2023 Election Day Results Thread

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Honestly, you and others should read it (gift link):

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/04/opinion/sunday/glenn-youngkin-virginia-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.80w.4CzO.yTFgqYbU16P9&smid=url-share

It's not so much cheerleading for Youngkin as describing the space he could succeed in.

So much for that guy! His national aspirations are toast after sticking his name all over this campaign - in an off/off election year for VA - and then losing the legislature.

I do think that if Youngkin RINOs up and distances himself from MAGA, he could come back. But he clearly doesn’t have great political instincts. Going full MAGA was never going to work in VA.

But here's the thing, he is MAGA. Not sure why you think he isn't -- he's a one hit wonder who got lucky with his stupid fleece vest

THIS. Tons of MAGA are white, well off middle aged men. I recall a maps showing where insurrectionist came from. Lost from blue states/ areas. They aren’t all hicks. They are doctors, finance, dentists. Lots of dentists.

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Anonymous wrote:Moderate Democrat here. The more I read these results, the more delighted I am. Biden’s moderate approach to Israel didn’t siphon off voters despite what all the far left was screaming about. Banning trans healthcare for kids didn’t win, and I say this as someone who thinks medicalized transition for children is a serious medical scandal but who also feels very strongly that it’s extremely inappropriate for legislators to interfere with medical care (including abortion). Abortion rights were a huge winner and I was afraid that issue had faded out of view. J6 wasn’t diminished in importance. Election deniers lost badly. Youngkin was rebuffed squarely in his attempt to become more MAGA and will hopefully return to being a RINO Republican and then eventually lose entirely (I think he is smarmy).

Essentially these results are an endorsement of some badly needed moderates. It’s a relief.

Your posting twin said the same thing a few pages back and I’ll say the same thing in reply to you: the extremist GOP worldview is being repudiated. You don’t need to both sides this, people just don’t want what the GOP is pushing.

One might think the media would get a clue after today but I’m not holding my breath.

No, they want the GOP back. They know what they’re doing, and they’re going to keep glooming and dooming for the Democrats, no matter what Biden does, how popular Democratic policies are or how Democrats do at the polls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:😁

Honestly, you and others should read it (gift link):

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/04/opinion/sunday/glenn-youngkin-virginia-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.80w.4CzO.yTFgqYbU16P9&smid=url-share

It's not so much cheerleading for Youngkin as describing the space he could succeed in.

So much for that guy! His national aspirations are toast after sticking his name all over this campaign - in an off/off election year for VA - and then losing the legislature.

I do think that if Youngkin RINOs up and distances himself from MAGA, he could come back. But he clearly doesn’t have great political instincts. Going full MAGA was never going to work in VA.

But here's the thing, he is MAGA. Not sure why you think he isn't -- he's a one hit wonder who got lucky with his stupid fleece vest

THIS. Tons of MAGA are white, well off middle aged men. I recall a maps showing where insurrectionist came from. Lost from blue states/ areas. They aren’t all hicks. They are doctors, finance, dentists. Lots of dentists.

Youngkin won last time on a combination of a bad opponent and suburban frustration about delayed school reopening after COVID. His endorsed candidates have been losing ever since. Lots of people I know in Northern Virginia (where I live) were not excited about McAuliffe and also felt like Nova and Virginia were sufficiently blue to keep everything that way. Youngkin's election woke them up to the fact that their vote still matters. Youngkin was able fluke, not movement.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to win your home state to be president. I just hope Glen still runs

He is done. Every state where abortion has been on the ballot has voted to uphold abortion rights. He is on record as wanting to take away bodily autonomy. Move on.

Besides, I’m not seeing a situation where Trump voters choose him over Trump in the primary.

His only hope is Trump wins and makes him like secretary of the treasury or some shit like that.

If, god forbid, trump wins next year, he is going to surround himself only with mega maga absolute loyalists and he is not loyalist enough

My Wash Post page is acting up for me this a.m. but there is a post about this. It claims a) Trumps odds of winning are increasing and b) the plans being OPENLY discussed by him/his advisors and which are plainly fascist.

