With Love, Meghan on Netflix

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You already posted this video of your client.

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So interesting scrolling through the titles of this guys videos.

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is always going to be too much or not enough for middle aged women. It's because they envy her. Her husband gave up everything for her, he protects her and their kids, he is a family man, and he supports her independent projects. She is beautiful, educated, well spoken, has her own career and money and ALL of that was before she met Harry. Together they've most made each other better.

If you look at the women who loudly and proudly talk shit about Meghan... you can see why they are mad. Jealousy makes you ugly on the inside and outside... and the outside of these women is NOT pretty.

Giving up everything (your friends and family) is a red flag. This Hollywood drama isn't what makes a healthy happy marriage.

That said, I am sure plenty of people are jealous of her, and I agree she is stunning.

Babe going no contact because your family is toxic towards you and toxic towards your spouse and kids IS NOT a red flag it's actually the healthiest response. If my family turned the toxic British press on my husband to cover their shenanigans, I would absolutely take him, my kid and leave. Period.

Harry and Meghan did the right thing and certain people will never be over it. So sad for those who cannot live in reality and waste their time spewing hate towards a woman they'll never know and who doesn't know they exist.

Some of these women would've done more for their own lives if they had focused on the elections at home (presidential in the US and Brexit in the UK) and voted their interests. Instead they stay stalking a woman who is minding her own business. Sad.

It is NOT normal to cut your whole family and social circle off. Cutting off 1 person (looking at you, Prince Andrew) or going low contact, sure. But losing your entire social circle and family wouldn't be something most therapists would recommend.

Remember Catherine's black sheep uncle who eventually went on a reality show? Even he hasn't been cut off. It is very extreme to cut multiple family members and friends off, and any good therapist will tell you this. Unfortunately today people act like that is "normal."

Also what's with the "Babe" thing?

DP here.

It's healthy to cut off people who refuse to try and understand or communicate with you as an equal. It's healthy to cut people off when they don't respect your spouse or children. I don't think it's "normal" but the dysfunction in both Harry's family and in Meghan's dad's family is also not "normal" and if they feel they need distance in order to protect themselves and their kids, that's healthy.

I'll also note that Harry actually has not cut off his family. He still sees and is friendly with his cousins and multiple of his friends from pre-Meghan. He has also spoken to his dad. It's a very strained relationship. But it's not like Harry has totally cut these people out of his life forever. He's set boundaries. That's all.

This is a very popular opinion: to “cut off” family who don’t communicate with you as a perceived “equal”.

Unpopular opinion: I disagree and think sometimes maintaining contact on your own terms is best. I was the child of an abusive father and when I became an adult, I learned to structure my visits to my parents very carefully. I didn’t stay in their house, and would visit at the house for a quick meal or meet my parents at a restaurant while I stayed with friends or in a hotel.
This was hard because I was poor as a young adult, but we all made it work.

Harry and Meghan are not poor and could easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms. They have opted to write a tell all book and try to make demands when they visit. Their version of boundaries hurt their families (both my keeping grandkids away from grandparents and cousins) and themselves rather than setting boundaries that help all. It is possible and healthier.

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So interesting scrolling through the titles of this guys videos.

He’s going for next years Mark Twain prize.

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So interesting scrolling through the titles of this guys videos.

Yep. Says a whole lot about the people who make a hobby or living trashing Meghan.

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is always going to be too much or not enough for middle aged women. It's because they envy her. Her husband gave up everything for her, he protects her and their kids, he is a family man, and he supports her independent projects. She is beautiful, educated, well spoken, has her own career and money and ALL of that was before she met Harry. Together they've most made each other better.

If you look at the women who loudly and proudly talk shit about Meghan... you can see why they are mad. Jealousy makes you ugly on the inside and outside... and the outside of these women is NOT pretty.

Giving up everything (your friends and family) is a red flag. This Hollywood drama isn't what makes a healthy happy marriage.

That said, I am sure plenty of people are jealous of her, and I agree she is stunning.

Babe going no contact because your family is toxic towards you and toxic towards your spouse and kids IS NOT a red flag it's actually the healthiest response. If my family turned the toxic British press on my husband to cover their shenanigans, I would absolutely take him, my kid and leave. Period.

Harry and Meghan did the right thing and certain people will never be over it. So sad for those who cannot live in reality and waste their time spewing hate towards a woman they'll never know and who doesn't know they exist.

Some of these women would've done more for their own lives if they had focused on the elections at home (presidential in the US and Brexit in the UK) and voted their interests. Instead they stay stalking a woman who is minding her own business. Sad.

