Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:Local media are starting to ask officials how much the search is costing "us."

Reportedly somewhere "between 500,000 and 1 million" so far.

Which is like 10 times the money spent on pretty much ALL of the POC that have gone missing this year combined.

It's too bad no one will care if I get murdered.

There are major faults in your logic that you don’t have the courage to be honest about or perhaps you are such a far gone racist that your perspective is distorted:

Here’s the hard truth : the “ media” doesn’t give a damn about Gabby either , nor did they give a shit about Natalie Holloway or Joan Bennet - they just want to make money off of ratings . Period . It’s simple demographics: majority of spenders on products of companies advertised on these networks are white because majority of America is white .

The fact that the story sells - doesn’t mean yours won’t - just find a forum that will back it with $$$$ . Your mistake is you thinking that the media grieve for anyone - maybe the news anchor does - but the execs making those decisions are same guys who supported the Harvey Weinstein of the world - who btw mostly targeted white women

You're calling ME a racist? Not the people who ONLY care that a white girl is missing? The reason the media gets such high ratings is because white people only care about good looking white people.

Your logic is child like.

Consider this : in one breath you allege that ALL white people don’t care about you AND in the same breath ALL white people are obsessed with oppressing you and keeping you down. Which is it because they are diametrically opposed ?

Here’s the truth : AA women are 3x more often the victim of violence by their partner - focus your attention there . THAT is what you should be trying to change and NO don’t even try to say that the reason AA men are beating the WH”t out of their gf and wives is because “ the white media made them do it “ or “ it’s cause of slavery . Deal with IT . Face IT . Maybe demand gun violence laws - gun bans and mandatory jail terms to end violence

But NO instead, let’s play a zero sum game : No one can care about ANYONE- all lives are Sh”t

No way that is gonna happen .

Brian Laundrie and his dirt bag parents are in the news and are being hunted because they have seriously violated societal norms:
1) not manning up and coming forward in Shane when you kill a woman who loved you
2) parents lying to protect their son as opposed to doing the right thing knowing how we ALL feel as parents of our child was missing/ murdered
3) making public fools of the Utah police - BIG Mistake Brian - big mistake

Piss off every grandma , grandpa , mom and COP in America and do it while being an unemployed LOSER and , yes, our society demands a correction - a prosecution and justice because THAT is how we uphold our values - ALL of our values - just like last Summer we all stood up because our values were violated

Valuing Gabby doesn’t mean YOU aren’t valued

While I think you underestimate the cumulative effects of racism and slavery, you're dead on that this story is about violated social norms. And, the killed lesbian couple. I didn't perk up until I understood there were THREE dead ladies, in a national park. I mean, there are SO many national parks horror and true crime stories that I don't even know where to start. American Horror Stories just dedicated an episode to national parks (Feral) and the National Parks killers podcast is on its 11th season. Three dead ladies, in a park? That's fire.

So this is interesting, right? Where is all the news about the lesbians and who killed them? Nothing. You wouldn't know about them if it weren't for Gabby. They're not POC, but they are a minority and you can't relate to them, so you wouldn't really be focused or interested in that story, you'd just say "Oh, that's sad, I hope they find their killer" but there's not a thread about them, nobody is seeking out clues about them, I haven't seen any TikToks about the last time they were spotted, etc...

They were actually a story that was going on before Gabby's. And then they merged.

I don't think you guys can back up your claims that only pretty blonde girls are featured in true crime. I'm a genuine true crime fan, I average 1-2 hours of true crime stories per day and much higher on weekend. While cleaning my house, I'm listening to murder. While walking my dog, those airpods are feeding me murder. I know my murder.

And I can tell you-- and have receipts-- that pretty white women are actually a minority in this genre. Prove it otherwise. The only ones you can probably name are JeanBenet, Natalie Halloway, and now Gabby. That's what... one a decade? No, contrary to what's fashionable to claim, true crime and horror fans actually prefer the more obscure stuff with imperfect victims. Go look on Netflix and see who the victims are these days. People like complex story lines, interesting villains, and relatable victims. JeanBenet, may she rest in peace, is not relatable for most people.