This includes purging govt workers and installing those who are loyal to him, invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protests, and more. As well as pardoning and apologizing to those convicted of J6 insurrection.

He is TELLING US he will try to dismantle our democracy. Y'all need to listen to him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:😁

Honestly, you and others should read it (gift link):

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/04/opinion/sunday/glenn-youngkin-virginia-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.80w.4CzO.yTFgqYbU16P9&smid=url-share

It's not so much cheerleading for Youngkin as describing the space he could succeed in.

So much for that guy! His national aspirations are toast after sticking his name all over this campaign - in an off/off election year for VA - and then losing the legislature.

I do think that if Youngkin RINOs up and distances himself from MAGA, he could come back. But he clearly doesn’t have great political instincts. Going full MAGA was never going to work in VA.

But here's the thing, he is MAGA. Not sure why you think he isn't -- he's a one hit wonder who got lucky with his stupid fleece vest

THIS. Tons of MAGA are white, well off middle aged men. I recall a maps showing where insurrectionist came from. Lost from blue states/ areas. They aren’t all hicks. They are doctors, finance, dentists. Lots of dentists.

Youngkin won last time on a combination of a bad opponent and suburban frustration about delayed school reopening after COVID. His endorsed candidates have been losing ever since. Lots of people I know in Northern Virginia (where I live) were not excited about McAuliffe and also felt like Nova and Virginia were sufficiently blue to keep everything that way. Youngkin's election woke them up to the fact that their vote still matters. Youngkin was able fluke, not movement.

Yes, it feels like he caught lightning in a bottle or drew an inside straight flush. The red wave in Virginia seems to be more of a bump in the road back to moderation. Maybe the GOP will start learning some lessons here, but I doubt it.

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I am going to vote against the party that tries to take abortion right away, women have fought VERY hard for every single one of their rights and we are not giving them away just like that.

I don’t care about economy, border etc if I or my daughter don’t even have body autonomy. I don’t want my daughter to live with a repressive government. I left a country with many restrictions on women and I am acutely aware that nothing trumps freedom.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to win your home state to be president. I just hope Glen still runs

He is done. Every state where abortion has been on the ballot has voted to uphold abortion rights. He is on record as wanting to take away bodily autonomy. Move on.

Besides, I’m not seeing a situation where Trump voters choose him over Trump in the primary.

His only hope is Trump wins and makes him like secretary of the treasury or some shit like that.

If, god forbid, trump wins next year, he is going to surround himself only with mega maga absolute loyalists and he is not loyalist enough

My Wash Post page is acting up for me this a.m. but there is a post about this. It claims a) Trumps odds of winning are increasing and b) the plans being OPENLY discussed by him/his advisors and which are plainly fascist.

This includes purging govt workers and installing those who are loyal to him, invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protests, and more. As well as pardoning and apologizing to those convicted of J6 insurrection.

He is TELLING US he will try to dismantle our democracy. Y'all need to listen to him.

Reminds me of the story of the little girl going to visit her grandmother on a very cold and snowy morning. She comes across a snake who begs her to put him under her coat so he won't freeze to death. She tells him. "No. You're a snake and you'll bite me.". The snake then promises her that he won't bite. Being a compassionate little girl she puts the snake under her coat and ten minutes later she feels his fangs biting her.

"But you promised that you wouldn't bite me " she said. "You knew what I was when you picked me up, " the snake replied.

We all know what Trump and the MAGAs are!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to win your home state to be president. I just hope Glen still runs

He is done. Every state where abortion has been on the ballot has voted to uphold abortion rights. He is on record as wanting to take away bodily autonomy. Move on.

Besides, I’m not seeing a situation where Trump voters choose him over Trump in the primary.

His only hope is Trump wins and makes him like secretary of the treasury or some shit like that.

If, god forbid, trump wins next year, he is going to surround himself only with mega maga absolute loyalists and he is not loyalist enough

My Wash Post page is acting up for me this a.m. but there is a post about this. It claims a) Trumps odds of winning are increasing and b) the plans being OPENLY discussed by him/his advisors and which are plainly fascist.