It is NOT normal to cut your whole family and social circle off. Cutting off 1 person (looking at you, Prince Andrew) or going low contact, sure. But losing your entire social circle and family wouldn't be something most therapists would recommend.

Remember Catherine's black sheep uncle who eventually went on a reality show? Even he hasn't been cut off. It is very extreme to cut multiple family members and friends off, and any good therapist will tell you this. Unfortunately today people act like that is "normal."

Also what's with the "Babe" thing?

DP here.

It's healthy to cut off people who refuse to try and understand or communicate with you as an equal. It's healthy to cut people off when they don't respect your spouse or children. I don't think it's "normal" but the dysfunction in both Harry's family and in Meghan's dad's family is also not "normal" and if they feel they need distance in order to protect themselves and their kids, that's healthy.

I'll also note that Harry actually has not cut off his family. He still sees and is friendly with his cousins and multiple of his friends from pre-Meghan. He has also spoken to his dad. It's a very strained relationship. But it's not like Harry has totally cut these people out of his life forever. He's set boundaries. That's all.

This is a very popular opinion: to “cut off” family who don’t communicate with you as a perceived “equal”.

Unpopular opinion: I disagree and think sometimes maintaining contact on your own terms is best. I was the child of an abusive father and when I became an adult, I learned to structure my visits to my parents very carefully. I didn’t stay in their house, and would visit at the house for a quick meal or meet my parents at a restaurant while I stayed with friends or in a hotel.
This was hard because I was poor as a young adult, but we all made it work.

Harry and Meghan are not poor and could easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms. They have opted to write a tell all book and try to make demands when they visit. Their version of boundaries hurt their families (both my keeping grandkids away from grandparents and cousins) and themselves rather than setting boundaries that help all. It is possible and healthier.

How do you know they haven't tried to renew contact on their own terms? Harry tried to meet with Charles who refused a meeting. Apparently they exchange kids' Christmas gifts. And, Harry wrote the book to set the record straight because Charles, Camilla, William and Kate either gave the tabloids the ugly stories about Harry and Meghan or refused to deny the ugly stories (see the flower girl dresses).

-- somebody with an abusive sister (as in, threw me against a bookcase, for starters) who also maintains contact by structuring that contact very carefully

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Anonymous wrote:Some people like Meghan, Hilaria and BL are just very big topics because of their ventures, lawsuits, scandals, their high profile...You could start threads about 95% of actors and actresses here and they would not have traction the way these few do. How many times can you say Nicole Kidman is a great actress who did too much botox, Halle Berry looks stunning, Scarjo was great on the today show? There needs to be "something" to gossip about, and that requires some degree of great exposure + controversy + negative opinions and disagreement.

In Meghan's case it goes beyond idle gossip, though. It's a level of hatred that borders on insanity. I mean, why get so worked up about a woman who married into another country's royal family? The OTT hatred is actually consistent with people knowing deep down that she really was treated horribly by the British royal family and press, but the haters just can't live with that cognitive dissonance so instead they go apesh!t on her. At least that's a psychologically coherent explanation, as opposed to the haters just being losers with too much pent-up rage and too much time on their hands....

Well, they claim it's because she "disrespected" that royal family but that doesn't make sense to me either because guess what! They aren't our royal family! I could give two shits if some C-list actress makes fun of curtsying to a dusty old crone who believed she was ordained by God to be better than other people.

You can have your opinion, but the Queen was a deeply religious person who spent her life in service of her country. She could have walked away and just been a private citizen who was free to enjoy her immense wealth. I think it's important to recognize that.

It's really not. Other than military service, the royals' "service to their country" consists of going to pony shows and cutting ribbons. Even the "hard working" royals like Anne cut one ribbon a day, as opposed to William and Kate who use their kids to get out of shit. (and they were doing that before Kate had cancer.)

Meghan has made some missteps over the years and is far from perfect but the weird loyalty to the royals from (presumably, on a DC-based forum) Americans is so odd.

Word. Meghan isn't perfect, but what is going on in the heads of American detractors who spend their days trashing her here and on the Daily Mail? Liking the Queen (as I do too) doesn't mean you have to believe the proven lie that Meghan "make Kate cry" or that the curtsy video was anything more than Meghan mocking herself. Or that William and Kate were fine to brief the press about how Kate was too frail to ever work egain, you monsters, at the same time that Kate was papped skiing in Switzerland. Or that William and Kate skipping BAFTAs for Mustique was A-OK. At least Charles is working a lot, and through what appears to be continuing cancer treatment, so respect there.

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is always going to be too much or not enough for middle aged women. It's because they envy her. Her husband gave up everything for her, he protects her and their kids, he is a family man, and he supports her independent projects. She is beautiful, educated, well spoken, has her own career and money and ALL of that was before she met Harry. Together they've most made each other better.