+1

I’m a huge true crime junkie, too, and I second the above. I’d maybe add Amanda Knox to your list, but otherwise I couldn’t name any more white women. I could, however, name +10 Asian and black women who have gone missing. I honestly think it’s just soooo trendy to flag the “white blonde woman” card. Yet, none of these people actually follow the genre or general media coverage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local media are starting to ask officials how much the search is costing "us."

Reportedly somewhere "between 500,000 and 1 million" so far.

Which is like 10 times the money spent on pretty much ALL of the POC that have gone missing this year combined.

It's too bad no one will care if I get murdered.

There are major faults in your logic that you don’t have the courage to be honest about or perhaps you are such a far gone racist that your perspective is distorted:

Here’s the hard truth : the “ media” doesn’t give a damn about Gabby either , nor did they give a shit about Natalie Holloway or Joan Bennet - they just want to make money off of ratings . Period . It’s simple demographics: majority of spenders on products of companies advertised on these networks are white because majority of America is white .

The fact that the story sells - doesn’t mean yours won’t - just find a forum that will back it with $$$$ . Your mistake is you thinking that the media grieve for anyone - maybe the news anchor does - but the execs making those decisions are same guys who supported the Harvey Weinstein of the world - who btw mostly targeted white women

You're calling ME a racist? Not the people who ONLY care that a white girl is missing? The reason the media gets such high ratings is because white people only care about good looking white people.

Your logic is child like.

Consider this : in one breath you allege that ALL white people don’t care about you AND in the same breath ALL white people are obsessed with oppressing you and keeping you down. Which is it because they are diametrically opposed ?

Here’s the truth : AA women are 3x more often the victim of violence by their partner - focus your attention there . THAT is what you should be trying to change and NO don’t even try to say that the reason AA men are beating the WH”t out of their gf and wives is because “ the white media made them do it “ or “ it’s cause of slavery . Deal with IT . Face IT . Maybe demand gun violence laws - gun bans and mandatory jail terms to end violence

But NO instead, let’s play a zero sum game : No one can care about ANYONE- all lives are Sh”t

No way that is gonna happen .

Brian Laundrie and his dirt bag parents are in the news and are being hunted because they have seriously violated societal norms:
1) not manning up and coming forward in Shane when you kill a woman who loved you
2) parents lying to protect their son as opposed to doing the right thing knowing how we ALL feel as parents of our child was missing/ murdered
3) making public fools of the Utah police - BIG Mistake Brian - big mistake

Piss off every grandma , grandpa , mom and COP in America and do it while being an unemployed LOSER and , yes, our society demands a correction - a prosecution and justice because THAT is how we uphold our values - ALL of our values - just like last Summer we all stood up because our values were violated

Valuing Gabby doesn’t mean YOU aren’t valued

While I think you underestimate the cumulative effects of racism and slavery, you're dead on that this story is about violated social norms. And, the killed lesbian couple. I didn't perk up until I understood there were THREE dead ladies, in a national park. I mean, there are SO many national parks horror and true crime stories that I don't even know where to start. American Horror Stories just dedicated an episode to national parks (Feral) and the National Parks killers podcast is on its 11th season. Three dead ladies, in a park? That's fire.

So this is interesting, right? Where is all the news about the lesbians and who killed them? Nothing. You wouldn't know about them if it weren't for Gabby. They're not POC, but they are a minority and you can't relate to them, so you wouldn't really be focused or interested in that story, you'd just say "Oh, that's sad, I hope they find their killer" but there's not a thread about them, nobody is seeking out clues about them, I haven't seen any TikToks about the last time they were spotted, etc...

This is so false in my case. I read all about Kylen and Crystal first, and was shocked when I learned that the Aug 12th police cam of Gabby and Brian was due to fighting at Kylen or Crystals store, the Moonflower grocery coop. I suspected a connection. The creepy guy. . although posters have said a connection was ruled out by now.

[Anonymous]

And theres a lengthy thread about this case because we think we know Brian did it, he is on the run, and there's so many videos, witnesses, and odd social media things. Their "job" was social media. We don't have much to review in the case of Kylen and Crystal. We don't know who did it either, no suspect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local media are starting to ask officials how much the search is costing "us."