This includes purging govt workers and installing those who are loyal to him, invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protests, and more. As well as pardoning and apologizing to those convicted of J6 insurrection.

He is TELLING US he will try to dismantle our democracy. Y'all need to listen to him.

Reminds me of the story of the little girl going to visit her grandmother on a very cold and snowy morning. She comes across a snake who begs her to put him under her coat so he won't freeze to death. She tells him. "No. You're a snake and you'll bite me.". The snake then promises her that he won't bite. Being a compassionate little girl she puts the snake under her coat and ten minutes later she feels his fangs biting her.

"But you promised that you wouldn't bite me " she said. "You knew what I was when you picked me up, " the snake replied.

We all know what Trump and the MAGAs are!

Amen!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Moderate Democrat here. The more I read these results, the more delighted I am. Biden’s moderate approach to Israel didn’t siphon off voters despite what all the far left was screaming about. Banning trans healthcare for kids didn’t win, and I say this as someone who thinks medicalized transition for children is a serious medical scandal but who also feels very strongly that it’s extremely inappropriate for legislators to interfere with medical care (including abortion). Abortion rights were a huge winner and I was afraid that issue had faded out of view. J6 wasn’t diminished in importance. Election deniers lost badly. Youngkin was rebuffed squarely in his attempt to become more MAGA and will hopefully return to being a RINO Republican and then eventually lose entirely (I think he is smarmy).

Essentially these results are an endorsement of some badly needed moderates. It’s a relief.

Your posting twin said the same thing a few pages back and I’ll say the same thing in reply to you: the extremist GOP worldview is being repudiated. You don’t need to both sides this, people just don’t want what the GOP is pushing.

One might think the media would get a clue after today but I’m not holding my breath.

On 538.

Democrats had a great night!

Here’s why it’s bad for the Democrats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to win your home state to be president. I just hope Glen still runs

He is done. Every state where abortion has been on the ballot has voted to uphold abortion rights. He is on record as wanting to take away bodily autonomy. Move on.

Besides, I’m not seeing a situation where Trump voters choose him over Trump in the primary.

His only hope is Trump wins and makes him like secretary of the treasury or some shit like that.

If, god forbid, trump wins next year, he is going to surround himself only with mega maga absolute loyalists and he is not loyalist enough

My Wash Post page is acting up for me this a.m. but there is a post about this. It claims a) Trumps odds of winning are increasing and b) the plans being OPENLY discussed by him/his advisors and which are plainly fascist.

This includes purging govt workers and installing those who are loyal to him, invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protests, and more. As well as pardoning and apologizing to those convicted of J6 insurrection.

He is TELLING US he will try to dismantle our democracy. Y'all need to listen to him.

Reminds me of the story of the little girl going to visit her grandmother on a very cold and snowy morning. She comes across a snake who begs her to put him under her coat so he won't freeze to death. She tells him. "No. You're a snake and you'll bite me.". The snake then promises her that he won't bite. Being a compassionate little girl she puts the snake under her coat and ten minutes later she feels his fangs biting her.

"But you promised that you wouldn't bite me " she said. "You knew what I was when you picked me up, " the snake replied.

We all know what Trump and the MAGAs are!

💯% - We did not take his delusional buffoonery and conman lies seriously In 2016 - it would be comical if it was not so serious - let us not make that mistake again .

Trump is a snake and a deadly one who brought US democracy to its knees. Sadly, his cult Members are not willing to take the anti venom (educating themselves about all the facts and evidence that contradict his endless lies and manipulations).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to win your home state to be president. I just hope Glen still runs

He is done. Every state where abortion has been on the ballot has voted to uphold abortion rights. He is on record as wanting to take away bodily autonomy. Move on.

Besides, I’m not seeing a situation where Trump voters choose him over Trump in the primary.

His only hope is Trump wins and makes him like secretary of the treasury or some shit like that.