If you look at the women who loudly and proudly talk shit about Meghan... you can see why they are mad. Jealousy makes you ugly on the inside and outside... and the outside of these women is NOT pretty.

Giving up everything (your friends and family) is a red flag. This Hollywood drama isn't what makes a healthy happy marriage.

That said, I am sure plenty of people are jealous of her, and I agree she is stunning.

Babe going no contact because your family is toxic towards you and toxic towards your spouse and kids IS NOT a red flag it's actually the healthiest response. If my family turned the toxic British press on my husband to cover their shenanigans, I would absolutely take him, my kid and leave. Period.

Harry and Meghan did the right thing and certain people will never be over it. So sad for those who cannot live in reality and waste their time spewing hate towards a woman they'll never know and who doesn't know they exist.

Some of these women would've done more for their own lives if they had focused on the elections at home (presidential in the US and Brexit in the UK) and voted their interests. Instead they stay stalking a woman who is minding her own business. Sad.

It is NOT normal to cut your whole family and social circle off. Cutting off 1 person (looking at you, Prince Andrew) or going low contact, sure. But losing your entire social circle and family wouldn't be something most therapists would recommend.

Remember Catherine's black sheep uncle who eventually went on a reality show? Even he hasn't been cut off. It is very extreme to cut multiple family members and friends off, and any good therapist will tell you this. Unfortunately today people act like that is "normal."

Also what's with the "Babe" thing?

DP here.

It's healthy to cut off people who refuse to try and understand or communicate with you as an equal. It's healthy to cut people off when they don't respect your spouse or children. I don't think it's "normal" but the dysfunction in both Harry's family and in Meghan's dad's family is also not "normal" and if they feel they need distance in order to protect themselves and their kids, that's healthy.

I'll also note that Harry actually has not cut off his family. He still sees and is friendly with his cousins and multiple of his friends from pre-Meghan. He has also spoken to his dad. It's a very strained relationship. But it's not like Harry has totally cut these people out of his life forever. He's set boundaries. That's all.

This is a very popular opinion: to “cut off” family who don’t communicate with you as a perceived “equal”.

Unpopular opinion: I disagree and think sometimes maintaining contact on your own terms is best. I was the child of an abusive father and when I became an adult, I learned to structure my visits to my parents very carefully. I didn’t stay in their house, and would visit at the house for a quick meal or meet my parents at a restaurant while I stayed with friends or in a hotel.
This was hard because I was poor as a young adult, but we all made it work.

Harry and Meghan are not poor and could easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms. They have opted to write a tell all book and try to make demands when they visit. Their version of boundaries hurt their families (both my keeping grandkids away from grandparents and cousins) and themselves rather than setting boundaries that help all. It is possible and healthier.

Again, they haven't cut off Harry's whole family. They are friends with Harry's cousins and appear to vacation with them in Portugal where their kids hang out. Harry has been back to visit more than once, including for his dad's coronation, and has spoken to him since his cancer diagnosis. No one in Harry's family has come to visit him in the US, however, and even when Will and Catherine came to the US recently, they made no effort to go see Harry and Meghan. So it actually looks like either Will and Harry have mutually decided not to interact, or Will and Catherine have cut off Harry.

Also, it's hilarious to me that you say they could "easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms" but then criticize them for trying "to make demands when they visit." Which is it? You are advocating for Harry to set boundaries with his family. Well, he's done that (again, while still maintaining contact and visiting them). Yet apparently he's still in the wrong. Why is there no expectation that Charles or William would also make an effort? It's baffling to me. This schism is quite clearly multi-sided, yet Harry (and really, Meghan) is blamed for the entire thing. As though Charles and William don't have any responsibility. Makes no sense.

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https://youtu.be/6_a54xaLxPA?feature=shared

Dr. Grande must be a DCUM poster

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is always going to be too much or not enough for middle aged women. It's because they envy her. Her husband gave up everything for her, he protects her and their kids, he is a family man, and he supports her independent projects. She is beautiful, educated, well spoken, has her own career and money and ALL of that was before she met Harry. Together they've most made each other better.

If you look at the women who loudly and proudly talk shit about Meghan... you can see why they are mad. Jealousy makes you ugly on the inside and outside... and the outside of these women is NOT pretty.

Giving up everything (your friends and family) is a red flag. This Hollywood drama isn't what makes a healthy happy marriage.

That said, I am sure plenty of people are jealous of her, and I agree she is stunning.

Babe going no contact because your family is toxic towards you and toxic towards your spouse and kids IS NOT a red flag it's actually the healthiest response. If my family turned the toxic British press on my husband to cover their shenanigans, I would absolutely take him, my kid and leave. Period.

