Any quality 30+ guys left?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a quality guy, 59. I'm married, so that's a hiccup but not insurmountable.

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LUCILLE!

I do not understand the question and I will not respond.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

You also forget that a lot of women in their late twenties and 30s are married!! So there's a small pool of eligible men AND women in their thirties who are single.

Every 30something woman I know who was single and is attractive found a husband.

I knew this gorgeous Ukranian woman who met her Ivy grad McKinsey consultant husband in his mid thirties when she too was in her thirties. He is also hot and they make a lovely couple.

Quit with the fear mongering.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

I disagree with this. When I was single not to long ago I never had a shortage of eligible men to date and I married someone OP would approve of. The idea that there are 30-50 eligible women for each man is an extreme exaggeration.

I also disagree with this. I meet men in the OPs target demographic constantly.

This sort of thing is said by a woman who these kinds of men aren't interested in.

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Anonymous wrote:Christ people this thread is eyeopening.. 150k is NOT an absurd threshold at all!!! I don't think I know any guys making LESS than that and I'm in my late 20's.

Not trolling, just, wow- guess not many come from SF/NYC/Boston where that's completely normal.

I agree. Basically op is just saying she wants to date a man with a professional job. In other words, some sort of office worker.

I dated a good bit before meeting and marrying my husband and almost every man I dated made this sort of salary by the time he was in his 30s

I highly doubt OP would turn down a resident doctor or someone in grad school, just started a business etc. she just wants a motivated man with a college degree, which isn't that unusual.

This is OP.

The responses to this thread have been funny.

I am not expecting a 25 year old with a 150k salary. I am looking at men in their 30s. At least by 35 almost all men in the DC area make about much. From what I gather that is the minimum amount required in order to have a house, and provide for a child and a SAHM in this area. I want to stay with my kid at home for a few years and would need to depend on my husband and so he needs to be able to support that.

And honestly as a marriage minded woman, I am not seeking to be CEO. I earn enough to live, get a mani pedi and by my beauty products. With a husband, I will be more than okay.

If you wanted the SAHM life an that salary you've missed the boat. You have to lock a guy like that down in your 20's. If you wanted to go the SAHM route and find that salary you should have dated one of these 30 yr old men and locked him down in your 20's. If that's truly the lifestyle you want you need to bump your search up in age and start looking for a 40-45 yr old man who could provide that lifestyle or move to an area like Austin where COL is cheaper and there's still a lot of high earners like you're looking for. Today's crop of 30 yr old men looking to find a SAHM are looking at women in their 20's. You have to realize you're fishing in a very very small pond. If you keep such narrow search parameters you need to realize you might not just put being a SAHM at risk but being a mother if you keep waiting for the dream guy that doesn't exist. And no, most men by 35 in the DC area don't make 150k a year. That's the wonderful thing about census data it's easy to see. Only 25% of Households (not individual) make between 100k-200k in the DMV. 15% make 200k or more.

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/16000US1150000-washington-dc/

Cut it out with the census data already. Jesus Christ. You people are relentless. Someone who is a college educated professional (whether you count Op or not in that group is up to you) is not going to be dating in the bottom 50% most places you go. INCLUDING HERE in DC. Do you people have any friends who are not under-achieving college people? These are the folks who never got a college education (I realize many people in trade jobs make a lot, we are talking many of the others), they never finished high school, they are living on government handout. HELLO, DC?

Are you people suggesting she start dating the welfare recipients? Someone who don't have a lick of college?

Ridiculous. Just cut the BS already.

my husband is a phd engineer with a successful career at a great company. he only broke 150k at 41-42 or so. the idea that everyone makes 150k or more around here is preposterous.

Yeah, but so is throwing around Census Data. If you got out of your PhD social bubble you'll know there is a whole world out there of people neither you nor I will ever touch with a 10 foot dating pole, and it has nothing to do with my income.

i am not suggesting that you date at random through the census area but i do find focus on income very limiting.

personally i never cared much about money. but i did care that my boyfriend is interesting, ambitious and has good grades. i married at 23. single women my age think my husband is a great catch. i am not sure they would have thought the same when i was dating him.

