Is being bi-gender a "thing" at your kid's school?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread makes me sad. What has the world come to? Now young children are pretending to identify with another gender or NO gender? This didn't even exist 50 years ago. We are continuing to specialize children. So awful.

It didn't exist 50 years ago because people were told they had to be put in specific gender boxes. It didn't occur to people that they could step outside, and if they did, they were ridiculed or had violence done to them. So this is progress.

Listen, my son loves wearing colorful pants, rainbows, unicorns, and so on. He also loves dinosaurs, robots, and Star Wars. If he wants to dress in half of the colors/pictures he likes, he has to go into the "girls" section. That's just the way stores are set up. He doesn't self-identify as anything but a boy or a kid, but if he continues to want to wear these clothes as he gets older, he might want to make choices for himself. Or stores could just go gender-neutral, which would be my preference.

It's kind of scary you define your kids gender by what aisle he shops in. Trust me you could buy a shirt in the men's department and that wouldn't make you a man. Wearing colourful clothes doesn't mean he is a girl.

Reading comprehension is a good thing. My kid is a boy. He identifies as being a boy. Stores tell him that if he wears colorful clothes, buy unicorn toys, etc, he has to shop in the girls section. There's only so long you can do that before you either:

1. Give up buying the things you like
2. Say "yep," I like things you say aren't for my gender (and maybe face ridicule)
3. Ask people (and stores) to recognize that people can like what they like, and people, clothes etc don't have to be labeled "boy" and "girl"

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Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

Because if mostly girls are doing this it means it's a fad or a fetish. Statistically girls shouldn't be any more likely to be non gendered than boys.

So, what, you're desperately trying to discredit this? Why?

Why does it threaten you so?

In my experience, the only people who are so threatened by this have deep issues of their own. It's like all the conservatives who go to extreme lengths to bash gays and then get caught with "wide stances" in the bathroom. If this bothers you so much, it's telling you something about yourself and your own identity. That's the only reason anyone could possibly be so angry and desperate to dismiss it.

Well your experience is wrong. It's actually the reverse. The only people who don't see it as a serious problem are very twisted themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

Because if mostly girls are doing this it means it's a fad or a fetish. Statistically girls shouldn't be any more likely to be non gendered than boys.

So, what, you're desperately trying to discredit this? Why?

Why does it threaten you so?

In my experience, the only people who are so threatened by this have deep issues of their own. It's like all the conservatives who go to extreme lengths to bash gays and then get caught with "wide stances" in the bathroom. If this bothers you so much, it's telling you something about yourself and your own identity. That's the only reason anyone could possibly be so angry and desperate to dismiss it.

I'm not threatened at all. No, I don't have issues. I simply think the vast majority of people are either male or female. End of story. I don't think you can choose gender anymore than you can choose race. I think it's actually immoral for parents to permit a young child to pretend to be of the opposite gender.

You keep using that word. It does not mean what you seem to think it means. The point here is there's no "pretending" here -- this isn't dress up on Halloween.

As for morality, your resistance to this makes you of bad human character, which by very definition makes you an immoral person.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

Because if mostly girls are doing this it means it's a fad or a fetish. Statistically girls shouldn't be any more likely to be non gendered than boys.

So, what, you're desperately trying to discredit this? Why?

Why does it threaten you so?

In my experience, the only people who are so threatened by this have deep issues of their own. It's like all the conservatives who go to extreme lengths to bash gays and then get caught with "wide stances" in the bathroom. If this bothers you so much, it's telling you something about yourself and your own identity. That's the only reason anyone could possibly be so angry and desperate to dismiss it.

Well your experience is wrong. It's actually the reverse. The only people who don't see it as a serious problem are very twisted themselves.

No, the people who don't see any problem at all aren't nearly as preoccupied with it as you seem to be. That's what points to the internal conflict for you. Self-hatred is a powerful thing. Maybe you should explore your real feelings in therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:PC gone amuck again

Crap like this is why people voted for Trump

+ 100. And I will vote for him again at least partly for this reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

Because if mostly girls are doing this it means it's a fad or a fetish. Statistically girls shouldn't be any more likely to be non gendered than boys.

So, what, you're desperately trying to discredit this? Why?

Why does it threaten you so?

In my experience, the only people who are so threatened by this have deep issues of their own. It's like all the conservatives who go to extreme lengths to bash gays and then get caught with "wide stances" in the bathroom. If this bothers you so much, it's telling you something about yourself and your own identity. That's the only reason anyone could possibly be so angry and desperate to dismiss it.

Well your experience is wrong. It's actually the reverse. The only people who don't see it as a serious problem are very twisted themselves.

No, the people who don't see any problem at all aren't nearly as preoccupied with it as you seem to be. That's what points to the internal conflict for you. Self-hatred is a powerful thing. Maybe you should explore your real feelings in therapy.

You my friend are simply wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

Because if mostly girls are doing this it means it's a fad or a fetish. Statistically girls shouldn't be any more likely to be non gendered than boys.