Harry and Meghan did the right thing and certain people will never be over it. So sad for those who cannot live in reality and waste their time spewing hate towards a woman they'll never know and who doesn't know they exist.

Some of these women would've done more for their own lives if they had focused on the elections at home (presidential in the US and Brexit in the UK) and voted their interests. Instead they stay stalking a woman who is minding her own business. Sad.

It is NOT normal to cut your whole family and social circle off. Cutting off 1 person (looking at you, Prince Andrew) or going low contact, sure. But losing your entire social circle and family wouldn't be something most therapists would recommend.

Remember Catherine's black sheep uncle who eventually went on a reality show? Even he hasn't been cut off. It is very extreme to cut multiple family members and friends off, and any good therapist will tell you this. Unfortunately today people act like that is "normal."

Also what's with the "Babe" thing?

DP here.

It's healthy to cut off people who refuse to try and understand or communicate with you as an equal. It's healthy to cut people off when they don't respect your spouse or children. I don't think it's "normal" but the dysfunction in both Harry's family and in Meghan's dad's family is also not "normal" and if they feel they need distance in order to protect themselves and their kids, that's healthy.

I'll also note that Harry actually has not cut off his family. He still sees and is friendly with his cousins and multiple of his friends from pre-Meghan. He has also spoken to his dad. It's a very strained relationship. But it's not like Harry has totally cut these people out of his life forever. He's set boundaries. That's all.

This is a very popular opinion: to “cut off” family who don’t communicate with you as a perceived “equal”.

Unpopular opinion: I disagree and think sometimes maintaining contact on your own terms is best. I was the child of an abusive father and when I became an adult, I learned to structure my visits to my parents very carefully. I didn’t stay in their house, and would visit at the house for a quick meal or meet my parents at a restaurant while I stayed with friends or in a hotel.
This was hard because I was poor as a young adult, but we all made it work.

Harry and Meghan are not poor and could easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms. They have opted to write a tell all book and try to make demands when they visit. Their version of boundaries hurt their families (both my keeping grandkids away from grandparents and cousins) and themselves rather than setting boundaries that help all. It is possible and healthier.

How do you know they haven't tried to renew contact on their own terms? Harry tried to meet with Charles who refused a meeting. Apparently they exchange kids' Christmas gifts. And, Harry wrote the book to set the record straight because Charles, Camilla, William and Kate either gave the tabloids the ugly stories about Harry and Meghan or refused to deny the ugly stories (see the flower girl dresses).

-- somebody with an abusive sister (as in, threw me against a bookcase, for starters) who also maintains contact by structuring that contact very carefully

ITA. Harry has not been perfect but I find that understandable because his family is SO AWFUL to him. I find the whole royal family ridiculous and think most of these people would be better off, and more personally fulfilled, if they could have just had normal lives with normal jobs. Being a royal should be in the DSM-V. It's a stupid "job" and I think gives you serious mental health issues. So I actually have empathy for all of them. But Harry at least acknowledges what's awful about it publicly. Which is also what his mom did, and she is posthumously beloved for it (she got plenty of criticism for when she was alive).

I think the same will happen with Harry. 50 years from now people will look back on this whole incident and I think Harry will look like the canary in the coal mine, Meghan will look like an innocent bystander, and Charles, Camilla, William, and Kate will look like the dinosaurs they are, trying to defend an inexcusable and outdated system. And the sad thing is that Charles really did want to modernize the monarchy. But I actually think it is William standing in his way -- William and Kate want to be old style royals, where they are adored from afar and held accountable for nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is always going to be too much or not enough for middle aged women. It's because they envy her. Her husband gave up everything for her, he protects her and their kids, he is a family man, and he supports her independent projects. She is beautiful, educated, well spoken, has her own career and money and ALL of that was before she met Harry. Together they've most made each other better.

If you look at the women who loudly and proudly talk shit about Meghan... you can see why they are mad. Jealousy makes you ugly on the inside and outside... and the outside of these women is NOT pretty.

Giving up everything (your friends and family) is a red flag. This Hollywood drama isn't what makes a healthy happy marriage.

That said, I am sure plenty of people are jealous of her, and I agree she is stunning.

Babe going no contact because your family is toxic towards you and toxic towards your spouse and kids IS NOT a red flag it's actually the healthiest response. If my family turned the toxic British press on my husband to cover their shenanigans, I would absolutely take him, my kid and leave. Period.

Harry and Meghan did the right thing and certain people will never be over it. So sad for those who cannot live in reality and waste their time spewing hate towards a woman they'll never know and who doesn't know they exist.

