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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For every reasonably-attractive, single, non-gay, non-playboy, non-insane man, in his 30s, who comes from a "good family," and is making at least $150K, there are probably at least 30-50 attractive women in their 20s and 30s. And, I honestly think that's being conservative.

Some people suggest leaving DC, but that might not be a good idea. I don't think DC women realize how much of an affluent bubble this place is. Yes, the cost-of-living is lower, but most men outside of DC/NYC/SF/Boston are relatively uneducated and make $30-80K/year. If they have a degree at all, it's from the local state university -- and I don't mean a "respectable" flagship, like Michigan. And they will almost certainly regard OP as a condescending snob.

OP, in order to beat the odds, you will need to approach dating like it's a business. Research different social scenes, figure out who the available men are. Make it a full time job. You should also consider dating older men.[/quote]

[b]You also forget that a lot of women in their late twenties and 30s are married!! So there's a small pool of eligible men AND women in their thirties who are single.[/b]

Every 30something woman I know who was single and is attractive found a husband.

I knew this gorgeous Ukranian woman who met her Ivy grad McKinsey consultant husband in his mid thirties when she too was in her thirties. He is also hot and they make a lovely couple.

Quit with the fear mongering.[/quote]

this is true and is often forgotten. only the worst of both men and women are available in their late thirties :D. however, men can marry women their twenties while the opposite is very unlikely to happen. now, at the end, 35 yo men marrying 25 yo women doesn't happen all that often but the possibility gives early to mid-thirty men another option that they spend time exploring. by the time they figure out they really want to marry their own peers, those peers often can't have children or are themselves married. so men who are still available in their forties truly are garbage. thirty-somethings no.[/quote]

It is often touted that a 35 year old man can marry a 25 year old girl.

It doesn't happen enough for it to be a problem for the 31 year old single woman.

More often the 35 year old single guy marries the 31-33 year old single woman.

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it is not marriages between 30s men and 20s women that are a problem for 30s women. it is their fun, 1-2 year relationships. those men think they have time to indulge in them because they feel like their options are increasing and are taking advantage of it. it's mostly an illusion but the illusion harms 30s women.[/quote]

What also harms late 20 and early 30 something women is their willingness to basically behave as married during their 1-2 year relationships. Often living together, and just generally over integrating their lives with a guy before there's a clear plan forward for marriage. I see it all the time. They live together, either officially or unofficially, and the woman takes that as some hint that the guy is invested, when it is often far less true than they think. [/quote]

You'd have to be dumber than dirt not to have the future talk BEFORE living together.  If they don't want marriage stop dating, and find someone that does. [/quote]

I agree, but plenty of women in the "Where Are All The Quality Guys?!?!?!" category ARE dumber than dirt.[/quote]

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