Skinny is the new moral/hard working and all other kind of superiority?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

Yes, I actually do think that humans changed to have less self control and that is why we have so many obese people today. It's about choices and lifestyle. Now there are so many more bad choices to tempt us. It's so much easier and appealing to swing through McDonald's drive-though for a Big Mac and shake than cook chicken, veggies, and rice from scratch. It's so much easier to consistently eat a sleeve of cookies in one sitting once opening the bag than after baking an entire batch from scratch. These low-effort, high empty calorie options were not available before around the 70s or 80s.

But, ultimately they are still choices. It is more challenging to eat healthy, but we each make decisions each day in terms of what we put into our body. And before you come @ me, yes I do understand that their are some people who eat healthy and are still overweight. I do understand that there are some people who are obese due to trauma. But the relative proportion of these individuals is small in terms of the overall growth of obesity in the last 50 years.

As other countries food industries become more Americanized, they are faced the same challenge of additional enticing but low nutrition options.

Okay do you have any evidence for your belief that humans have actually changed to have less self-control in a span of 50 years?

We get it, PP. Obesity 100% just happens to people, no role whatsoever for free will, discipline, or common sense.

Come on. You know I didn’t say that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

If you don't live in a food desert, you can choose not to eat at McDonalds. And if you do eat at McDonalds you can choose not to supersize your meal (originally an adult portion was the current kids meal portion today). Not a single person is under any illusion that it's healthy. As PPs noted, takes less time and money to make a bowl of oatmeal or a sandwich and grab a piece of fruit.

But do you really believe it’s that simple? I agree that what you’re saying is the healthier choice, but if it’s all just about choices and there isn’t some deeper societal issue going on, why are some societies healthier than others?

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The deeper social issue is that over time, people have become completely disconnected from their food. And they have become lazy. Very few people grow their own food. That takes discipline and a whole lot of hard, physical work. Making a bowl of oatmeal requires more work than grabbing a burger from McDonald’s on he way home. Going to the grocery store requires planning and effort. Calling Door Dash is easy.

Most people don’t hunt or fish. They don’t farm. They don’t have chickens or cows. The art of cooking a family meal is dying. Kids are over scheduled. Parents are working long hours in sedentary jobs. You don’t even have to get off your ass to change the television channel anymore. You could literally run your life from a recliner. The only solution is a complete shift. And that requires effort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

If you don't live in a food desert, you can choose not to eat at McDonalds. And if you do eat at McDonalds you can choose not to supersize your meal (originally an adult portion was the current kids meal portion today). Not a single person is under any illusion that it's healthy. As PPs noted, takes less time and money to make a bowl of oatmeal or a sandwich and grab a piece of fruit.

But do you really believe it’s that simple? I agree that what you’re saying is the healthier choice, but if it’s all just about choices and there isn’t some deeper societal issue going on, why are some societies healthier than others?

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The deeper social issue is that over time, people have become completely disconnected from their food. And they have become lazy. Very few people grow their own food. That takes discipline and a whole lot of hard, physical work. Making a bowl of oatmeal requires more work than grabbing a burger from McDonald’s on he way home. Going to the grocery store requires planning and effort. Calling Door Dash is easy.

Most people don’t hunt or fish. They don’t farm. They don’t have chickens or cows. The art of cooking a family meal is dying. Kids are over scheduled. Parents are working long hours in sedentary jobs. You don’t even have to get off your ass to change the television channel anymore. You could literally run your life from a recliner. The only solution is a complete shift. And that requires effort.

I mostly agree with you, but maintain that much of what you call "lazy" is really stressed and exhausted. Think more about why the family is going through the drive thru at McDonald's. It might have something to do with the fact that they are all starving and cooking would mean that dinner is an hour away. I mean, I didn't eat lunch at school at 11 a.m. or even earlier, did you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

If you don't live in a food desert, you can choose not to eat at McDonalds. And if you do eat at McDonalds you can choose not to supersize your meal (originally an adult portion was the current kids meal portion today). Not a single person is under any illusion that it's healthy. As PPs noted, takes less time and money to make a bowl of oatmeal or a sandwich and grab a piece of fruit.

But do you really believe it’s that simple? I agree that what you’re saying is the healthier choice, but if it’s all just about choices and there isn’t some deeper societal issue going on, why are some societies healthier than others?

.

The deeper social issue is that over time, people have become completely disconnected from their food. And they have become lazy. Very few people grow their own food. That takes discipline and a whole lot of hard, physical work. Making a bowl of oatmeal requires more work than grabbing a burger from McDonald’s on he way home. Going to the grocery store requires planning and effort. Calling Door Dash is easy.