Some of these women would've done more for their own lives if they had focused on the elections at home (presidential in the US and Brexit in the UK) and voted their interests. Instead they stay stalking a woman who is minding her own business. Sad.

It is NOT normal to cut your whole family and social circle off. Cutting off 1 person (looking at you, Prince Andrew) or going low contact, sure. But losing your entire social circle and family wouldn't be something most therapists would recommend.

Remember Catherine's black sheep uncle who eventually went on a reality show? Even he hasn't been cut off. It is very extreme to cut multiple family members and friends off, and any good therapist will tell you this. Unfortunately today people act like that is "normal."

Also what's with the "Babe" thing?

DP here.

It's healthy to cut off people who refuse to try and understand or communicate with you as an equal. It's healthy to cut people off when they don't respect your spouse or children. I don't think it's "normal" but the dysfunction in both Harry's family and in Meghan's dad's family is also not "normal" and if they feel they need distance in order to protect themselves and their kids, that's healthy.

I'll also note that Harry actually has not cut off his family. He still sees and is friendly with his cousins and multiple of his friends from pre-Meghan. He has also spoken to his dad. It's a very strained relationship. But it's not like Harry has totally cut these people out of his life forever. He's set boundaries. That's all.

This is a very popular opinion: to “cut off” family who don’t communicate with you as a perceived “equal”.

Unpopular opinion: I disagree and think sometimes maintaining contact on your own terms is best. I was the child of an abusive father and when I became an adult, I learned to structure my visits to my parents very carefully. I didn’t stay in their house, and would visit at the house for a quick meal or meet my parents at a restaurant while I stayed with friends or in a hotel.
This was hard because I was poor as a young adult, but we all made it work.

Harry and Meghan are not poor and could easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms. They have opted to write a tell all book and try to make demands when they visit. Their version of boundaries hurt their families (both my keeping grandkids away from grandparents and cousins) and themselves rather than setting boundaries that help all. It is possible and healthier.

How do you know they haven't tried to renew contact on their own terms? Harry tried to meet with Charles who refused a meeting. Apparently they exchange kids' Christmas gifts. And, Harry wrote the book to set the record straight because Charles, Camilla, William and Kate either gave the tabloids the ugly stories about Harry and Meghan or refused to deny the ugly stories (see the flower girl dresses).

-- somebody with an abusive sister (as in, threw me against a bookcase, for starters) who also maintains contact by structuring that contact very carefully

ITA. Harry has not been perfect but I find that understandable because his family is SO AWFUL to him. I find the whole royal family ridiculous and think most of these people would be better off, and more personally fulfilled, if they could have just had normal lives with normal jobs. Being a royal should be in the DSM-V. It's a stupid "job" and I think gives you serious mental health issues. So I actually have empathy for all of them. But Harry at least acknowledges what's awful about it publicly. Which is also what his mom did, and she is posthumously beloved for it (she got plenty of criticism for when she was alive).

I think the same will happen with Harry. 50 years from now people will look back on this whole incident and I think Harry will look like the canary in the coal mine, Meghan will look like an innocent bystander, and Charles, Camilla, William, and Kate will look like the dinosaurs they are, trying to defend an inexcusable and outdated system. And the sad thing is that Charles really did want to modernize the monarchy. But I actually think it is William standing in his way -- William and Kate want to be old style royals, where they are adored from afar and held accountable for nothing.

I could see your point if Meghan and Harry gave up their titles. They are actively using their link to the royal family for personal gain, while badmouthing the royal family. Of course the RF members still in the system are not going to do this. You cannot badmouth your job. But at least the public benefits from it via tourism income. As for William and Kate not wanting to be "accountable"...accountable for what exactly? What have they done wrong or not done that Prince Charles has done?

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is always going to be too much or not enough for middle aged women. It's because they envy her. Her husband gave up everything for her, he protects her and their kids, he is a family man, and he supports her independent projects. She is beautiful, educated, well spoken, has her own career and money and ALL of that was before she met Harry. Together they've most made each other better.

If you look at the women who loudly and proudly talk shit about Meghan... you can see why they are mad. Jealousy makes you ugly on the inside and outside... and the outside of these women is NOT pretty.

Giving up everything (your friends and family) is a red flag. This Hollywood drama isn't what makes a healthy happy marriage.

That said, I am sure plenty of people are jealous of her, and I agree she is stunning.

Babe going no contact because your family is toxic towards you and toxic towards your spouse and kids IS NOT a red flag it's actually the healthiest response. If my family turned the toxic British press on my husband to cover their shenanigans, I would absolutely take him, my kid and leave. Period.

