BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

[Anonymous]

I think the bottom line is that people need to listen to the actual experts on what to do (epidemiologists, immunologists, etc). You know, the people who actually study this stuff and dedicate their life to this. Listening to anonymous trolls on the internet who are looking to push buttons bc they are bored and likely sadistic isn’t the answer. Here’s some great advice from the experts in the Washington Post today: https://apple.news/AYJkCPpRLQmeu-reKPodLmg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the bottom line is that people need to listen to the actual experts on what to do (epidemiologists, immunologists, etc). You know, the people who actually study this stuff and dedicate their life to this. Listening to anonymous trolls on the internet who are looking to push buttons bc they are bored and likely sadistic isn’t the answer. Here’s some great advice from the experts in the Washington Post today: https://apple.news/AYJkCPpRLQmeu-reKPodLmg

They've done such a bang up job so far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had Covid last week. I wish I knew if I had this variant or the stealth variant.

I picked it up in NYC

If you tested positive, it wasn't the stealth variant.

Are you’d aging the stealth variant evades both vaccines AND testing?

Different poster. Stealth refers to evading vacc not tests.

No, they are actually saying it evades tests too. Theatre of the absurd

Maybe we should shutdown for two weeks to sort all this out? You know, flatten the curve, reach COVID ZERO, and ascend to nirvana?

Sadly, there are people out there who want this.

Very few. They're just loud. Most people have moved on and now accept the risk of covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is going to be a new variant surging every few months for the foreseeable future. The virus is never going away, it is in the process of adapting to become endemic. Your vaccines might work, masks are dubiously effective at K95 level and ineffective below that. Society is never ever going back to 2020 levels of response. Some of you have to reach that understanding.

Nobody here is talking about 2020 levels of response. We are talking about 2022 levels of response.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people saying they won’t wear masks and immunocompromised people need to watch out for themselves will be startled when they catch covid for the fourth time and become immunocompromised and then people start telling them they need to watch out for themselves.

This has never happened. This is disinformation and you need to stop spreading this lie. There is literally zero evidence that one or multiple Covid infections lead to immune issues. Why do you all keep spreading this lie?

Wow, you are profoundly wrong about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the bottom line is that people need to listen to the actual experts on what to do (epidemiologists, immunologists, etc). You know, the people who actually study this stuff and dedicate their life to this. Listening to anonymous trolls on the internet who are looking to push buttons bc they are bored and likely sadistic isn’t the answer. Here’s some great advice from the experts in the Washington Post today: https://apple.news/AYJkCPpRLQmeu-reKPodLmg

The problem is that even the "experts" don't agree on this. There are a variety of expert views. Some are voices of alarm, some are voices of reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people saying they won’t wear masks and immunocompromised people need to watch out for themselves will be startled when they catch covid for the fourth time and become immunocompromised and then people start telling them they need to watch out for themselves.

This has never happened. This is disinformation and you need to stop spreading this lie. There is literally zero evidence that one or multiple Covid infections lead to immune issues. Why do you all keep spreading this lie?

Wow, you are profoundly wrong about this.

NP. Says the one who is fitter and happier?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is going to be a new variant surging every few months for the foreseeable future. The virus is never going away, it is in the process of adapting to become endemic. Your vaccines might work, masks are dubiously effective at K95 level and ineffective below that. Society is never ever going back to 2020 levels of response. Some of you have to reach that understanding.

Nobody here is talking about 2020 levels of response. We are talking about 2022 levels of response.

And there is no agreement on what these should be, not even among experts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is going to be a new variant surging every few months for the foreseeable future. The virus is never going away, it is in the process of adapting to become endemic. Your vaccines might work, masks are dubiously effective at K95 level and ineffective below that. Society is never ever going back to 2020 levels of response. Some of you have to reach that understanding.

Nobody here is talking about 2020 levels of response. We are talking about 2022 levels of response.

And there is no agreement on what these should be, not even among experts.

And that’s because they are dealing with a population that has been intentionally obfuscated to, and sometimes because the people identified as “experts” themselves are currently still part of the obfuscation squad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is going to be a new variant surging every few months for the foreseeable future. The virus is never going away, it is in the process of adapting to become endemic. Your vaccines might work, masks are dubiously effective at K95 level and ineffective below that. Society is never ever going back to 2020 levels of response. Some of you have to reach that understanding.

Nobody here is talking about 2020 levels of response. We are talking about 2022 levels of response.

And there is no agreement on what these should be, not even among experts.

And that’s because they are dealing with a population that has been intentionally obfuscated to, and sometimes because the people identified as “experts” themselves are currently still part of the obfuscation squad.

I agree there has been a lot of obfuscation, although I suspect we disagree on the nature of it. But obfuscation is not the primary reason of the disagreement. The disagreement stems from the fact that this is a complex situation and this is not a question that can be answered by virologists because the answer will in large part depend on how you think different risks and costs and benefits and interests should be balanced, which is ultimately a political question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is going to be a new variant surging every few months for the foreseeable future. The virus is never going away, it is in the process of adapting to become endemic. Your vaccines might work, masks are dubiously effective at K95 level and ineffective below that. Society is never ever going back to 2020 levels of response. Some of you have to reach that understanding.

Nobody here is talking about 2020 levels of response. We are talking about 2022 levels of response.

And there is no agreement on what these should be, not even among experts.

And that’s because they are dealing with a population that has been intentionally obfuscated to, and sometimes because the people identified as “experts” themselves are currently still part of the obfuscation squad.

I agree there has been a lot of obfuscation, although I suspect we disagree on the nature of it. But obfuscation is not the primary reason of the disagreement. The disagreement stems from the fact that this is a complex situation and this is not a question that can be answered by virologists because the answer will in large part depend on how you think different risks and costs and benefits and interests should be balanced, which is ultimately a political question.

This is DCUM. The only acceptable risk is NO risk.

[Anonymous]

Who cares. News flash: we are all going to get covid. How about we not to stupid stuff like closing schools & businesses in addition to inevitably getting covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares. News flash: we are all going to get covid. How about we not to stupid stuff like closing schools & businesses in addition to inevitably getting covid.

This talking point isn't a new contribution to the discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the bottom line is that people need to listen to the actual experts on what to do (epidemiologists, immunologists, etc). You know, the people who actually study this stuff and dedicate their life to this. Listening to anonymous trolls on the internet who are looking to push buttons bc they are bored and likely sadistic isn’t the answer. Here’s some great advice from the experts in the Washington Post today: https://apple.news/AYJkCPpRLQmeu-reKPodLmg

They've done such a bang up job so far.

Stop playing games. Certain people who would gain by ignoring the pandemic intentionally undermined anyone speaking reason. Also the response was never going to be perfect and your bunch of nutjobs used every bit of it to encourage confusion. If that orange stain had not been in office things would not have been so bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people saying they won’t wear masks and immunocompromised people need to watch out for themselves will be startled when they catch covid for the fourth time and become immunocompromised and then people start telling them they need to watch out for themselves.

This has never happened. This is disinformation and you need to stop spreading this lie. There is literally zero evidence that one or multiple Covid infections lead to immune issues. Why do you all keep spreading this lie?

Wow, you are profoundly wrong about this.

+1. It's being documented and discussed now.