If, god forbid, trump wins next year, he is going to surround himself only with mega maga absolute loyalists and he is not loyalist enough

My Wash Post page is acting up for me this a.m. but there is a post about this. It claims a) Trumps odds of winning are increasing and b) the plans being OPENLY discussed by him/his advisors and which are plainly fascist.

This includes purging govt workers and installing those who are loyal to him, invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protests, and more. As well as pardoning and apologizing to those convicted of J6 insurrection.

He is TELLING US he will try to dismantle our democracy. Y'all need to listen to him.

Not PP but pretty sure this is the article he/she is referring to. “Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.” Gift link: https://wapo.st/45ZpwdT

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to win your home state to be president. I just hope Glen still runs

He is done. Every state where abortion has been on the ballot has voted to uphold abortion rights. He is on record as wanting to take away bodily autonomy. Move on.

Besides, I’m not seeing a situation where Trump voters choose him over Trump in the primary.

His only hope is Trump wins and makes him like secretary of the treasury or some shit like that.

If, god forbid, trump wins next year, he is going to surround himself only with mega maga absolute loyalists and he is not loyalist enough

My Wash Post page is acting up for me this a.m. but there is a post about this. It claims a) Trumps odds of winning are increasing and b) the plans being OPENLY discussed by him/his advisors and which are plainly fascist.

This includes purging govt workers and installing those who are loyal to him, invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protests, and more. As well as pardoning and apologizing to those convicted of J6 insurrection.

He is TELLING US he will try to dismantle our democracy. Y'all need to listen to him.

Unfortunately, for many, this is what they want.they see this as a positive. Fake news is the worst thing trump came up with because it is impossible to reason with MaGA with facts. If they don’t like it, it is just fake news and can be ignored. I wish we knew a way to get through to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to win your home state to be president. I just hope Glen still runs

He is done. Every state where abortion has been on the ballot has voted to uphold abortion rights. He is on record as wanting to take away bodily autonomy. Move on.

Besides, I’m not seeing a situation where Trump voters choose him over Trump in the primary.

His only hope is Trump wins and makes him like secretary of the treasury or some shit like that.

If, god forbid, trump wins next year, he is going to surround himself only with mega maga absolute loyalists and he is not loyalist enough

My Wash Post page is acting up for me this a.m. but there is a post about this. It claims a) Trumps odds of winning are increasing and b) the plans being OPENLY discussed by him/his advisors and which are plainly fascist.

This includes purging govt workers and installing those who are loyal to him, invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protests, and more. As well as pardoning and apologizing to those convicted of J6 insurrection.

He is TELLING US he will try to dismantle our democracy. Y'all need to listen to him.

I agree and don't get why people are still interested in voting for him. It seems nuts. He's not even keeping these plans a secret. It's like, all written down and publicized and yet still, people think this is a good choice. I will never understand it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Moderate Democrat here. The more I read these results, the more delighted I am. Biden’s moderate approach to Israel didn’t siphon off voters despite what all the far left was screaming about. Banning trans healthcare for kids didn’t win, and I say this as someone who thinks medicalized transition for children is a serious medical scandal but who also feels very strongly that it’s extremely inappropriate for legislators to interfere with medical care (including abortion). Abortion rights were a huge winner and I was afraid that issue had faded out of view. J6 wasn’t diminished in importance. Election deniers lost badly. Youngkin was rebuffed squarely in his attempt to become more MAGA and will hopefully return to being a RINO Republican and then eventually lose entirely (I think he is smarmy).

Essentially these results are an endorsement of some badly needed moderates. It’s a relief.

Your posting twin said the same thing a few pages back and I’ll say the same thing in reply to you: the extremist GOP worldview is being repudiated. You don’t need to both sides this, people just don’t want what the GOP is pushing.

One might think the media would get a clue after today but I’m not holding my breath.

On 538.

Democrats had a great night!

Here’s why it’s bad for the Democrats.

It's the "people don't care about good news" mentality in the media. It's like they care more about the horse race and the drama than they do about the betterment of the nation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to win your home state to be president. I just hope Glen still runs

You Rs sure do love your losers!