So, what, you're desperately trying to discredit this? Why?

Why does it threaten you so?

In my experience, the only people who are so threatened by this have deep issues of their own. It's like all the conservatives who go to extreme lengths to bash gays and then get caught with "wide stances" in the bathroom. If this bothers you so much, it's telling you something about yourself and your own identity. That's the only reason anyone could possibly be so angry and desperate to dismiss it.

I'm not threatened at all. No, I don't have issues. I simply think the vast majority of people are either male or female. End of story. I don't think you can choose gender anymore than you can choose race. I think it's actually immoral for parents to permit a young child to pretend to be of the opposite gender.

You keep using that word. It does not mean what you seem to think it means. The point here is there's no "pretending" here -- this isn't dress up on Halloween.

As for morality, your resistance to this makes you of bad human character, which by very definition makes you an immoral person.

Of course it's pretending and I refuse to go along with t. That you can't see that makes me question your sanity as well

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Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

Because if mostly girls are doing this it means it's a fad or a fetish. Statistically girls shouldn't be any more likely to be non gendered than boys.

So, what, you're desperately trying to discredit this? Why?

Why does it threaten you so?

In my experience, the only people who are so threatened by this have deep issues of their own. It's like all the conservatives who go to extreme lengths to bash gays and then get caught with "wide stances" in the bathroom. If this bothers you so much, it's telling you something about yourself and your own identity. That's the only reason anyone could possibly be so angry and desperate to dismiss it.

Well your experience is wrong. It's actually the reverse. The only people who don't see it as a serious problem are very twisted themselves.

No, the people who don't see any problem at all aren't nearly as preoccupied with it as you seem to be. That's what points to the internal conflict for you. Self-hatred is a powerful thing. Maybe you should explore your real feelings in therapy.

You my friend are simply wrong.

If you say so. But, the old adage here rings true -- you point a finger and three point back at you. I wish you peace and I sincerely hope you discover what it is inside of you that makes you present as such a horrible and nasty person.

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Anonymous wrote:Need advice on how to go about hosting a sleepover for a few young teen friends- with a mix of LGBTQ attendees. All friends for a couple years but I'm worried that there will be someone uncomfortable or something inappropriate could happen

Sure.

See if you can get them involved in a fun party game. Or, maybe they'd prefer a movie. Make some popcorn. Order pizza maybe. Lights out by midnight for teens. Pancakes in the morning. Have a great time!

This is what I would like to have happen, but I could see other things happen especially as this was already an affectionate group. I would not host a boy girl sleepover, and this is starting to feel that way, or like a friends with benefits situation. Lines are getting more blurry, and I think it is confusing to them and to me how to handle what used to be simple and innocent.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a fad. In the last ten years it was cool to pretend that you were a lesbian, then bi-sexual, now "trans". Just wait a year or so and it will be something else.

Again, this conversation isn't about kids who are trans or want to transition (or, it wasn't until very confused people started commenting). It's about kids who are gender non-conforming or gender fluid.

And kids who eschew the labels of boy and girl.

Which is so weird. It's like saying I don't have brown hair. I can dye it. I can style it a bunch of different ways, but I still have brown hair. What have we taught these children about what it means to be a "boy" or a "girl" that it feels so limiting and limited to them?

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Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

DP. For me it matter because if it's mostly girls, I suspect it says a lot more about the misogyny they're encountering and how difficult it is to be a "girl" in this culture than anything specific about them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

DP. For me it matter because if it's mostly girls, I suspect it says a lot more about the misogyny they're encountering and how difficult it is to be a "girl" in this culture than anything specific about them.

Please. Misogyny among middle schoolers? Get real.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

DP. For me it matter because if it's mostly girls, I suspect it says a lot more about the misogyny they're encountering and how difficult it is to be a "girl" in this culture than anything specific about them.

It has never been easier to be a girl. The world is very female centric now, especially for anyone 30 and younger.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

DP. For me it matter because if it's mostly girls, I suspect it says a lot more about the misogyny they're encountering and how difficult it is to be a "girl" in this culture than anything specific about them.

It has never been easier to be a girl. The world is very female centric now, especially for anyone 30 and younger.

It will never be "easier" to be a girl until rape and sexual assault disappear.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked this question earlier, but didn't get any responses? Are boys as likely to consider themselves to be bi-gender as girls are? Or is this a phenomena we are seeing mainly among girls?

Not sure. And not sure why it matters?

Intuition would say more acceptable for girls because bullying. But, who knows.

DP. For me it matter because if it's mostly girls, I suspect it says a lot more about the misogyny they're encountering and how difficult it is to be a "girl" in this culture than anything specific about them.

It has never been easier to be a girl. The world is very female centric now, especially for anyone 30 and younger.

It will never be "easier" to be a girl until rape and sexual assault disappear.

Males are more likely than women to be victims of violence. Boys are equally as likely to be sexually abused as children. Men are more likely to be murder victims, and victims of physical assault. Both are equally likely to be victim of bullying or end up being abused in relationships. It is not a safe world for males either.