Any quality 30+ guys left?

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

I disagree with this. When I was single not to long ago I never had a shortage of eligible men to date and I married someone OP would approve of. The idea that there are 30-50 eligible women for each man is an extreme exaggeration.

I also disagree with this. I meet men in the OPs target demographic constantly.

This sort of thing is said by a woman who these kinds of men aren't interested in.

Or it's said by a man in his 30s who never got laid in his 20s and is excited he finally has slightly better odds than the average woman.

+100

The fear mongering for 30something women is INSANE on dcum.

Just anecdotally I do not know ANY 30something woman who was not obese who had difficulty getting a high earning man. ANY decent looking 30something woman gets as much attention from men now than she did in her twenties.

If she does not it must be because she is fat or ugly.

I hear the "there aren't any good men left" stuff from women far more than I hear a similar sentiment from men of that same age.

And there is a huge difference between getting a decent man to sleep with you vs getting him to marry you.

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You wish.

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To answer your question OP...

1. Join a running club
2. Get a subscription to Sports Illustrated so you know sports
3. Take scuba classes
4. Join online dating sites
5. Ask your friends to set you up
6. Go to college reunions

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Gross, you are old enough to be her grandfather.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a quality guy, 59. I'm married, so that's a hiccup but not insurmountable.

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Anonymous wrote:For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.

I disagree with this. When I was single not to long ago I never had a shortage of eligible men to date and I married someone OP would approve of. The idea that there are 30-50 eligible women for each man is an extreme exaggeration.

I also disagree with this. I meet men in the OPs target demographic constantly.

This sort of thing is said by a woman who these kinds of men aren't interested in.

Or it's said by a man in his 30s who never got laid in his 20s and is excited he finally has slightly better odds than the average woman.

+100

The fear mongering for 30something women is INSANE on dcum.

Just anecdotally I do not know ANY 30something woman who was not obese who had difficulty getting a high earning man. ANY decent looking 30something woman gets as much attention from men now than she did in her twenties.

If she does not it must be because she is fat or ugly.

I hear the "there aren't any good men left" stuff from women far more than I hear a similar sentiment from men of that same age.

And there is a huge difference between getting a decent man to sleep with you vs getting him to marry you.

That's because men pick women based on looks while many women are more future oriented. And yes a lot of stupid women easily sleep with the man before a commitment. The smart ones don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To answer your question OP...

1. Join a running club
2. Get a subscription to Sports Illustrated so you know sports
3. Take scuba classes
4. Join online dating sites
5. Ask your friends to set you up
6. Go to college reunions

First of all, most guys don't care about that. At all. Second of all, a magazine subscription, grandpa? Much better off just watching the games and reading web sites.

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And there is a huge difference between getting a decent man to sleep with you vs getting him to marry you.

Duh, as there should be.

That's because men pick women based on looks while many women are more future oriented. And yes a lot of stupid women easily sleep with the man before a commitment. The smart ones don't.

This is truly bizarre. What problem are you trying to solve, premarital sex? You're decades too late. A man marries the woman he wants to spend the rest of his life with. That might take a year of living together to figure out.

[Anonymous]

My two cents:

Successful men in their mid-late 30s mess around with 20-something women, but often settle down with those who are a little more mature. The woman I was at 25 is drastically different from the woman I am at 35. Accomplished men will want a woman that is confident and can hold their own in his professional circle, and vice versa. I married in my 20s, but am divorced with a toddler. I have had no issue in meeting, attracting, and dating men in their 30s. I am frequently told I am attractive, and I have a decent resume and financial portfolio. I actually prefer men a bit older for the same reason; they are a bit more established in self-confidence (usually because there was more time for career to take off, which someone mentioned upthread).

I firmly believe that if you are attractive, healthy, a good natured person, with a good level of self-awareness and self-love, you will attract the same. In and outside of your peer group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. What is your definition of a good catch?
2. Why objectify men by characterizing them as objects to be caught or acquired?

Common sense?

A good catch:

- Well rounded guy who comes from a good family
- Has a respectable career earning a decent living = 150k+
- Kind and generous
- Has interest and hobbies
- A good member of society


The 30 + single guys I know are either:

- Workaholics who have deep personality or commitment issues
- Loser underachievers who have low self esteem and will not amount to much

What is it that you bring to the table OP? I find it quite humorous all these women on DCUM who are looking for rich successful guys, but can't do shit for themselves and bring nothing to the table. Nothing more attractive than someone who judges others and doesn't amount to much themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. What is your definition of a good catch?
2. Why objectify men by characterizing them as objects to be caught or acquired?

Common sense?

A good catch:

- Well rounded guy who comes from a good family
- Has a respectable career earning a decent living = 150k+
- Kind and generous
- Has interest and hobbies
- A good member of society


The 30 + single guys I know are either:

- Workaholics who have deep personality or commitment issues
- Loser underachievers who have low self esteem and will not amount to much

What is it that you bring to the table OP? I find it quite humorous all these women on DCUM who are looking for rich successful guys, but can't do shit for themselves and bring nothing to the table. Nothing more attractive than someone who judges others and doesn't amount to much themselves.

She majored in Philosophy. She can woo him with a dissertation on Kant while trying to get him to reveal his annual salary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. What is your definition of a good catch?
2. Why objectify men by characterizing them as objects to be caught or acquired?

Common sense?

A good catch:

- Well rounded guy who comes from a good family
- Has a respectable career earning a decent living = 150k+
- Kind and generous
- Has interest and hobbies
- A good member of society


The 30 + single guys I know are either:

- Workaholics who have deep personality or commitment issues
- Loser underachievers who have low self esteem and will not amount to much

What is it that you bring to the table OP? I find it quite humorous all these women on DCUM who are looking for rich successful guys, but can't do shit for themselves and bring nothing to the table. Nothing more attractive than someone who judges others and doesn't amount to much themselves.

She majored in Philosophy. She can woo him with a dissertation on Kant while trying to get him to reveal his annual salary.

"cogito ergo sum...speaking of sums...."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

LOL. I know a UM grad who spent years working at the Target in CH because she couldn't find a "real" job. So you can take your "respectable" flagship like Michigan take and shove it up your ass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. What is your definition of a good catch?
2. Why objectify men by characterizing them as objects to be caught or acquired?

Common sense?

A good catch:

- Well rounded guy who comes from a good family
- Has a respectable career earning a decent living = 150k+
- Kind and generous
- Has interest and hobbies
- A good member of society


The 30 + single guys I know are either:

- Workaholics who have deep personality or commitment issues
- Loser underachievers who have low self esteem and will not amount to much

What is it that you bring to the table OP? I find it quite humorous all these women on DCUM who are looking for rich successful guys, but can't do shit for themselves and bring nothing to the table. Nothing more attractive than someone who judges others and doesn't amount to much themselves.

She majored in Philosophy. She can woo him with a dissertation on Kant while trying to get him to reveal his annual salary.

"cogito ergo sum...speaking of sums...."

BAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous]

Op did you find a man?