Reportedly somewhere "between 500,000 and 1 million" so far.

Which is like 10 times the money spent on pretty much ALL of the POC that have gone missing this year combined.

It's too bad no one will care if I get murdered.

There are major faults in your logic that you don’t have the courage to be honest about or perhaps you are such a far gone racist that your perspective is distorted:

Here’s the hard truth : the “ media” doesn’t give a damn about Gabby either , nor did they give a shit about Natalie Holloway or Joan Bennet - they just want to make money off of ratings . Period . It’s simple demographics: majority of spenders on products of companies advertised on these networks are white because majority of America is white .

The fact that the story sells - doesn’t mean yours won’t - just find a forum that will back it with $$$$ . Your mistake is you thinking that the media grieve for anyone - maybe the news anchor does - but the execs making those decisions are same guys who supported the Harvey Weinstein of the world - who btw mostly targeted white women

You're calling ME a racist? Not the people who ONLY care that a white girl is missing? The reason the media gets such high ratings is because white people only care about good looking white people.

Your logic is child like.

Consider this : in one breath you allege that ALL white people don’t care about you AND in the same breath ALL white people are obsessed with oppressing you and keeping you down. Which is it because they are diametrically opposed ?

Here’s the truth : AA women are 3x more often the victim of violence by their partner - focus your attention there . THAT is what you should be trying to change and NO don’t even try to say that the reason AA men are beating the WH”t out of their gf and wives is because “ the white media made them do it “ or “ it’s cause of slavery . Deal with IT . Face IT . Maybe demand gun violence laws - gun bans and mandatory jail terms to end violence

But NO instead, let’s play a zero sum game : No one can care about ANYONE- all lives are Sh”t

No way that is gonna happen .

Brian Laundrie and his dirt bag parents are in the news and are being hunted because they have seriously violated societal norms:
1) not manning up and coming forward in Shane when you kill a woman who loved you
2) parents lying to protect their son as opposed to doing the right thing knowing how we ALL feel as parents of our child was missing/ murdered
3) making public fools of the Utah police - BIG Mistake Brian - big mistake

Piss off every grandma , grandpa , mom and COP in America and do it while being an unemployed LOSER and , yes, our society demands a correction - a prosecution and justice because THAT is how we uphold our values - ALL of our values - just like last Summer we all stood up because our values were violated

Valuing Gabby doesn’t mean YOU aren’t valued

While I think you underestimate the cumulative effects of racism and slavery, you're dead on that this story is about violated social norms. And, the killed lesbian couple. I didn't perk up until I understood there were THREE dead ladies, in a national park. I mean, there are SO many national parks horror and true crime stories that I don't even know where to start. American Horror Stories just dedicated an episode to national parks (Feral) and the National Parks killers podcast is on its 11th season. Three dead ladies, in a park? That's fire.

So this is interesting, right? Where is all the news about the lesbians and who killed them? Nothing. You wouldn't know about them if it weren't for Gabby. They're not POC, but they are a minority and you can't relate to them, so you wouldn't really be focused or interested in that story, you'd just say "Oh, that's sad, I hope they find their killer" but there's not a thread about them, nobody is seeking out clues about them, I haven't seen any TikToks about the last time they were spotted, etc...

This is so false in my case. I read all about Kylen and Crystal first, and was shocked when I learned that the Aug 12th police cam of Gabby and Brian was due to fighting at Kylen or Crystals store, the Moonflower grocery coop. I suspected a connection. The creepy guy. . although posters have said a connection was ruled out by now.

+1. I wasn't really paying attention to the Gabby case until it came out that they were arguing in front of the place this couple worked, the day before they died, and they were camping in the same area. Then it was like HOLD UP. Kylen and Crystal were in the news maybe 2 whole weeks before Gabby and are probably the real reason this story got legs.

[Anonymous]

The Kylen and Crystal story is also how I learned about people doing the "van life." And I thought, how dangerous that must be.

