new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations

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Anonymous wrote:This is I'm sure is the least popular opinion on DCUM, but I did not find Ford's account believable. At all.

Kav is one of the most politically despised people in the history of America and haters will stop at nothing to destroy him. As such, we can expect random unverifiable allegations of the most heinous nature from time to time. It does not reflect well on anyone.

because?

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, back to the latest fake allegation from the fake #metoo crowd.
Stop lying and start getting victims help. I won’t believe anyone you trot about with a “new allegation” that has been “verified” (Hahaha) by the New York Times.
You completely lost your credibility the first time around. New fake stories are only making you look worse.

Yep.
I read this tweet from a random person:

"I am not a Republican, SCOTUS isn’t even one of my voting issues but when the left starts in with this #KavanaughLied & #KavanaughResign it makes me want to vote against you. Y’all need to cut this $hit out. You will lose in 2020 because you think this is a good idea. It’s not."

I am looking at the twitter feed of the person who posted that - and if she's not a Republican, then it's because she thinks Republicans aren't far right enough

https://twitter.com/LittleMsOpinion/status/1173225056182448131

She's one of your little RWNJ darlings

Hm let's see who she follows on Twitter - oh yeah, Daily Caller staff, WH staff, Trump's campaign staff, a "conservative idealist" written about in The Federalist (remind me again - who funds the federalist), Ken Cuccinelli, Dan Crenshaw, etc

So yeah - ok. We know that Republicans don't take this seriously. That is really not news, buddy.

I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

I don't care if YOU read any of those twitter feeds. I'm saying that posting that person's tweet as if it is representative of how people at large are feeling - as opposed to partisan, Trump-supporting Republicans, is just a flat out lie. You, in posting it, are a liar.

Oh, my. Calm down. I didn't post it. I'm sorry that you can't accept that others disagree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

DRIVEL

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Anonymous wrote:I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

If you want to see Trump improve his chances for remaining in office, keep going with this tack all the way up to the next presidential election.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

If you want to see Trump improve his chances for remaining in office, keep going with this tack all the way up to the next presidential election.

Keep going. The Gross Old Perverts are doing amazing with all ages, races and education levels of women, just amazing and none of them are peeling off as you ridicule and shame victims.

Brett Kavanaugh was and is unfit for the bench. He’s a cheap, tawdry little man bathed in his own flop sweat and beholden to some secretive deep pocketed people.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

If you want to see Trump improve his chances for remaining in office, keep going with this tack all the way up to the next presidential election.

Actually, it is quite the opposite. Want proof? See 2018 midterms.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

If you want to see Trump improve his chances for remaining in office, keep going with this tack all the way up to the next presidential election.

Actually, it is quite the opposite. Want proof? See 2018 midterms.

SERIOUSLY. Now try running Roy Moore again. See how well this sort of fcking nonsense is doing for you all with women voters. Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Brett Kavanaugh - three peas in a disgusting pod. With their enablers William Barr - whose dad, recall, hired Jeffrey Epstein to teach high school - and Moscow Mitch.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, seems kind of important....
Liberals are being played yet again. These reporters have a book to sell. Their sourcing is crap. They did not talk to ONE of the people headlined in their story. Pitiful.

According to the Times, Stier "notified senators and the FBI about this account, but the FBI did not investigate and Mr. Stier has declined to discuss it publicly."

But the Times' article did not mention that Pogrebin and Kelly's book found that the female student in question denied any knowledge of the alleged episode.

"The book notes, quietly, that the woman Max Stier named as having been supposedly victimized by Kavanaugh and friends denies any memory of the alleged event," noted The Federalist's Mollie Hemingway. "Seems, I don’t know, significant."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kavanaugh-must-be-impeached-harris-says-as-new-uncorroborated-allegation-surfaces

Mollie Hemingway used to be a decent person. At some point she decided there was more $ to be made doing the right wing grift.

And yes, they have a book coming out- you think that the info being in a book means it's *less* reliable?