Most people don’t hunt or fish. They don’t farm. They don’t have chickens or cows. The art of cooking a family meal is dying. Kids are over scheduled. Parents are working long hours in sedentary jobs. You don’t even have to get off your ass to change the television channel anymore. You could literally run your life from a recliner. The only solution is a complete shift. And that requires effort.

I mostly agree with you, but maintain that much of what you call "lazy" is really stressed and exhausted. Think more about why the family is going through the drive thru at McDonald's. It might have something to do with the fact that they are all starving and cooking would mean that dinner is an hour away. I mean, I didn't eat lunch at school at 11 a.m. or even earlier, did you?

I get being exhausted. But that’s where the self-discipline comes in. Cereal with milk and fruit takes no time at all to serve. But if you haven’t planned ahead, you may not have milk at home. If the kids are cranky in the car, keep a bag of snacks with you. Give them an apple. Pretzels. Even a few goldfish crackers to hold them till dinner. My kids ate plenty of Happy Meals. But it wasn’t a regular occurrence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

If you don't live in a food desert, you can choose not to eat at McDonalds. And if you do eat at McDonalds you can choose not to supersize your meal (originally an adult portion was the current kids meal portion today). Not a single person is under any illusion that it's healthy. As PPs noted, takes less time and money to make a bowl of oatmeal or a sandwich and grab a piece of fruit.

But do you really believe it’s that simple? I agree that what you’re saying is the healthier choice, but if it’s all just about choices and there isn’t some deeper societal issue going on, why are some societies healthier than others?

.

The deeper social issue is that over time, people have become completely disconnected from their food. And they have become lazy. Very few people grow their own food. That takes discipline and a whole lot of hard, physical work. Making a bowl of oatmeal requires more work than grabbing a burger from McDonald’s on he way home. Going to the grocery store requires planning and effort. Calling Door Dash is easy.

Most people don’t hunt or fish. They don’t farm. They don’t have chickens or cows. The art of cooking a family meal is dying. Kids are over scheduled. Parents are working long hours in sedentary jobs. You don’t even have to get off your ass to change the television channel anymore. You could literally run your life from a recliner. The only solution is a complete shift. And that requires effort.

I mostly agree with you, but maintain that much of what you call "lazy" is really stressed and exhausted. Think more about why the family is going through the drive thru at McDonald's. It might have something to do with the fact that they are all starving and cooking would mean that dinner is an hour away. I mean, I didn't eat lunch at school at 11 a.m. or even earlier, did you?

I get being exhausted. But that’s where the self-discipline comes in. Cereal with milk and fruit takes no time at all to serve. But if you haven’t planned ahead, you may not have milk at home. If the kids are cranky in the car, keep a bag of snacks with you. Give them an apple. Pretzels. Even a few goldfish crackers to hold them till dinner. My kids ate plenty of Happy Meals. But it wasn’t a regular occurrence.

Since when is cereal, milk and pretzels healthy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No we can't agree. I think more of you need an English muffin, maybe you can be nice again.

- not English Muffin Trainer

+1 LOL at the people tearing down a fit woman who enjoys the occasional indulgence. As if English muffins are the only thing she eats.

I wanted to tear her down because of how she talked about fat people, as a monolith lacking self control. Most people who work in weight loss do not talk about fat people like that, its rude and demeaning. Its also rude and demeaning to nit pick the english muffin, I wonder if she's using this discomfort she feels being under the microscope to examine her own words.

[Anonymous]

Fat and Covid death rate is what got my attention this year.

Sorry, OP - your post is just another person failing to understand personal responsibility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP you are 100% correct.

There are studies to back up your theories. Easy to google. But of course commenters here won’t believe those studies because people don’t change their opinions when presented with facts.

This article is just a survey, not a study, but has a lot of really eye-opening stories. https://www.glamour.com/story/weight-stereotyping-the-secret-way-people-are-judging-you-based-on-your-body-glamour-june-2012

Thank you! And thank you for sporting that link, I am looking at it now.

OMG. Now we are using Glamour magazine as a medical resource. And that says it all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

If you don't live in a food desert, you can choose not to eat at McDonalds. And if you do eat at McDonalds you can choose not to supersize your meal (originally an adult portion was the current kids meal portion today). Not a single person is under any illusion that it's healthy. As PPs noted, takes less time and money to make a bowl of oatmeal or a sandwich and grab a piece of fruit.