[Anonymous]

Also, I think it's really hetreonormative of the pp who said I couldn't relate to the lesbian couple to assume I can't relate to them. Lady, I'm an anonymous person on the internet and you don't know my sexuality or what's relatable. You can't just assume that. Yeesh.

[Anonymous]

I think Gabby's story would have gotten far less press if he'd cooperated with the police. He could have just said we broke up and she decided she wasn't comfortable driving the van. She said she was meeting a friend, I don't know who, and I'd mail her parents the proceeds from selling the van. I last saw her in X.

The fact he refused to cooperate and was acting guilty as all get out caught media attention, which resulted in them finding the body, and then we found out he ran. Now it's a spectical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Local media are starting to ask officials how much the search is costing "us."

Reportedly somewhere "between 500,000 and 1 million" so far.

Which is like 10 times the money spent on pretty much ALL of the POC that have gone missing this year combined.

It's too bad no one will care if I get murdered.

There are major faults in your logic that you don’t have the courage to be honest about or perhaps you are such a far gone racist that your perspective is distorted:

Here’s the hard truth : the “ media” doesn’t give a damn about Gabby either , nor did they give a shit about Natalie Holloway or Joan Bennet - they just want to make money off of ratings . Period . It’s simple demographics: majority of spenders on products of companies advertised on these networks are white because majority of America is white .

The fact that the story sells - doesn’t mean yours won’t - just find a forum that will back it with $$$$ . Your mistake is you thinking that the media grieve for anyone - maybe the news anchor does - but the execs making those decisions are same guys who supported the Harvey Weinstein of the world - who btw mostly targeted white women

You're calling ME a racist? Not the people who ONLY care that a white girl is missing? The reason the media gets such high ratings is because white people only care about good looking white people.

Your logic is child like.

Consider this : in one breath you allege that ALL white people don’t care about you AND in the same breath ALL white people are obsessed with oppressing you and keeping you down. Which is it because they are diametrically opposed ?

Here’s the truth : AA women are 3x more often the victim of violence by their partner - focus your attention there . THAT is what you should be trying to change and NO don’t even try to say that the reason AA men are beating the WH”t out of their gf and wives is because “ the white media made them do it “ or “ it’s cause of slavery . Deal with IT . Face IT . Maybe demand gun violence laws - gun bans and mandatory jail terms to end violence

But NO instead, let’s play a zero sum game : No one can care about ANYONE- all lives are Sh”t

No way that is gonna happen .

Brian Laundrie and his dirt bag parents are in the news and are being hunted because they have seriously violated societal norms:
1) not manning up and coming forward in Shane when you kill a woman who loved you
2) parents lying to protect their son as opposed to doing the right thing knowing how we ALL feel as parents of our child was missing/ murdered
3) making public fools of the Utah police - BIG Mistake Brian - big mistake

Piss off every grandma , grandpa , mom and COP in America and do it while being an unemployed LOSER and , yes, our society demands a correction - a prosecution and justice because THAT is how we uphold our values - ALL of our values - just like last Summer we all stood up because our values were violated

Valuing Gabby doesn’t mean YOU aren’t valued

While I think you underestimate the cumulative effects of racism and slavery, you're dead on that this story is about violated social norms. And, the killed lesbian couple. I didn't perk up until I understood there were THREE dead ladies, in a national park. I mean, there are SO many national parks horror and true crime stories that I don't even know where to start. American Horror Stories just dedicated an episode to national parks (Feral) and the National Parks killers podcast is on its 11th season. Three dead ladies, in a park? That's fire.

I feel like the national parks must be a hot bed of death. No cell phone reception, wide open vast wilderness, little oversight by too few park rangers. Between the accidental deaths and the intentional ones (that are often framed by the murders as accidents) that occur there I would be afraid to go to one of these parks without a tour group.

It's really not as unoccupied and vast as you would think. Tourists are EVERY WHERE. The only place there weren't was the furnace which required a guided tour after multiple rescues / deaths as a result of the maze.

Right? I visited Yosemite in the summer and unoccupied wasn't a word that came to mind, even in the less visited areas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local media are starting to ask officials how much the search is costing "us."