This. So many of these women on here want to date whoever they want to date in their 20s, and then want it ALL on their terms and accelerated timeline the second they turn 30. Usually, these complainers are the same ones who don't bring much to the table themselves.

The single women who would cut off an arm to be married to my husband today seemed utterly horrified when I was marrying him at 22. (He was "boring" and "worked all the time," according to them.)

Ten years later, they're not so critical.

Is he a boring nerdy engineer?

I agree too. The guys who are great catches in their 30s are the same ones who a lot of girls passed over in their twenties. They were nerdy, boring and were not jerks. They usually were also a little socially awkward and not life of the party.

PP from above - my husband is an engineer but he is a very interesting person and i say that as someone who is bored by most people.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

I disagree with this. When I was single not to long ago I never had a shortage of eligible men to date and I married someone OP would approve of. The idea that there are 30-50 eligible women for each man is an extreme exaggeration.

I also disagree with this. I meet men in the OPs target demographic constantly.

This sort of thing is said by a woman who these kinds of men aren't interested in.

Or it's said by a man in his 30s who never got laid in his 20s and is excited he finally has slightly better odds than the average woman.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

I disagree with this. When I was single not to long ago I never had a shortage of eligible men to date and I married someone OP would approve of. The idea that there are 30-50 eligible women for each man is an extreme exaggeration.

I also disagree with this. I meet men in the OPs target demographic constantly.

This sort of thing is said by a woman who these kinds of men aren't interested in.

Or it's said by a man in his 30s who never got laid in his 20s and is excited he finally has slightly better odds than the average woman.

+100

The fear mongering for 30something women is INSANE on dcum.

Just anecdotally I do not know ANY 30something woman who was not obese who had difficulty getting a high earning man. ANY decent looking 30something woman gets as much attention from men now than she did in her twenties.

If she does not it must be because she is fat or ugly.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

You also forget that a lot of women in their late twenties and 30s are married!! So there's a small pool of eligible men AND women in their thirties who are single.

Every 30something woman I know who was single and is attractive found a husband.

I knew this gorgeous Ukranian woman who met her Ivy grad McKinsey consultant husband in his mid thirties when she too was in her thirties. He is also hot and they make a lovely couple.

Quit with the fear mongering.

this is true and is often forgotten. only the worst of both men and women are available in their late thirties . however, men can marry women their twenties while the opposite is very unlikely to happen. now, at the end, 35 yo men marrying 25 yo women doesn't happen all that often but the possibility gives early to mid-thirty men another option that they spend time exploring. by the time they figure out they really want to marry their own peers, those peers often can't have children or are themselves married. so men who are still available in their forties truly are garbage. thirty-somethings no.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

You also forget that a lot of women in their late twenties and 30s are married!! So there's a small pool of eligible men AND women in their thirties who are single.

Every 30something woman I know who was single and is attractive found a husband.

I knew this gorgeous Ukranian woman who met her Ivy grad McKinsey consultant husband in his mid thirties when she too was in her thirties. He is also hot and they make a lovely couple.

Quit with the fear mongering.

this is true and is often forgotten. only the worst of both men and women are available in their late thirties . however, men can marry women their twenties while the opposite is very unlikely to happen. now, at the end, 35 yo men marrying 25 yo women doesn't happen all that often but the possibility gives early to mid-thirty men another option that they spend time exploring. by the time they figure out they really want to marry their own peers, those peers often can't have children or are themselves married. so men who are still available in their forties truly are garbage. thirty-somethings no.

It is often touted that a 35 year old man can marry a 25 year old girl.

It doesn't happen enough for it to be a problem for the 31 year old single woman.

More often the 35 year old single guy marries the 31-33 year old single woman.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

You also forget that a lot of women in their late twenties and 30s are married!! So there's a small pool of eligible men AND women in their thirties who are single.

Every 30something woman I know who was single and is attractive found a husband.

I knew this gorgeous Ukranian woman who met her Ivy grad McKinsey consultant husband in his mid thirties when she too was in her thirties. He is also hot and they make a lovely couple.

Quit with the fear mongering.

this is true and is often forgotten. only the worst of both men and women are available in their late thirties . however, men can marry women their twenties while the opposite is very unlikely to happen. now, at the end, 35 yo men marrying 25 yo women doesn't happen all that often but the possibility gives early to mid-thirty men another option that they spend time exploring. by the time they figure out they really want to marry their own peers, those peers often can't have children or are themselves married. so men who are still available in their forties truly are garbage. thirty-somethings no.