Harry and Meghan did the right thing and certain people will never be over it. So sad for those who cannot live in reality and waste their time spewing hate towards a woman they'll never know and who doesn't know they exist.

Some of these women would've done more for their own lives if they had focused on the elections at home (presidential in the US and Brexit in the UK) and voted their interests. Instead they stay stalking a woman who is minding her own business. Sad.

It is NOT normal to cut your whole family and social circle off. Cutting off 1 person (looking at you, Prince Andrew) or going low contact, sure. But losing your entire social circle and family wouldn't be something most therapists would recommend.

Remember Catherine's black sheep uncle who eventually went on a reality show? Even he hasn't been cut off. It is very extreme to cut multiple family members and friends off, and any good therapist will tell you this. Unfortunately today people act like that is "normal."

Also what's with the "Babe" thing?

DP here.

It's healthy to cut off people who refuse to try and understand or communicate with you as an equal. It's healthy to cut people off when they don't respect your spouse or children. I don't think it's "normal" but the dysfunction in both Harry's family and in Meghan's dad's family is also not "normal" and if they feel they need distance in order to protect themselves and their kids, that's healthy.

I'll also note that Harry actually has not cut off his family. He still sees and is friendly with his cousins and multiple of his friends from pre-Meghan. He has also spoken to his dad. It's a very strained relationship. But it's not like Harry has totally cut these people out of his life forever. He's set boundaries. That's all.

This is a very popular opinion: to “cut off” family who don’t communicate with you as a perceived “equal”.

Unpopular opinion: I disagree and think sometimes maintaining contact on your own terms is best. I was the child of an abusive father and when I became an adult, I learned to structure my visits to my parents very carefully. I didn’t stay in their house, and would visit at the house for a quick meal or meet my parents at a restaurant while I stayed with friends or in a hotel.
This was hard because I was poor as a young adult, but we all made it work.

Harry and Meghan are not poor and could easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms. They have opted to write a tell all book and try to make demands when they visit. Their version of boundaries hurt their families (both my keeping grandkids away from grandparents and cousins) and themselves rather than setting boundaries that help all. It is possible and healthier.

As both come from broken families, they don't owe it to them to try to play happy families.

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is always going to be too much or not enough for middle aged women. It's because they envy her. Her husband gave up everything for her, he protects her and their kids, he is a family man, and he supports her independent projects. She is beautiful, educated, well spoken, has her own career and money and ALL of that was before she met Harry. Together they've most made each other better.

If you look at the women who loudly and proudly talk shit about Meghan... you can see why they are mad. Jealousy makes you ugly on the inside and outside... and the outside of these women is NOT pretty.

Giving up everything (your friends and family) is a red flag. This Hollywood drama isn't what makes a healthy happy marriage.

That said, I am sure plenty of people are jealous of her, and I agree she is stunning.

Babe going no contact because your family is toxic towards you and toxic towards your spouse and kids IS NOT a red flag it's actually the healthiest response. If my family turned the toxic British press on my husband to cover their shenanigans, I would absolutely take him, my kid and leave. Period.

Harry and Meghan did the right thing and certain people will never be over it. So sad for those who cannot live in reality and waste their time spewing hate towards a woman they'll never know and who doesn't know they exist.

Some of these women would've done more for their own lives if they had focused on the elections at home (presidential in the US and Brexit in the UK) and voted their interests. Instead they stay stalking a woman who is minding her own business. Sad.

It is NOT normal to cut your whole family and social circle off. Cutting off 1 person (looking at you, Prince Andrew) or going low contact, sure. But losing your entire social circle and family wouldn't be something most therapists would recommend.

Remember Catherine's black sheep uncle who eventually went on a reality show? Even he hasn't been cut off. It is very extreme to cut multiple family members and friends off, and any good therapist will tell you this. Unfortunately today people act like that is "normal."

Also what's with the "Babe" thing?

DP here.

It's healthy to cut off people who refuse to try and understand or communicate with you as an equal. It's healthy to cut people off when they don't respect your spouse or children. I don't think it's "normal" but the dysfunction in both Harry's family and in Meghan's dad's family is also not "normal" and if they feel they need distance in order to protect themselves and their kids, that's healthy.

I'll also note that Harry actually has not cut off his family. He still sees and is friendly with his cousins and multiple of his friends from pre-Meghan. He has also spoken to his dad. It's a very strained relationship. But it's not like Harry has totally cut these people out of his life forever. He's set boundaries. That's all.

This is a very popular opinion: to “cut off” family who don’t communicate with you as a perceived “equal”.