Reportedly somewhere "between 500,000 and 1 million" so far.

Which is like 10 times the money spent on pretty much ALL of the POC that have gone missing this year combined.

It's too bad no one will care if I get murdered.

There are major faults in your logic that you don’t have the courage to be honest about or perhaps you are such a far gone racist that your perspective is distorted:

Here’s the hard truth : the “ media” doesn’t give a damn about Gabby either , nor did they give a shit about Natalie Holloway or Joan Bennet - they just want to make money off of ratings . Period . It’s simple demographics: majority of spenders on products of companies advertised on these networks are white because majority of America is white .

The fact that the story sells - doesn’t mean yours won’t - just find a forum that will back it with $$$$ . Your mistake is you thinking that the media grieve for anyone - maybe the news anchor does - but the execs making those decisions are same guys who supported the Harvey Weinstein of the world - who btw mostly targeted white women

You're calling ME a racist? Not the people who ONLY care that a white girl is missing? The reason the media gets such high ratings is because white people only care about good looking white people.

Your logic is child like.

Consider this : in one breath you allege that ALL white people don’t care about you AND in the same breath ALL white people are obsessed with oppressing you and keeping you down. Which is it because they are diametrically opposed ?

Here’s the truth : AA women are 3x more often the victim of violence by their partner - focus your attention there . THAT is what you should be trying to change and NO don’t even try to say that the reason AA men are beating the WH”t out of their gf and wives is because “ the white media made them do it “ or “ it’s cause of slavery . Deal with IT . Face IT . Maybe demand gun violence laws - gun bans and mandatory jail terms to end violence

But NO instead, let’s play a zero sum game : No one can care about ANYONE- all lives are Sh”t

No way that is gonna happen .

Brian Laundrie and his dirt bag parents are in the news and are being hunted because they have seriously violated societal norms:
1) not manning up and coming forward in Shane when you kill a woman who loved you
2) parents lying to protect their son as opposed to doing the right thing knowing how we ALL feel as parents of our child was missing/ murdered
3) making public fools of the Utah police - BIG Mistake Brian - big mistake

Piss off every grandma , grandpa , mom and COP in America and do it while being an unemployed LOSER and , yes, our society demands a correction - a prosecution and justice because THAT is how we uphold our values - ALL of our values - just like last Summer we all stood up because our values were violated

Valuing Gabby doesn’t mean YOU aren’t valued

While I think you underestimate the cumulative effects of racism and slavery, you're dead on that this story is about violated social norms. And, the killed lesbian couple. I didn't perk up until I understood there were THREE dead ladies, in a national park. I mean, there are SO many national parks horror and true crime stories that I don't even know where to start. American Horror Stories just dedicated an episode to national parks (Feral) and the National Parks killers podcast is on its 11th season. Three dead ladies, in a park? That's fire.

So this is interesting, right? Where is all the news about the lesbians and who killed them? Nothing. You wouldn't know about them if it weren't for Gabby. They're not POC, but they are a minority and you can't relate to them, so you wouldn't really be focused or interested in that story, you'd just say "Oh, that's sad, I hope they find their killer" but there's not a thread about them, nobody is seeking out clues about them, I haven't seen any TikToks about the last time they were spotted, etc...

They were actually a story that was going on before Gabby's. And then they merged.

I don't think you guys can back up your claims that only pretty blonde girls are featured in true crime. I'm a genuine true crime fan, I average 1-2 hours of true crime stories per day and much higher on weekend. While cleaning my house, I'm listening to murder. While walking my dog, those airpods are feeding me murder. I know my murder.

And I can tell you-- and have receipts-- that pretty white women are actually a minority in this genre. Prove it otherwise. The only ones you can probably name are JeanBenet, Natalie Halloway, and now Gabby. That's what... one a decade? No, contrary to what's fashionable to claim, true crime and horror fans actually prefer the more obscure stuff with imperfect victims. Go look on Netflix and see who the victims are these days. People like complex story lines, interesting villains, and relatable victims. JeanBenet, may she rest in peace, is not relatable for most people.

