McLean leaving FVU

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Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Besides McLean, curious if there will be any SYC or NVA/Loudon defections.

Pay attention, McLean is not an alliance team.

There is no "alliance". Its just marketing for gullible parents. The ECNL teams do not care where the players who try out are coming from. They will take the best kids if they only played rec. Your little Larla doesn't get any special consideration because you were dumb enough to go to Valor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Besides McLean, curious if there will be any SYC or NVA/Loudon defections.

Pay attention, McLean is not an alliance team.

There is no "alliance". Its just marketing for gullible parents. The ECNL teams do not care where the players who try out are coming from. They will take the best kids if they only played rec. Your little Larla doesn't get any special consideration because you were dumb enough to go to Valor.

You say this yet, everyone has said that the tryouts are meaningless and coaches know who they are taking already. Which one is it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Besides McLean, curious if there will be any SYC or NVA/Loudon defections.

Pay attention, McLean is not an alliance team.

There is no "alliance". Its just marketing for gullible parents. The ECNL teams do not care where the players who try out are coming from. They will take the best kids if they only played rec. Your little Larla doesn't get any special consideration because you were dumb enough to go to Valor.

See, here is the issue. Even though you were responding to a one sentence response starting with the words pay attention, you did not pay attention. McLean used to be in an alliance with Springfield, called Union, then in an alliance with Brave called FVU. They split from that alliance and went GA/MLSN2. They are now just McLean with no alliance and are not ECNL.

[Anonymous]

ECNL teams have always been open to players from anywhere, any club. What do you think ID sessions are? The alliance is, indeed, just marketing to make u-little parents think that the best way onto the ECNL team is through one of the alliance member rec/pre-ECNL programs. It's always been that way, whether it was MYS, VA Union, or FVU. And it's the same way at Arlington or any ECNL club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL teams have always been open to players from anywhere, any club. What do you think ID sessions are? The alliance is, indeed, just marketing to make u-little parents think that the best way onto the ECNL team is through one of the alliance member rec/pre-ECNL programs. It's always been that way, whether it was MYS, VA Union, or FVU. And it's the same way at Arlington or any ECNL club.

This is all true, esp. where the “pathway” is through an “alliance.” Where it is all one club, though, it can be an advantage to be there at u-little for a certain type of player who is not flashy for an ID session but whose game time contributions would be appreciated by coach who’ve seen the games, eg a defensive minded mid who moves the ball forward well but isn’t a good finisher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Last season, Mclean was part of the “FVU alliance”. So to answer your question, most of the youngest FVU girls team this year was made up of an alliance club from last year - Mclean.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Last season, Mclean was part of the “FVU alliance”. So to answer your question, most of the youngest FVU girls team this year was made up of an alliance club from last year - Mclean.

It was announced prior to tryouts that they were leaving. Nice try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Last season, Mclean was part of the “FVU alliance”. So to answer your question, most of the youngest FVU girls team this year was made up of an alliance club from last year - Mclean.

How many girls from the “FVU alliance” teams will actually make the 2014G FVU roster? The majority of the teams look less than competitive. Predictions? I say 5 max across all the teams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Last season, Mclean was part of the “FVU alliance”. So to answer your question, most of the youngest FVU girls team this year was made up of an alliance club from last year - Mclean.

How many girls from the “FVU alliance” teams will actually make the 2014G FVU roster? The majority of the teams look less than competitive. Predictions? I say 5 max across all the teams.

Seems right. I’d say 4 from Valor and 1 VYS. The rest either McLean or they will be really, really bad next year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Last season, Mclean was part of the “FVU alliance”. So to answer your question, most of the youngest FVU girls team this year was made up of an alliance club from last year - Mclean.

How many girls from the “FVU alliance” teams will actually make the 2014G FVU roster? The majority of the teams look less than competitive. Predictions? I say 5 max across all the teams.

Seems right. I’d say 4 from Valor and 1 VYS. The rest either McLean or they will be really, really bad next year.

My guess is 3-4. Most Valor and maybe 1 random player from one of the other teams.

[Anonymous]

Why would McLean players go to FVU? If it is for ECNL, there are 3 other ECNL clubs within pretty much the same distance that are significantly better.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would McLean players go to FVU? If it is for ECNL, there are 3 other ECNL clubs within pretty much the same distance that are significantly better.