Unpopular opinion: I disagree and think sometimes maintaining contact on your own terms is best. I was the child of an abusive father and when I became an adult, I learned to structure my visits to my parents very carefully. I didn’t stay in their house, and would visit at the house for a quick meal or meet my parents at a restaurant while I stayed with friends or in a hotel.
This was hard because I was poor as a young adult, but we all made it work.

Harry and Meghan are not poor and could easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms. They have opted to write a tell all book and try to make demands when they visit. Their version of boundaries hurt their families (both my keeping grandkids away from grandparents and cousins) and themselves rather than setting boundaries that help all. It is possible and healthier.

Again, they haven't cut off Harry's whole family. They are friends with Harry's cousins and appear to vacation with them in Portugal where their kids hang out. Harry has been back to visit more than once, including for his dad's coronation, and has spoken to him since his cancer diagnosis. No one in Harry's family has come to visit him in the US, however, and even when Will and Catherine came to the US recently, they made no effort to go see Harry and Meghan. So it actually looks like either Will and Harry have mutually decided not to interact, or Will and Catherine have cut off Harry.

Also, it's hilarious to me that you say they could "easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms" but then criticize them for trying "to make demands when they visit." Which is it? You are advocating for Harry to set boundaries with his family. Well, he's done that (again, while still maintaining contact and visiting them). Yet apparently he's still in the wrong. Why is there no expectation that Charles or William would also make an effort? It's baffling to me. This schism is quite clearly multi-sided, yet Harry (and really, Meghan) is blamed for the entire thing. As though Charles and William don't have any responsibility. Makes no sense.

Because Harry doesn't have to worry about Charles or William writing a book chronicling every conversation they've ever had.

Family ties aside, I would be very cautious of engaging with Harry if I was in their place. The boy reports everything to the media, and through his own lens.

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Anonymous wrote:Some people like Meghan, Hilaria and BL are just very big topics because of their ventures, lawsuits, scandals, their high profile...You could start threads about 95% of actors and actresses here and they would not have traction the way these few do. How many times can you say Nicole Kidman is a great actress who did too much botox, Halle Berry looks stunning, Scarjo was great on the today show? There needs to be "something" to gossip about, and that requires some degree of great exposure + controversy + negative opinions and disagreement.

In Meghan's case it goes beyond idle gossip, though. It's a level of hatred that borders on insanity. I mean, why get so worked up about a woman who married into another country's royal family? The OTT hatred is actually consistent with people knowing deep down that she really was treated horribly by the British royal family and press, but the haters just can't live with that cognitive dissonance so instead they go apesh!t on her. At least that's a psychologically coherent explanation, as opposed to the haters just being losers with too much pent-up rage and too much time on their hands....

Well, they claim it's because she "disrespected" that royal family but that doesn't make sense to me either because guess what! They aren't our royal family! I could give two shits if some C-list actress makes fun of curtsying to a dusty old crone who believed she was ordained by God to be better than other people.

You can have your opinion, but the Queen was a deeply religious person who spent her life in service of her country. She could have walked away and just been a private citizen who was free to enjoy her immense wealth. I think it's important to recognize that.

It's really not. Other than military service, the royals' "service to their country" consists of going to pony shows and cutting ribbons. Even the "hard working" royals like Anne cut one ribbon a day, as opposed to William and Kate who use their kids to get out of shit. (and they were doing that before Kate had cancer.)

Meghan has made some missteps over the years and is far from perfect but the weird loyalty to the royals from (presumably, on a DC-based forum) Americans is so odd.

Word. Meghan isn't perfect, but what is going on in the heads of American detractors who spend their days trashing her here and on the Daily Mail? Liking the Queen (as I do too) doesn't mean you have to believe the proven lie that Meghan "make Kate cry" or that the curtsy video was anything more than Meghan mocking herself. Or that William and Kate were fine to brief the press about how Kate was too frail to ever work egain, you monsters, at the same time that Kate was papped skiing in Switzerland. Or that William and Kate skipping BAFTAs for Mustique was A-OK. At least Charles is working a lot, and through what appears to be continuing cancer treatment, so respect there.

The problem is not that people have opinions of Meghan. The problem is the people who appoint themselves to police the opinions. It is absolutely not needed. If you don't like the opinions find something else to read.

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Anonymous wrote:Meghan is always going to be too much or not enough for middle aged women. It's because they envy her. Her husband gave up everything for her, he protects her and their kids, he is a family man, and he supports her independent projects. She is beautiful, educated, well spoken, has her own career and money and ALL of that was before she met Harry. Together they've most made each other better.

Meghan calls her kid a princess even though the kid has never set foot in the U.K. and probably never will unless Meghan and Harry divorce. It's just so pretentious to sit in Montecito, CA flaunting your British title. If a former member of Congress moved to England and insisted on being called Congressman everywhere he/she went. the person would be laughed out of the country.