+1

I’m a huge true crime junkie, too, and I second the above. I’d maybe add Amanda Knox to your list, but otherwise I couldn’t name any more white women. I could, however, name +10 Asian and black women who have gone missing. I honestly think it’s just soooo trendy to flag the “white blonde woman” card. Yet, none of these people actually follow the genre or general media coverage.

People are not talking about true crime junkies surfing Netflix. Folks are saying NBC/CBS/ABC are not featuring certain women (or MEN). And it’s true. Hundreds of native women have gone missing in that same area and I can’t name one of them.

I don’t want them to stop featuring people like Gabby Petito. I want them to give a bit of airtime for people like Jelani Day. Or Kylen and Crystal (I learned their names here).

[Anonymous]

I visited the Badlands, Rushmore, and Custer State Park this summer and it was overrun with people. But very bad cell service, lots of wild animals, and hot springs. Signs warning about rattlesnakes.

Theme parks with rollercoasters at least have workers inspecting the place each morning or whatever. National Parks make no such claims for their safety.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Local media are starting to ask officials how much the search is costing "us."

Reportedly somewhere "between 500,000 and 1 million" so far.

Which is like 10 times the money spent on pretty much ALL of the POC that have gone missing this year combined.

It's too bad no one will care if I get murdered.

There are major faults in your logic that you don’t have the courage to be honest about or perhaps you are such a far gone racist that your perspective is distorted:

Here’s the hard truth : the “ media” doesn’t give a damn about Gabby either , nor did they give a shit about Natalie Holloway or Joan Bennet - they just want to make money off of ratings . Period . It’s simple demographics: majority of spenders on products of companies advertised on these networks are white because majority of America is white .

The fact that the story sells - doesn’t mean yours won’t - just find a forum that will back it with $$$$ . Your mistake is you thinking that the media grieve for anyone - maybe the news anchor does - but the execs making those decisions are same guys who supported the Harvey Weinstein of the world - who btw mostly targeted white women

You're calling ME a racist? Not the people who ONLY care that a white girl is missing? The reason the media gets such high ratings is because white people only care about good looking white people.

Your logic is child like.

Consider this : in one breath you allege that ALL white people don’t care about you AND in the same breath ALL white people are obsessed with oppressing you and keeping you down. Which is it because they are diametrically opposed ?

Here’s the truth : AA women are 3x more often the victim of violence by their partner - focus your attention there . THAT is what you should be trying to change and NO don’t even try to say that the reason AA men are beating the WH”t out of their gf and wives is because “ the white media made them do it “ or “ it’s cause of slavery . Deal with IT . Face IT . Maybe demand gun violence laws - gun bans and mandatory jail terms to end violence

But NO instead, let’s play a zero sum game : No one can care about ANYONE- all lives are Sh”t

No way that is gonna happen .

Brian Laundrie and his dirt bag parents are in the news and are being hunted because they have seriously violated societal norms:
1) not manning up and coming forward in Shane when you kill a woman who loved you
2) parents lying to protect their son as opposed to doing the right thing knowing how we ALL feel as parents of our child was missing/ murdered
3) making public fools of the Utah police - BIG Mistake Brian - big mistake

Piss off every grandma , grandpa , mom and COP in America and do it while being an unemployed LOSER and , yes, our society demands a correction - a prosecution and justice because THAT is how we uphold our values - ALL of our values - just like last Summer we all stood up because our values were violated

Valuing Gabby doesn’t mean YOU aren’t valued

While I think you underestimate the cumulative effects of racism and slavery, you're dead on that this story is about violated social norms. And, the killed lesbian couple. I didn't perk up until I understood there were THREE dead ladies, in a national park. I mean, there are SO many national parks horror and true crime stories that I don't even know where to start. American Horror Stories just dedicated an episode to national parks (Feral) and the National Parks killers podcast is on its 11th season. Three dead ladies, in a park? That's fire.

So this is interesting, right? Where is all the news about the lesbians and who killed them? Nothing. You wouldn't know about them if it weren't for Gabby. They're not POC, but they are a minority and you can't relate to them, so you wouldn't really be focused or interested in that story, you'd just say "Oh, that's sad, I hope they find their killer" but there's not a thread about them, nobody is seeking out clues about them, I haven't seen any TikToks about the last time they were spotted, etc...