But do you really believe it’s that simple? I agree that what you’re saying is the healthier choice, but if it’s all just about choices and there isn’t some deeper societal issue going on, why are some societies healthier than others?

.

The deeper social issue is that over time, people have become completely disconnected from their food. And they have become lazy. Very few people grow their own food. That takes discipline and a whole lot of hard, physical work. Making a bowl of oatmeal requires more work than grabbing a burger from McDonald’s on he way home. Going to the grocery store requires planning and effort. Calling Door Dash is easy.

Most people don’t hunt or fish. They don’t farm. They don’t have chickens or cows. The art of cooking a family meal is dying. Kids are over scheduled. Parents are working long hours in sedentary jobs. You don’t even have to get off your ass to change the television channel anymore. You could literally run your life from a recliner. The only solution is a complete shift. And that requires effort.

I’m overweight (not obese) and I’m working on it. I don’t know what you’d call my day, but it’s certainly not lazy. I make bad calls on food when I’m tired or stressed. It happens a lot.

It’s honestly easier not to eat at all than make a healthy choice. Loose IF has helped me lose a few pounds. Any psychologist will tell you that humans have limited amounts of willpower.

But then again, if I were in the exclusive 30% who are a healthy weight, I’d be proud of that. But it’s sad you have to be mean about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please. I eat whatever I want. I love carbs and eat a ton. Just finished two English muffins with butter and jelly. Seriously thinking about eating another one. I also ran six miles this morning and taught a 60 minute hot yoga class. I work out hard. That allows me to fuel my body in delicious ways. I couldn’t be overweight if I tried because I move my body all day long.

Self-discipline. Consistent training. Respect for your body. And not taking more than your share of resources. These are the things fat people don’t understand. I’ve been a trainer for almost 30 years. I’ve heard every excuse in the world. They are all just that…excuses.

Lmaoooooooo how is it self discipline to eat 3 English muffins??????

I’m 5’5 and 114 pounds. I need the calories. I assure you, a six miles run at 5am takes self-discipline. If I were overweight or more sedentary, my choice would have been very different. Also, I haven’t eaten the third one…yet.

The dcum mindset presented above! You can do it! "I am a yoga instructor with time to run 6 miles at 5 am and move all the time, so I can eat three muffins! This is not bcs I am not earning my own living ( cause no yoga instructor is!!!) and have all the time to work at my hobby, this is bcs I... am superior to all of you another tiny bit more not super skinny people!
That I am shallow and stupid makes no difference, I am better than you, I am better than you.. cause I am not fat."

Are you 19? Life will bring you down, no matter your age, worry not, the shallow person that has no empathy. You are likely the have no empathy PP from another thread so you don't send a text to a family member or a friend when they lose a loved one, but I order them flowers and put it in a card. Cause I am working on my bod!

I’m 55. I was a single mom for six years. I still got up and ran at 5am because that was literally the only time I had. I have grown kids now and more time. I’ve never been overweight. You are making excuses. You have the time. You just choose not to use it.

Can we all agree that this is the most annoying, self-righteous prig of a person? Clearly her ex-partner agrees and ditched her long ago.

Yes, yes we can.

Although the people making a massive deal out of English muffins of all things are being super ridiculous too.

She also ate her husband's partner for she didn't get enough protein from the muffins!
OP here. While she is extremely clueless, I will admit that this comment made me like her!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

If you don't live in a food desert, you can choose not to eat at McDonalds. And if you do eat at McDonalds you can choose not to supersize your meal (originally an adult portion was the current kids meal portion today). Not a single person is under any illusion that it's healthy. As PPs noted, takes less time and money to make a bowl of oatmeal or a sandwich and grab a piece of fruit.

But do you really believe it’s that simple? I agree that what you’re saying is the healthier choice, but if it’s all just about choices and there isn’t some deeper societal issue going on, why are some societies healthier than others?

.

The deeper social issue is that over time, people have become completely disconnected from their food. And they have become lazy. Very few people grow their own food. That takes discipline and a whole lot of hard, physical work. Making a bowl of oatmeal requires more work than grabbing a burger from McDonald’s on he way home. Going to the grocery store requires planning and effort. Calling Door Dash is easy.

Most people don’t hunt or fish. They don’t farm. They don’t have chickens or cows. The art of cooking a family meal is dying. Kids are over scheduled. Parents are working long hours in sedentary jobs. You don’t even have to get off your ass to change the television channel anymore. You could literally run your life from a recliner. The only solution is a complete shift. And that requires effort.

I’m overweight (not obese) and I’m working on it. I don’t know what you’d call my day, but it’s certainly not lazy. I make bad calls on food when I’m tired or stressed. It happens a lot.