It is often touted that a 35 year old man can marry a 25 year old girl.

It doesn't happen enough for it to be a problem for the 31 year old single woman.

More often the 35 year old single guy marries the 31-33 year old single woman.

it is not marriages between 30s men and 20s women that are a problem for 30s women. it is their fun, 1-2 year relationships. those men think they have time to indulge in them because they feel like their options are increasing and are taking advantage of it. it's mostly an illusion but the illusion harms 30s women.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

You also forget that a lot of women in their late twenties and 30s are married!! So there's a small pool of eligible men AND women in their thirties who are single.

Every 30something woman I know who was single and is attractive found a husband.

I knew this gorgeous Ukranian woman who met her Ivy grad McKinsey consultant husband in his mid thirties when she too was in her thirties. He is also hot and they make a lovely couple.

Quit with the fear mongering.

this is true and is often forgotten. only the worst of both men and women are available in their late thirties . however, men can marry women their twenties while the opposite is very unlikely to happen. now, at the end, 35 yo men marrying 25 yo women doesn't happen all that often but the possibility gives early to mid-thirty men another option that they spend time exploring. by the time they figure out they really want to marry their own peers, those peers often can't have children or are themselves married. so men who are still available in their forties truly are garbage. thirty-somethings no.

It is often touted that a 35 year old man can marry a 25 year old girl.

It doesn't happen enough for it to be a problem for the 31 year old single woman.

More often the 35 year old single guy marries the 31-33 year old single woman.

it is not marriages between 30s men and 20s women that are a problem for 30s women. it is their fun, 1-2 year relationships. those men think they have time to indulge in them because they feel like their options are increasing and are taking advantage of it. it's mostly an illusion but the illusion harms 30s women.

What also harms late 20 and early 30 something women is their willingness to basically behave as married during their 1-2 year relationships. Often living together, and just generally over integrating their lives with a guy before there's a clear plan forward for marriage. I see it all the time. They live together, either officially or unofficially, and the woman takes that as some hint that the guy is invested, when it is often far less true than they think.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

You also forget that a lot of women in their late twenties and 30s are married!! So there's a small pool of eligible men AND women in their thirties who are single.

Every 30something woman I know who was single and is attractive found a husband.

I knew this gorgeous Ukranian woman who met her Ivy grad McKinsey consultant husband in his mid thirties when she too was in her thirties. He is also hot and they make a lovely couple.

Quit with the fear mongering.

this is true and is often forgotten. only the worst of both men and women are available in their late thirties . however, men can marry women their twenties while the opposite is very unlikely to happen. now, at the end, 35 yo men marrying 25 yo women doesn't happen all that often but the possibility gives early to mid-thirty men another option that they spend time exploring. by the time they figure out they really want to marry their own peers, those peers often can't have children or are themselves married. so men who are still available in their forties truly are garbage. thirty-somethings no.

It is often touted that a 35 year old man can marry a 25 year old girl.

It doesn't happen enough for it to be a problem for the 31 year old single woman.

More often the 35 year old single guy marries the 31-33 year old single woman.

it is not marriages between 30s men and 20s women that are a problem for 30s women. it is their fun, 1-2 year relationships. those men think they have time to indulge in them because they feel like their options are increasing and are taking advantage of it. it's mostly an illusion but the illusion harms 30s women.

What also harms late 20 and early 30 something women is their willingness to basically behave as married during their 1-2 year relationships. Often living together, and just generally over integrating their lives with a guy before there's a clear plan forward for marriage. I see it all the time. They live together, either officially or unofficially, and the woman takes that as some hint that the guy is invested, when it is often far less true than they think.

You'd have to be dumber than dirt not to have the future talk BEFORE living together. If they don't want marriage stop dating, and find someone that does.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

You also forget that a lot of women in their late twenties and 30s are married!! So there's a small pool of eligible men AND women in their thirties who are single.

Every 30something woman I know who was single and is attractive found a husband.