They were actually a story that was going on before Gabby's. And then they merged.

I don't think you guys can back up your claims that only pretty blonde girls are featured in true crime. I'm a genuine true crime fan, I average 1-2 hours of true crime stories per day and much higher on weekend. While cleaning my house, I'm listening to murder. While walking my dog, those airpods are feeding me murder. I know my murder.

And I can tell you-- and have receipts-- that pretty white women are actually a minority in this genre. Prove it otherwise. The only ones you can probably name are JeanBenet, Natalie Halloway, and now Gabby. That's what... one a decade? No, contrary to what's fashionable to claim, true crime and horror fans actually prefer the more obscure stuff with imperfect victims. Go look on Netflix and see who the victims are these days. People like complex story lines, interesting villains, and relatable victims. JeanBenet, may she rest in peace, is not relatable for most people.

+1

I’m a huge true crime junkie, too, and I second the above. I’d maybe add Amanda Knox to your list, but otherwise I couldn’t name any more white women. I could, however, name +10 Asian and black women who have gone missing. I honestly think it’s just soooo trendy to flag the “white blonde woman” card. Yet, none of these people actually follow the genre or general media coverage.

People are not talking about true crime junkies surfing Netflix. Folks are saying NBC/CBS/ABC are not featuring certain women (or MEN). And it’s true. Hundreds of native women have gone missing in that same area and I can’t name one of them.

I don’t want them to stop featuring people like Gabby Petito. I want them to give a bit of airtime for people like Jelani Day. Or Kylen and Crystal (I learned their names here).

You're ignoring the reason why it's so difficult to track cases of Native Amwerican women who go missing-- which is sadly a common occurrence. It's almost impossible to get the tribal governments to release information or cooperate, and the families interact within the tribes rather than with the mainstream media. This is like asking why we don't care about Amish women who go missing.

[Anonymous]

Getting back to Brian, I would not be at all surprised he murdered the lesbian couple.

It's way too much coincidence that they were all in the same area when the couple was murdered. Brian supposedly has a concealed carry gun of some sort. He's a weirdo, and the women said they had been spooked by a weirdo in the vicinity.

What are the chances?

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Anonymous wrote:Local media are starting to ask officials how much the search is costing "us."

Reportedly somewhere "between 500,000 and 1 million" so far.

Which is like 10 times the money spent on pretty much ALL of the POC that have gone missing this year combined.

It's too bad no one will care if I get murdered.

There are major faults in your logic that you don’t have the courage to be honest about or perhaps you are such a far gone racist that your perspective is distorted:

Here’s the hard truth : the “ media” doesn’t give a damn about Gabby either , nor did they give a shit about Natalie Holloway or Joan Bennet - they just want to make money off of ratings . Period . It’s simple demographics: majority of spenders on products of companies advertised on these networks are white because majority of America is white .

The fact that the story sells - doesn’t mean yours won’t - just find a forum that will back it with $$$$ . Your mistake is you thinking that the media grieve for anyone - maybe the news anchor does - but the execs making those decisions are same guys who supported the Harvey Weinstein of the world - who btw mostly targeted white women

You're calling ME a racist? Not the people who ONLY care that a white girl is missing? The reason the media gets such high ratings is because white people only care about good looking white people.

Your logic is child like.

Consider this : in one breath you allege that ALL white people don’t care about you AND in the same breath ALL white people are obsessed with oppressing you and keeping you down. Which is it because they are diametrically opposed ?

Here’s the truth : AA women are 3x more often the victim of violence by their partner - focus your attention there . THAT is what you should be trying to change and NO don’t even try to say that the reason AA men are beating the WH”t out of their gf and wives is because “ the white media made them do it “ or “ it’s cause of slavery . Deal with IT . Face IT . Maybe demand gun violence laws - gun bans and mandatory jail terms to end violence

But NO instead, let’s play a zero sum game : No one can care about ANYONE- all lives are Sh”t

No way that is gonna happen .