It’s honestly easier not to eat at all than make a healthy choice. Loose IF has helped me lose a few pounds. Any psychologist will tell you that humans have limited amounts of willpower.

But then again, if I were in the exclusive 30% who are a healthy weight, I’d be proud of that. But it’s sad you have to be mean about it.

I’m not mean. I’m honest. That’s why I make a lot of money as a trainer. People don’t pay me to be nice. They pay me for results. Sometimes that means accepting that your behaviors created your situation. This is true in all areas of life. Not just fitness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please. I eat whatever I want. I love carbs and eat a ton. Just finished two English muffins with butter and jelly. Seriously thinking about eating another one. I also ran six miles this morning and taught a 60 minute hot yoga class. I work out hard. That allows me to fuel my body in delicious ways. I couldn’t be overweight if I tried because I move my body all day long.

Self-discipline. Consistent training. Respect for your body. And not taking more than your share of resources. These are the things fat people don’t understand. I’ve been a trainer for almost 30 years. I’ve heard every excuse in the world. They are all just that…excuses.

Lmaoooooooo how is it self discipline to eat 3 English muffins??????

I’m 5’5 and 114 pounds. I need the calories. I assure you, a six miles run at 5am takes self-discipline. If I were overweight or more sedentary, my choice would have been very different. Also, I haven’t eaten the third one…yet.

The dcum mindset presented above! You can do it! "I am a yoga instructor with time to run 6 miles at 5 am and move all the time, so I can eat three muffins! This is not bcs I am not earning my own living ( cause no yoga instructor is!!!) and have all the time to work at my hobby, this is bcs I... am superior to all of you another tiny bit more not super skinny people!
That I am shallow and stupid makes no difference, I am better than you, I am better than you.. cause I am not fat."

Are you 19? Life will bring you down, no matter your age, worry not, the shallow person that has no empathy. You are likely the have no empathy PP from another thread so you don't send a text to a family member or a friend when they lose a loved one, but I order them flowers and put it in a card. Cause I am working on my bod!

I’m 55. I was a single mom for six years. I still got up and ran at 5am because that was literally the only time I had. I have grown kids now and more time. I’ve never been overweight. You are making excuses. You have the time. You just choose not to use it.

Can we all agree that this is the most annoying, self-righteous prig of a person? Clearly her ex-partner agrees and ditched her long ago.

Yes, yes we can.

Although the people making a massive deal out of English muffins of all things are being super ridiculous too.

She also ate her husband's partner for she didn't get enough protein from the muffins!
OP here. While she is extremely clueless, I will admit that this comment made me like her!

LOL! She also ate her husband or a partner!!
Though the other is a lead to a whole interesting scenario...a 21st century novel perhaps?

[Anonymous]

The obesity problem is, like the climate change problem, a constellation of factors that prey on human weaknesses that, due to the way we think about the world, are almost impossible to solve.

Both involve centuries of momentum. The number one problem humans had to solve for hundreds and hundreds of years was food. Food was scarce, expensive, and complicated to preserve and prepare. And the people historically who have had access to unlimited food, ie, rich people, were frequently fat!

So suddenly we get into this modern miracle of a time where food is basically just a non issue. Anyone in this country can acquire 500 calories for less than $2. Probably less than $1. So we have bodies that have hundreds of years of evolution assuming that food is scarce, and we have the corresponding human impulses to gorge when we see it (because will we have it again later????), and we have a society where food is cheap, free flowing, and highly caloric. We also have a society where most people are living just on the line of poverty or, at minimum, with uncomfortably fragile finances who have to work constantly to keep their head above water and where people are EXPECTED to work constantly. It is a recipe for disaster. And the proof is in the pudding, if 75% of us are failing the test, the problem is the test.

Then we have a whole industry set up to make this food in the most cheap and addictive way possible to maximize profits that is running, basically unregulated behind the scenes with no regard for the consequences. We have no real support for victims of trauma or who have mental health issues. We have entire swaths of demographics trapped in food desserts. And we have a symptom of these things that is so public that it paints a scarlet A of disgust on the sufferer. And humans also LOVE to 1) be proud of their own accomplishments and b) think they are better than other people. So instead of realizing that all these things are coming together to create this epidemic, we point at the fat people and call them terrible.