If you look at the women who loudly and proudly talk shit about Meghan... you can see why they are mad. Jealousy makes you ugly on the inside and outside... and the outside of these women is NOT pretty.

Giving up everything (your friends and family) is a red flag. This Hollywood drama isn't what makes a healthy happy marriage.

That said, I am sure plenty of people are jealous of her, and I agree she is stunning.

Babe going no contact because your family is toxic towards you and toxic towards your spouse and kids IS NOT a red flag it's actually the healthiest response. If my family turned the toxic British press on my husband to cover their shenanigans, I would absolutely take him, my kid and leave. Period.

Harry and Meghan did the right thing and certain people will never be over it. So sad for those who cannot live in reality and waste their time spewing hate towards a woman they'll never know and who doesn't know they exist.

Some of these women would've done more for their own lives if they had focused on the elections at home (presidential in the US and Brexit in the UK) and voted their interests. Instead they stay stalking a woman who is minding her own business. Sad.

It is NOT normal to cut your whole family and social circle off. Cutting off 1 person (looking at you, Prince Andrew) or going low contact, sure. But losing your entire social circle and family wouldn't be something most therapists would recommend.

Remember Catherine's black sheep uncle who eventually went on a reality show? Even he hasn't been cut off. It is very extreme to cut multiple family members and friends off, and any good therapist will tell you this. Unfortunately today people act like that is "normal."

Also what's with the "Babe" thing?

DP here.

It's healthy to cut off people who refuse to try and understand or communicate with you as an equal. It's healthy to cut people off when they don't respect your spouse or children. I don't think it's "normal" but the dysfunction in both Harry's family and in Meghan's dad's family is also not "normal" and if they feel they need distance in order to protect themselves and their kids, that's healthy.

I'll also note that Harry actually has not cut off his family. He still sees and is friendly with his cousins and multiple of his friends from pre-Meghan. He has also spoken to his dad. It's a very strained relationship. But it's not like Harry has totally cut these people out of his life forever. He's set boundaries. That's all.

This is a very popular opinion: to “cut off” family who don’t communicate with you as a perceived “equal”.

Unpopular opinion: I disagree and think sometimes maintaining contact on your own terms is best. I was the child of an abusive father and when I became an adult, I learned to structure my visits to my parents very carefully. I didn’t stay in their house, and would visit at the house for a quick meal or meet my parents at a restaurant while I stayed with friends or in a hotel.
This was hard because I was poor as a young adult, but we all made it work.

Harry and Meghan are not poor and could easily structure visits with the family on their own time and terms. They have opted to write a tell all book and try to make demands when they visit. Their version of boundaries hurt their families (both my keeping grandkids away from grandparents and cousins) and themselves rather than setting boundaries that help all. It is possible and healthier.

How do you know they haven't tried to renew contact on their own terms? Harry tried to meet with Charles who refused a meeting. Apparently they exchange kids' Christmas gifts. And, Harry wrote the book to set the record straight because Charles, Camilla, William and Kate either gave the tabloids the ugly stories about Harry and Meghan or refused to deny the ugly stories (see the flower girl dresses).

-- somebody with an abusive sister (as in, threw me against a bookcase, for starters) who also maintains contact by structuring that contact very carefully

ITA. Harry has not been perfect but I find that understandable because his family is SO AWFUL to him. I find the whole royal family ridiculous and think most of these people would be better off, and more personally fulfilled, if they could have just had normal lives with normal jobs. Being a royal should be in the DSM-V. It's a stupid "job" and I think gives you serious mental health issues. So I actually have empathy for all of them. But Harry at least acknowledges what's awful about it publicly. Which is also what his mom did, and she is posthumously beloved for it (she got plenty of criticism for when she was alive).

I think the same will happen with Harry. 50 years from now people will look back on this whole incident and I think Harry will look like the canary in the coal mine, Meghan will look like an innocent bystander, and Charles, Camilla, William, and Kate will look like the dinosaurs they are, trying to defend an inexcusable and outdated system. And the sad thing is that Charles really did want to modernize the monarchy. But I actually think it is William standing in his way -- William and Kate want to be old style royals, where they are adored from afar and held accountable for nothing.

I could see your point if Meghan and Harry gave up their titles. They are actively using their link to the royal family for personal gain, while badmouthing the royal family. Of course the RF members still in the system are not going to do this. You cannot badmouth your job. But at least the public benefits from it via tourism income. As for William and Kate not wanting to be "accountable"...accountable for what exactly? What have they done wrong or not done that Prince Charles has done?