UVA Early Action

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

But, when?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

UVA can't practice yield protection because it is a comparatively small office in a public school. The UVA Admissions Office doesn't have the resources that a private university has to throw at marketing and admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

It's hard to correlate posts because of anonymity but as I read it, there were two separate posters.

1) one from TJ had "high 1500s" and a 4.3 GPA.
2) poster with the 1590 SAT just said public HS, > 4.45GPA and did not identify as TJ

As presented, both are fantastic candidates for UVA and I empathize with the shock. My best hopes and wishes that the deferral ultimately evolves into an admit. I've read on these forums in years past though, that a TJ 4.3 is right on the line and that UVA looks at GPA first, then SAT.

For my kids though, I don't believe they experienced yield management with UVA (GPA 4.6+ and accepted). UVA gets some of the top of TJ because of its price/performance ratio.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

UVA can't practice yield protection because it is a comparatively small office in a public school. The UVA Admissions Office doesn't have the resources that a private university has to throw at marketing and admissions.

What you just said makes no sense. Do you know what yield protection is?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

UVA can't practice yield protection because it is a comparatively small office in a public school. The UVA Admissions Office doesn't have the resources that a private university has to throw at marketing and admissions.

What you just said makes no sense. Do you know what yield protection is?

The yield-confused poster is in several threads. No use trying to educate them. They’re immune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

UVA can't practice yield protection because it is a comparatively small office in a public school. The UVA Admissions Office doesn't have the resources that a private university has to throw at marketing and admissions.

What you just said makes no sense. Do you know what yield protection is?

Yes. And it makes sense. You have to have a strategy and more readers to practice yield protection. It takes more readers and more staff. Unlike Princeton, UVA doesn't have that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

UVA can't practice yield protection because it is a comparatively small office in a public school. The UVA Admissions Office doesn't have the resources that a private university has to throw at marketing and admissions.

What you just said makes no sense. Do you know what yield protection is?

Yes. And it makes sense. You have to have a strategy and more readers to practice yield protection. It takes more readers and more staff. Unlike Princeton, UVA doesn't have that.

+1. The Admissions Office also has to start keeping records of who attends tours (currently UVA doesn't - the program is just too large). You also need interviews which takes staff time. It's just too time consuming. ARticles have said the added cost to practice yield protection just isn't worth it for the colleges that don't need to, and especially the publics which try to keep costs down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

It's hard to correlate posts because of anonymity but as I read it, there were two separate posters.

1) one from TJ had "high 1500s" and a 4.3 GPA.
2) poster with the 1590 SAT just said public HS, > 4.45GPA and did not identify as TJ

As presented, both are fantastic candidates for UVA and I empathize with the shock. My best hopes and wishes that the deferral ultimately evolves into an admit. I've read on these forums in years past though, that a TJ 4.3 is right on the line and that UVA looks at GPA first, then SAT.

For my kids though, I don't believe they experienced yield management with UVA (GPA 4.6+ and accepted). UVA gets some of the top of TJ because of its price/performance ratio.

Another poster, and a UVA alum if that matters, who also is shocked that kids with those stats were not admitted while students with obviously lesser stats were. And before someone jumps on me I want to point out that kids with lesser stats are NOT in general more "well-rounded" or "less pointy" because that is a stereotypical and invalid cliche.

[Anonymous]

USA Today had a piece that estimated the cost to a small college to yield protect to be more than $40K a year. For a public university besieged with 49,000 applications, as UVA was this year, it is difficult just to stay on top of assessing the files for cuts as to GPA/Legacy/ACT/SAT/ECs/development case/URM/Low Income/ First Generation/ one of the 50 states and international from 100 countries. That all takes work. Trying to read the students' mind as to whether or not they would show up if admitted is a step too far for most public universities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

But, when?

ED uva this year, she found out just before xmas

[Anonymous]

PP with a ED admission, what was the TJ Gpa if you don't mind sharing ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:USA Today had a piece that estimated the cost to a small college to yield protect to be more than $40K a year. For a public university besieged with 49,000 applications, as UVA was this year, it is difficult just to stay on top of assessing the files for cuts as to GPA/Legacy/ACT/SAT/ECs/development case/URM/Low Income/ First Generation/ one of the 50 states and international from 100 countries. That all takes work. Trying to read the students' mind as to whether or not they would show up if admitted is a step too far for most public universities.

Have you heard about computers and software?

[Anonymous]

All along, it has been noted in real talk tj that any one who gets a 4.3 and above makes it to UVA. Has this been true always? Just curious to know how many kids got admission to UVA last year?