I knew this gorgeous Ukranian woman who met her Ivy grad McKinsey consultant husband in his mid thirties when she too was in her thirties. He is also hot and they make a lovely couple.

Quit with the fear mongering.

this is true and is often forgotten. only the worst of both men and women are available in their late thirties . however, men can marry women their twenties while the opposite is very unlikely to happen. now, at the end, 35 yo men marrying 25 yo women doesn't happen all that often but the possibility gives early to mid-thirty men another option that they spend time exploring. by the time they figure out they really want to marry their own peers, those peers often can't have children or are themselves married. so men who are still available in their forties truly are garbage. thirty-somethings no.

It is often touted that a 35 year old man can marry a 25 year old girl.

It doesn't happen enough for it to be a problem for the 31 year old single woman.

More often the 35 year old single guy marries the 31-33 year old single woman.

it is not marriages between 30s men and 20s women that are a problem for 30s women. it is their fun, 1-2 year relationships. those men think they have time to indulge in them because they feel like their options are increasing and are taking advantage of it. it's mostly an illusion but the illusion harms 30s women.

What also harms late 20 and early 30 something women is their willingness to basically behave as married during their 1-2 year relationships. Often living together, and just generally over integrating their lives with a guy before there's a clear plan forward for marriage. I see it all the time. They live together, either officially or unofficially, and the woman takes that as some hint that the guy is invested, when it is often far less true than they think.

You'd have to be dumber than dirt not to have the future talk BEFORE living together. If they don't want marriage stop dating, and find someone that does.

I agree, but plenty of women in the "Where Are All The Quality Guys?!?!?!" category ARE dumber than dirt.

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Most of the men here have shared that they would not necessarily choose s 25 year old woman vs a 32 year old woman based on age difference. The ones that do so choose (based solely on age and not on personality, education etc) are shallow dipshits anyway so your odds are no worse. Looks wise you are probably indistinguishable. It's the stress of marriage and kids that ages people, single women and DINK couples preserve their youth. With a few more years under their belts a 30 year old woman is more mature and interesting (hopefully).

Ignore the idiots who say your age is holding you back.

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A good catch:

- Has a respectable career earning a decent living = 150k+

I laffed. Not only did I laff, but I guffawed.

You think $150k+ a "decent" living. Your expectations are clearly out of whack.

Why don't you post a photo of yourself in this thread so we can determine whether you are not only worthy of a man making $150k but if you are capable of snagging one.

We'll be waiting.

I am a size 2, fit petite brunette who gets told she looks 25 and resembles Eva Longoria all the time. I love hiking, cats and lifting. I am great with children (neighborhood babysitter growing up) and have a Philosophy degree from Bryn Mawr. I do not earn a very good living and make 60k in fundraising. I do not think my requirements are outlandish. Everyone I know is married to guys with a similar profile.

If everyone you know is married to guy's with a similar profile and you're not that means you likely are the one that is lacking. I've seen this a couple of my wife's friends. Similar circle. All the husbands are of a similar status level but the couple perpetual single girlfriends will not be set up with anyone they see as "lesser" than their friends husbands. Here's the honest truth from a 30's guy that fits your profile, for the both of those friends of my wife I'd happily go out for drinks and would love to have had a go in bed with them in my single days but I can't imagine dating them seriously. Their personality precludes it.

Your post reminds me of them immensely. I'd never take the chance on a ltr with someone that categorizes me on requirements like that. Especially on 150k salary at a mid career point. I'd never trust she liked me for me, or that she wasn't ultimately after my trust funds. Would she even stick around if experienced hardship, as you know the wedding vows state you're supposed to? And the guys who are cool with a girl who significantly values their money/income; bad news. They're going for a much younger model vehicle than you. Doesn't matter how fit you are or how much you lift.

As a fellow philosophy major I think you've lost your focus. You're requirements look incredibly superficial on paper. If was single, I'd dig a hot philosophy major who I could bond with over common interests. You being in your 30's wouldn't be an issue. I met my wife when she turned 30 and I chose her over a multitude of younger women I was casually dating at the time. Stop focusing on a checklist and start looking for the Good again. Figure out the ethical qualities you want in a partner and go for that. And imagine the type of person your dream partner would want to date and start improving yourself towards that.