Brian Laundrie and his dirt bag parents are in the news and are being hunted because they have seriously violated societal norms:
1) not manning up and coming forward in Shane when you kill a woman who loved you
2) parents lying to protect their son as opposed to doing the right thing knowing how we ALL feel as parents of our child was missing/ murdered
3) making public fools of the Utah police - BIG Mistake Brian - big mistake

Piss off every grandma , grandpa , mom and COP in America and do it while being an unemployed LOSER and , yes, our society demands a correction - a prosecution and justice because THAT is how we uphold our values - ALL of our values - just like last Summer we all stood up because our values were violated

Valuing Gabby doesn’t mean YOU aren’t valued

While I think you underestimate the cumulative effects of racism and slavery, you're dead on that this story is about violated social norms. And, the killed lesbian couple. I didn't perk up until I understood there were THREE dead ladies, in a national park. I mean, there are SO many national parks horror and true crime stories that I don't even know where to start. American Horror Stories just dedicated an episode to national parks (Feral) and the National Parks killers podcast is on its 11th season. Three dead ladies, in a park? That's fire.

So this is interesting, right? Where is all the news about the lesbians and who killed them? Nothing. You wouldn't know about them if it weren't for Gabby. They're not POC, but they are a minority and you can't relate to them, so you wouldn't really be focused or interested in that story, you'd just say "Oh, that's sad, I hope they find their killer" but there's not a thread about them, nobody is seeking out clues about them, I haven't seen any TikToks about the last time they were spotted, etc...

They were actually a story that was going on before Gabby's. And then they merged.

I don't think you guys can back up your claims that only pretty blonde girls are featured in true crime. I'm a genuine true crime fan, I average 1-2 hours of true crime stories per day and much higher on weekend. While cleaning my house, I'm listening to murder. While walking my dog, those airpods are feeding me murder. I know my murder.

And I can tell you-- and have receipts-- that pretty white women are actually a minority in this genre. Prove it otherwise. The only ones you can probably name are JeanBenet, Natalie Halloway, and now Gabby. That's what... one a decade? No, contrary to what's fashionable to claim, true crime and horror fans actually prefer the more obscure stuff with imperfect victims. Go look on Netflix and see who the victims are these days. People like complex story lines, interesting villains, and relatable victims. JeanBenet, may she rest in peace, is not relatable for most people.

+1

I’m a huge true crime junkie, too, and I second the above. I’d maybe add Amanda Knox to your list, but otherwise I couldn’t name any more white women. I could, however, name +10 Asian and black women who have gone missing. I honestly think it’s just soooo trendy to flag the “white blonde woman” card. Yet, none of these people actually follow the genre or general media coverage.

People are not talking about true crime junkies surfing Netflix. Folks are saying NBC/CBS/ABC are not featuring certain women (or MEN). And it’s true. Hundreds of native women have gone missing in that same area and I can’t name one of them.

I don’t want them to stop featuring people like Gabby Petito. I want them to give a bit of airtime for people like Jelani Day. Or Kylen and Crystal (I learned their names here).

You mean like this bisexual Indian doctor with a substance abuse problem that has been endlessly written about in tabloids? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Sneha_Anne_Philip

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to Brian, I would not be at all surprised he murdered the lesbian couple.

It's way too much coincidence that they were all in the same area when the couple was murdered. Brian supposedly has a concealed carry gun of some sort. He's a weirdo, and the women said they had been spooked by a weirdo in the vicinity.

What are the chances?

Completely agree. I think that stuff about the other guy they arrested with guns and knives is a red herring.

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back to Brian, I would not be at all surprised he murdered the lesbian couple.

It's way too much coincidence that they were all in the same area when the couple was murdered. Brian supposedly has a concealed carry gun of some sort. He's a weirdo, and the women said they had been spooked by a weirdo in the vicinity.

What are the chances?

Agree! The fight between Gabby and Brian at the Moonflower Coop and police cam was Aug 12th I think, they were supposed to stay separated that night, and Kylen and Crystal were last seen Aug 13th at a bar.