You know Mollie Hemingway also wrote a book about Kavanaugh, if that's your standard?

Are you claiming that what Mollie Hemingway has stated is not true? (Hint: She is correct)
And, the book Hemingway authored is excellent and full of source material. She and her co-author actually *talked* to people they reported on. Unlike these two from the NYTimes.

What are you even talking about? Of course the NY Times reporters did - you know - reporting. What in the world would ever make you say otherwise?[b]

Trump tweeting about how great MH's book is tells you all you need to know - partisan dreck designed to please King Tiny Hands and his idiot minions

These "reporters" did not talk to Stier. They did not talk to the woman who reportedly was the "victim" in this story. All of their reporting is through 2nd or 3rd hand accounts.
That is NOT the way to source a story and any journalist worthy of any credibility knows that.

I’m assuming you’re GOP, which means you’ve sworn fealty to the guy who uses the old Nazi terms to demonize journalists and mainstream media, which means you have exactly zero standing to criticize the media.

DP. Hard core liberal and the poster is right about sourcing stories. The NYT is following the downward trajectory of WaPo. I was accepted by Columbia for its masters in journalism. After a month. I switched to an MFA In writing. I have a great job. Those who got their degrees in journalism move from one dying paper to the next. Journalism is a dead field.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

If you want to see Trump improve his chances for remaining in office, keep going with this tack all the way up to the next presidential election.

Keep going. The Gross Old Perverts are doing amazing with all ages, races and education levels of women, just amazing and none of them are peeling off as you ridicule and shame victims.

Brett Kavanaugh was and is unfit for the bench. He’s a cheap, tawdry little man bathed in his own flop sweat and beholden to some secretive deep pocketed people.

Yet he is on SCOTUS and you are what?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't read any of those twitter feeds but can tell you that I'm a voter who's beyond tired of the "remembered accusations" all these years later and the attempts to cast those of us who don't buy it all as misogynists and worse. It is not the way to win the presidency back from Trump.

We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

If you want to see Trump improve his chances for remaining in office, keep going with this tack all the way up to the next presidential election.

Keep going. The Gross Old Perverts are doing amazing with all ages, races and education levels of women, just amazing and none of them are peeling off as you ridicule and shame victims.

Brett Kavanaugh was and is unfit for the bench. He’s a cheap, tawdry little man bathed in his own flop sweat and beholden to some secretive deep pocketed people.

Yet he is on SCOTUS and you are what?

Outraged. Like every true American.

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We know you don’t believe women. You don’t believe them when they report at the time, you don’t believe them if they wait, you don’t believe the if they need time to process their assault, you don’t believe them if they understand and name their assaulted right away. You don’t believe women. We know.

You do know that the authors--in their book--have said that the woman Stiers names denies the event.
Do you believe her?

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Anonymous wrote:All this about a drunk college kid dropping his pants? Admit it, you all don’t really care that much about this, do you? You just don’t care for his politics and you’ll use any measure to get your way.

I went to an Ivy, saw and partook in plenty of partying, and witnessed acts of public exposure - including male and female students who ran naked around a college courtyard in the school’s annual “nude Winter Olympics” that followed the first snowfall.

I did not in four years witness men thrusting their genitals in women’s faces or having their dicks pushed by buddies into women’s faces or hands. Maybe I missed out, but I consider myself lucky to been spared those sights.

The reason BK’s shenanigans resonate is that they continue to speak to the inequality that pervades our society. Had a black teenager decided to show up on the New Haven green some evening and expose himself, he would have been arrested. Had Deborah Ramirez decided to let loose and dance with her top off at her Yale residential college, she would have been slut-shamed for months, if not years. But Kavanaugh could basically do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted, as a young adult, secure in the knowledge that he would face no consequences. And, in fact, he was right - as we’ve seen an entire political party grease his wheels for decades.