FVU is in the backyard. Arlington, not too far, but not sure how many spots there are for those kids. Leaves Bethesda and VDA, which are further away. VDA is well established already, so that pretty much just leaves FVU and BSC. Lots of bad vibes going on with BSC, so back to FVU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Last season, Mclean was part of the “FVU alliance”. So to answer your question, most of the youngest FVU girls team this year was made up of an alliance club from last year - Mclean.

How many girls from the “FVU alliance” teams will actually make the 2014G FVU roster? The majority of the teams look less than competitive. Predictions? I say 5 max across all the teams.

Seems right. I’d say 4 from Valor and 1 VYS. The rest either McLean or they will be really, really bad next year.

My guess is 3-4. Most Valor and maybe 1 random player from one of the other teams.

How strong are the top two teams at Loudoun and SYC? VRSC? Maybe some girls who don’t make the top teams there, or just want ECNL over GA, try for FVU. Never mind the age group change where some 2013s will inevitably end up making ECNL in their new age group. Plus standouts from other feeder and non feeder clubs whose teams have been struggling but they are individually talented. People don’t seem to understand what a big bottleneck it is going from all these “pre” teams to a much smaller number of ECNL and GA teams. It’s not like FVU coaches are sitting there like “well Valor has the best record of our feeders so let’s just take them all”. Who knows the rankings may even change with spring games.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can not believe anyone cares enough about u-little girls to research all that out. dear god.

I fairly convinced there are three people on this forum who say the same thing on every thread. Ignoring this person. There’s a market indicator embedded in the 2014s that is relevant, most will get, this person has not. Some people made the point that GA is becoming the pathway for the U-littles, so this is a relevant market indicator. Last year had too much chaos so it was hard to determine if girls were picking ECNL over GA. All of the McLean 2013Gs went to FVU, which could have been an indicator but CW defected and brought over DB, both of who highly recruited the players from this very good team. Everyone can agree that the FVU alliances is nothing more than words. That said, one of the clearest indicators of GA market acceptance is what happens with the McLean 2014s. While not the only determining factor, it is a relevant marker for anyone who cares. Given that there are thousands of conversations on this topic, I think people care. While McLean is not the only indicator, it is a marker. If the 2014s going to FVU and take many of the spots, like the 2013s, then 1) the alliance is even further less relevant and the market is indicating a greater trust in ECNL right now. If they stay McLean then a few various indicators that cannot be determined yet. However, one thing that is clear is that FVU would not be very strong next year unless they draw a lot of high quality players from outside the alliance, but where would those kids come from?

Exactly right! How many alliance players made FVU last year? Granted the alliance was smaller, but does anyone think for a second that *ANY* team in the alliance will produce strong FVU candidates? I would be shocked if any alliance team had more than 1-2 players MAX on the FVU roster next year.

Last season, Mclean was part of the “FVU alliance”. So to answer your question, most of the youngest FVU girls team this year was made up of an alliance club from last year - Mclean.

How many girls from the “FVU alliance” teams will actually make the 2014G FVU roster? The majority of the teams look less than competitive. Predictions? I say 5 max across all the teams.

Seems right. I’d say 4 from Valor and 1 VYS. The rest either McLean or they will be really, really bad next year.

My guess is 3-4. Most Valor and maybe 1 random player from one of the other teams.

How strong are the top two teams at Loudoun and SYC? VRSC? Maybe some girls who don’t make the top teams there, or just want ECNL over GA, try for FVU. Never mind the age group change where some 2013s will inevitably end up making ECNL in their new age group. Plus standouts from other feeder and non feeder clubs whose teams have been struggling but they are individually talented. People don’t seem to understand what a big bottleneck it is going from all these “pre” teams to a much smaller number of ECNL and GA teams. It’s not like FVU coaches are sitting there like “well Valor has the best record of our feeders so let’s just take them all”. Who knows the rankings may even change with spring games.

yeah maybe 1-3 kids off of the second team from those clubs. Kids from the second teams are playing lesser competition so speed of play is a challenge. That puts us at 8 max of an 18 roster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would McLean players go to FVU? If it is for ECNL, there are 3 other ECNL clubs within pretty much the same distance that are significantly better.

FVU is in the backyard. Arlington, not too far, but not sure how many spots there are for those kids. Leaves Bethesda and VDA, which are further away. VDA is well established already, so that pretty much just leaves FVU and BSC. Lots of bad vibes going on with BSC, so back to FVU.

The whole point and strength of the ECNL is college recruiting. Arlington, Bethesda and VDA are much better than FVU in that regard.