Lots of philosophy majors around here. I get your point and I think you make some good recs for OP, but I also don't think her "standards" are unreasonable. If she lives in the DC area, wanting a partner who makes $150k is certainly not "gold digging," as you'll be living a comfortable but not extravagant life. It's high enough that they will be able to afford a mortgage in the area. Less, and you're looking at high-rise condos (which are a bad investment) or perpetual renting instead of the modest, older houses that they'll be able to afford on $200k.

Anyone who wants to jump on me for being okay with the OP being able to afford a house with her prospective husbands, flame away. I don't think she is being unreasonable. I also don't think this salary number rules out 95% of men as some have said in this thread. Maybe that percentage is right for the whole country, but not in this area. I may be wrong about this.

Some negative people on here. DC is expensive. I'm assuming she plans to quit shortly after marriage and have children. You need to be able to live on one income so OP is very realistic. Sounds like she is planning to stay home and not have a career, so must be able to live on one income. I did it and only dated men from my socioeconomic background.

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A good catch:

- Has a respectable career earning a decent living = 150k+

I laffed. Not only did I laff, but I guffawed.

You think $150k+ a "decent" living. Your expectations are clearly out of whack.

Why don't you post a photo of yourself in this thread so we can determine whether you are not only worthy of a man making $150k but if you are capable of snagging one.

We'll be waiting.

I am a size 2, fit petite brunette who gets told she looks 25 and resembles Eva Longoria all the time. I love hiking, cats and lifting. I am great with children (neighborhood babysitter growing up) and have a Philosophy degree from Bryn Mawr. I do not earn a very good living and make 60k in fundraising. I do not think my requirements are outlandish. Everyone I know is married to guys with a similar profile.

If everyone you know is married to guy's with a similar profile and you're not that means you likely are the one that is lacking. I've seen this a couple of my wife's friends. Similar circle. All the husbands are of a similar status level but the couple perpetual single girlfriends will not be set up with anyone they see as "lesser" than their friends husbands. Here's the honest truth from a 30's guy that fits your profile, for the both of those friends of my wife I'd happily go out for drinks and would love to have had a go in bed with them in my single days but I can't imagine dating them seriously. Their personality precludes it.

Your post reminds me of them immensely. I'd never take the chance on a ltr with someone that categorizes me on requirements like that. Especially on 150k salary at a mid career point. I'd never trust she liked me for me, or that she wasn't ultimately after my trust funds. Would she even stick around if experienced hardship, as you know the wedding vows state you're supposed to? And the guys who are cool with a girl who significantly values their money/income; bad news. They're going for a much younger model vehicle than you. Doesn't matter how fit you are or how much you lift.

As a fellow philosophy major I think you've lost your focus. You're requirements look incredibly superficial on paper. If was single, I'd dig a hot philosophy major who I could bond with over common interests. You being in your 30's wouldn't be an issue. I met my wife when she turned 30 and I chose her over a multitude of younger women I was casually dating at the time. Stop focusing on a checklist and start looking for the Good again. Figure out the ethical qualities you want in a partner and go for that. And imagine the type of person your dream partner would want to date and start improving yourself towards that.

Lots of philosophy majors around here. I get your point and I think you make some good recs for OP, but I also don't think her "standards" are unreasonable. If she lives in the DC area, wanting a partner who makes $150k is certainly not "gold digging," as you'll be living a comfortable but not extravagant life. It's high enough that they will be able to afford a mortgage in the area. Less, and you're looking at high-rise condos (which are a bad investment) or perpetual renting instead of the modest, older houses that they'll be able to afford on $200k.

Anyone who wants to jump on me for being okay with the OP being able to afford a house with her prospective husbands, flame away. I don't think she is being unreasonable. I also don't think this salary number rules out 95% of men as some have said in this thread. Maybe that percentage is right for the whole country, but not in this area. I may be wrong about this.

Some negative people on here. DC is expensive. I'm assuming she plans to quit shortly after marriage and have children. You need to be able to live on one income so OP is very realistic. Sounds like she is planning to stay home and not have a career, so must be able to live on one income. I did it and only dated men from my socioeconomic background.

sounds like she is planing waay to far ahead. like, choosing drapes for the nursery without even having a steady boyfriend. this is not good planning, it's foolish.