Super effed up. And I am someone who has put in a metric ton of effort and self discipline into losing 40 pounds in the last year, so I'm not making excuses. But I know myself. And I know I had lots of childhood trauma. And that now, as an adult, I have a happy and stable marriage, I have financial security, I have a flexible job that allows me to work out during my lunch, I have enough money for my peloton and for healthy food, I have a supportive partner who assists with childcare duties, and on and on and on. Yes I exercised self discipline and hard work, AFTER my life and mental health stabilized for the first time probably in my life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

If you don't live in a food desert, you can choose not to eat at McDonalds. And if you do eat at McDonalds you can choose not to supersize your meal (originally an adult portion was the current kids meal portion today). Not a single person is under any illusion that it's healthy. As PPs noted, takes less time and money to make a bowl of oatmeal or a sandwich and grab a piece of fruit.

But do you really believe it’s that simple? I agree that what you’re saying is the healthier choice, but if it’s all just about choices and there isn’t some deeper societal issue going on, why are some societies healthier than others?

.

The deeper social issue is that over time, people have become completely disconnected from their food. And they have become lazy. Very few people grow their own food. That takes discipline and a whole lot of hard, physical work. Making a bowl of oatmeal requires more work than grabbing a burger from McDonald’s on he way home. Going to the grocery store requires planning and effort. Calling Door Dash is easy.

Most people don’t hunt or fish. They don’t farm. They don’t have chickens or cows. The art of cooking a family meal is dying. Kids are over scheduled. Parents are working long hours in sedentary jobs. You don’t even have to get off your ass to change the television channel anymore. You could literally run your life from a recliner. The only solution is a complete shift. And that requires effort.

I’m overweight (not obese) and I’m working on it. I don’t know what you’d call my day, but it’s certainly not lazy. I make bad calls on food when I’m tired or stressed. It happens a lot.

It’s honestly easier not to eat at all than make a healthy choice. Loose IF has helped me lose a few pounds. Any psychologist will tell you that humans have limited amounts of willpower.

But then again, if I were in the exclusive 30% who are a healthy weight, I’d be proud of that. But it’s sad you have to be mean about it.

I’m not mean. I’m honest. That’s why I make a lot of money as a trainer. People don’t pay me to be nice. They pay me for results. Sometimes that means accepting that your behaviors created your situation. This is true in all areas of life. Not just fitness.

None of us are paying you lady. You're just being mean for free here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everybody saying “it’s just self-control, anybody can lose weight” people:

Why is it this country, at this moment in time, that is having weight-related health issues? Did human nature change so much so quickly that people have less self-control? Are people in France born with more willpower? What do you make of the fact that when American culture like American food (McDonald’s and such) and American TV enter a country, the rate of eating disorders and health issues goes up?

I don’t see how this all boils down to individual willpower and self-control.

If you don't live in a food desert, you can choose not to eat at McDonalds. And if you do eat at McDonalds you can choose not to supersize your meal (originally an adult portion was the current kids meal portion today). Not a single person is under any illusion that it's healthy. As PPs noted, takes less time and money to make a bowl of oatmeal or a sandwich and grab a piece of fruit.

But do you really believe it’s that simple? I agree that what you’re saying is the healthier choice, but if it’s all just about choices and there isn’t some deeper societal issue going on, why are some societies healthier than others?

.

The deeper social issue is that over time, people have become completely disconnected from their food. And they have become lazy. Very few people grow their own food. That takes discipline and a whole lot of hard, physical work. Making a bowl of oatmeal requires more work than grabbing a burger from McDonald’s on he way home. Going to the grocery store requires planning and effort. Calling Door Dash is easy.

Most people don’t hunt or fish. They don’t farm. They don’t have chickens or cows. The art of cooking a family meal is dying. Kids are over scheduled. Parents are working long hours in sedentary jobs. You don’t even have to get off your ass to change the television channel anymore. You could literally run your life from a recliner. The only solution is a complete shift. And that requires effort.

I’m overweight (not obese) and I’m working on it. I don’t know what you’d call my day, but it’s certainly not lazy. I make bad calls on food when I’m tired or stressed. It happens a lot.

It’s honestly easier not to eat at all than make a healthy choice. Loose IF has helped me lose a few pounds. Any psychologist will tell you that humans have limited amounts of willpower.

But then again, if I were in the exclusive 30% who are a healthy weight, I’d be proud of that. But it’s sad you have to be mean about it.

I’m not mean. I’m honest. That’s why I make a lot of money as a trainer. People don’t pay me to be nice. They pay me for results. Sometimes that means accepting that your behaviors created your situation. This is true in all areas of life. Not just fitness.

None of us are paying you lady. You're just being mean for free here.

LOL! You are quick and on point! Love your comment and your wit!