of asylum and claim it only because it is magic get out of jail free card. Go read up on all of the Chinese flooding in now from Mexico - the major reason they're coming is for economic opportunities because their economy stinks back home. They'll claim 'asylum' of course, but I'm reality just want jobs. Providing the entire world with jobs and a high standard of living is not our responsibility.

Some of them have even stated that they are coming for jobs and "for a better life."
Truth is, we don't know why they are really coming and if they are agents of the CCP. 20,000 just this fiscal year alone - and we aren't even half through the year.
People are not free just to leave China. The CCP knows these people are here. And, they are predominantly miltary aged men. And, unable to be vetted.
Joe doesn't care.

[Anonymous]

I’m with you OP. Biden is a full fledged Zionust that is lockstep with Bibi and genocide. I’m out as well.

Female, mid 40’s POC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden was also a staunch supporter of the invasion of Iraq. How did that turn out?

There is a growing list of places that were unquestionably better off when Trump was president:

Israel/Palestine
Ukraine
Afghanistan
Yemen
Our southern border

Not sure about Afghanistan with the Mother of all Bombs Trump exploded that probably helped the Taliban take over power in 2021 and lead to our humiliating withdrawal under Biden. A mother of all bombs (whatever that God forsaken thing even is-the first one we ever launched apparently ) certainly wouldn’t make one lean toward an America friendly government . He pushed them to Russia.

He certainly he didn’t help Yemen by giving weapons to the Saudis . He didn’t build any wall on the Southern border. If anything, the strict rules and ICE watchdogs led to a 4 year backlog for migrants during his term and during COVID crushing world economies that meant an even bigger sea of migrants pouring in now and it would’ve happened even if we had a Republican administration currently .

Inflation is also Trumps fault for spending money and printing money like it was going out of style .

Gaza is also his fault. His scammer son in law is childhood friends with Bibi and so the Trump admin let Bibi and Israel go haywire with the settlements, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and just overall killings in the West Bank. Because the Us government didn’t provide the usual stick to Israel and instead Trump gave them a carrot, Netanyahu got power drunk : something Trump even acknowledges. Trumps free pass to Israel definitely led to 10/7 Especially coming from the frigid Obama years where Israel wouldn’t get away with half the things they did like the embassy, and the killing of Palestinian Americans so easily.

The afghan pullout was a blunder of epic proportions.

Bidens border crisis is a disaster . Besides housing illegals in schools and denying students the opportunity to go to schools earlier this year they’re now putting them in VA facilities and using that for illegals and still denying care to vets who need it

Then you need to understand how and why the Afghan pullout happened like it did, and suggest ways it could have been better.
1) Trump closed the state department office that processed special visas like the ones needed for our Afghan friends who were deserted.
2) Trump and Pompeo negotiated a pull out date with the Taliban directly, not the Afghan government
3) Trump pulled out much of our military infrastructure before leaving office.
4) Trump and Pompeo released over 5,000 Taliban fighters before leaving office.

A a result, our Afghan friends could not get visas in a timely manner, not matter how quickly Biden reopened the office (which he did on Jan 20, 2021) our military was a shell of its former presence, the Afghan government was non-existant and we had to fight off a larger force than necessary to even execute as was done with the airlift. Remember, Trump wanted to pull out before he left office, which would have been an even bigger disaster.

The border is bad and has been for decades. That isn't a Biden thing. On thee occasions over the past 30 years, democrats have tried to address the issue legislatively, to give the White House the tools and resources necessary to deal with it effectively, but the GOP bailed on that legislation every time. Why? And yes, there are resources needed to deal with the migrants who are here and who are coming, unless you just want humans dying in the streets, which seems sub-optimal.

The border bill wasn’t a border bill. It still allowed thousands of illegals in every day .

Because if the Biden border crisis we’re seeing more than ever before. The fact the Biden regime is using the VA to give care to illegals for free and alliwing Then to stay in hotels for months whine vets can’t get the proper care because the VA is a mess shows he’s out of touch with the American voter.

The Biden economy has taken a toll on the American population and thanks to Bidenomics inflation is going back up again. 3% rise in prices last month alone.

Bumbling stumbling dementia Joe has run the place into the ground

This is false. See the MANY Senator Lankford comments on how this is a total lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) Do you want your children or grandchildren to inherit a democracy?

2) Do you want to enable Putin to run over the Baltics like Hitler?

3) Biden is becoming more and more vocal, trying to reign in Netanyahu. We don’t control other countries.

We don't have to support Israel and give it money.

Why do you care more about Palestinians than Americans?

Israel is a net drain on the US. They are also committing a genocide and other war crimes. They make it easy to cut them off.

Why won’t Biden do it? Because he (like all Zionists) has dehumanized Palestinians so thoroughly that he thinks it’s just “mowing the grass.”

I always knew Biden and Blinken were Zionists who listen more to Israelis than to Palestinians. What I did NOT know was that they also listen more to Israel than to their own base.

I want Biden in The Hague. Of course I’m not voting for him.

Again, why do you care more about Palestinians than Americans?

Biden is obviously better for Americans than Trump.

And yet, you're willing to sacrifice Americans (especially the most vulnerable Americans) to promote Palestinian interests?

That's quite literally anti-American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m with you OP. Biden is a full fledged Zionust that is lockstep with Bibi and genocide. I’m out as well.

Female, mid 40’s POC

You are to MAGA what Biden is to Bibi.