Had he been even slightly candid or contrite, or attempt to place his earlier behavior in the context of growing up at an earlier time - post-Animal House and Porky’s but pre-American Pie - he might at least seem more human or equipped to recognize the mistakes that others also make. But he has only stonewalled, so ultimately he stands for absolutely nothing other than white male privilege. That’s what he rode to power and if dismantling it means attacking him and continuing to look for opportunities to unseat him from the Supreme Court, so much the better.

This. Exactly exactly this.

We would be talking about this differently if he'd talked about it differently. If he'd said something like: The culture was different then, and I took part, and it was wrong, and I was wrong, and I am sorry. And now that I have daughters [editor's note: I hate how men only see the light when they have daughters but whatever] I can see how wrong it was, and that's why I am committed to creating a culture where women don't have to face what was considered normal then.

But he didn't. He lied. He shouted and threw a temper tantrum during his job interview. He seemed like a spoiled little boy who wasn't getting the candy he thought he deserved. He was protected by the worst kind of old boy's club. Fck that guy and eveyone who shielded him from having to face any consequences from what we all know he did. Him being a Supreme Court justice now is a travesty.

Sure you would.

And so it goes. People of privilege reveling in their ability to discount and shut down how other people feel.

You are not a good person.

My life was different from Deborah Ramirez's, but I recognize BK's behavior as very much in line with that of other privileged young white men who've never met a tree they couldn't piss on just so we're all reminded who thinks they deserve to be in charge.

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https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/15/alleged-victim-in-new-york-times-kavanaugh-story-doesnt-remember-incident/#.XX6bvBKeV_c.twitter

Good summary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All this about a drunk college kid dropping his pants? Admit it, you all don’t really care that much about this, do you? You just don’t care for his politics and you’ll use any measure to get your way.

I went to an Ivy, saw and partook in plenty of partying, and witnessed acts of public exposure - including male and female students who ran naked around a college courtyard in the school’s annual “nude Winter Olympics” that followed the first snowfall.

I did not in four years witness men thrusting their genitals in women’s faces or having their dicks pushed by buddies into women’s faces or hands. Maybe I missed out, but I consider myself lucky to been spared those sights.

The reason BK’s shenanigans resonate is that they continue to speak to the inequality that pervades our society. Had a black teenager decided to show up on the New Haven green some evening and expose himself, he would have been arrested. Had Deborah Ramirez decided to let loose and dance with her top off at her Yale residential college, she would have been slut-shamed for months, if not years. But Kavanaugh could basically do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted, as a young adult, secure in the knowledge that he would face no consequences. And, in fact, he was right - as we’ve seen an entire political party grease his wheels for decades.

Had he been even slightly candid or contrite, or attempt to place his earlier behavior in the context of growing up at an earlier time - post-Animal House and Porky’s but pre-American Pie - he might at least seem more human or equipped to recognize the mistakes that others also make. But he has only stonewalled, so ultimately he stands for absolutely nothing other than white male privilege. That’s what he rode to power and if dismantling it means attacking him and continuing to look for opportunities to unseat him from the Supreme Court, so much the better.

This. Exactly exactly this.

We would be talking about this differently if he'd talked about it differently. If he'd said something like: The culture was different then, and I took part, and it was wrong, and I was wrong, and I am sorry. And now that I have daughters [editor's note: I hate how men only see the light when they have daughters but whatever] I can see how wrong it was, and that's why I am committed to creating a culture where women don't have to face what was considered normal then.

But he didn't. He lied. He shouted and threw a temper tantrum during his job interview. He seemed like a spoiled little boy who wasn't getting the candy he thought he deserved. He was protected by the worst kind of old boy's club. Fck that guy and eveyone who shielded him from having to face any consequences from what we all know he did. Him being a Supreme Court justice now is a travesty.

Sure you would.

And so it goes. People of privilege reveling in their ability to discount and shut down how other people feel.

You are not a good person.

My life was different from Deborah Ramirez's, but I recognize BK's behavior as very much in line with that of other privileged young white men who've never met a tree they couldn't piss on just so we're all reminded who thinks they deserve to be in charge.

Your generalization is in the same vein as every other person who makes generalizations about a group.