Gun store opening next door to Franklin Sherman Elementary in Mclean

[Anonymous]

People have good reason to be concerned about school shootings and violence in general, but you're kidding yourselves if you think the mentally ill and the criminally insane only legally purchase their weapons of choice from regulated gun shops. Drop in the bucket.

[Anonymous]

Given the public's response in Cherrydale, why wouldn't the store owner engage the community, and attempt to ensure the public welcomed the expanded, more visible storefront in McLean? Extremely poor judgment to re-locate to the property abutting FS elementary. Unless maybe you want to spark controversy. Seriously, even if common sense was not your strong suit, certainly you would gauge whether the McLean community was generally receptive, before you signed the lease.

Virginia and/or Fairfax County laws need to change. Seriously, it appears there are no restrictions to opening a Guns-a-Million next to a school. Not good for ANY community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it bad that it's near an elementary school? Are you worried kids will go buy guns? Are you worried that the shop's proximity will inspire a nutter to buy a gun and shoot up the school?

No one has answered this: What SPECIFICALLY bothers you about the store being close the the school?

Having followed the Cherrydale thing closely, I strongly encourage the organizers of this protest to look at the website and facebook page the Cherrydale community pulled together. It includes lots of links, including news coverage of gun-related " accidents" that have happened on the premises of gun stores as well as the risk of robberies because gun stores carry a very useful product for criminals. Don't let the 2nd Amendment talking points scare you off. My recollection is that the majority of pro-gun store people in the Cherrydale situation were not even local. The story was publicized through a well-known gun advocacy group and the harassment began. Honestly, I think the shameless bullying did more to empower the community than it did to deter. Good luck!

Great suggestion and, yes, the people defending this are largely from outside the area.

No, they are actually McLean residents, perhaps your neighbors if you're local.

Not my neighbors. I saw mine standing outside yesterday with signs. I think most of McLean is in agreement that this is not wanted.

definitely not true. It's only an issue here on this board. It's a non-issue in McLean.

I agree that most of McLean is educated enough to think for themselves, and shop where they want. Only the immediate neighbors of Ms Cherrydale need to fear her threats if they don't march to her tune. On command. Yikes! She must be a heck of a neighbor, the kind that can drive down the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given the public's response in Cherrydale, why wouldn't the store owner engage the community, and attempt to ensure the public welcomed the expanded, more visible storefront in McLean? Extremely poor judgment to re-locate to the property abutting FS elementary. Unless maybe you want to spark controversy. Seriously, even if common sense was not your strong suit, certainly you would gauge whether the McLean community was generally receptive, before you signed the lease.

Virginia and/or Fairfax County laws need to change. Seriously, it appears there are no restrictions to opening a Guns-a-Million next to a school. Not good for ANY community.

Well, lots of free publicity for one. I live in Vienna and I'm not sure I would have known about it except fro the drama. Now I'll be a regular.

And you'll need to focus beyond the VA/FFX laws. Your position requires repeal on a constitutional amendment. Look at the polls, an overwhelming amount of Americans support gun rights. You're a minority around here, you may want to relocate to DC or MD.

[Anonymous]

Does anybody know if it was really the governor's wife who signed the petition in opposition to the gun store's location near an elementary school? Someone with her name definitely signed the petition, but of course it may or may not have actually been Mrs. McAuliffe.

[Anonymous]

Fake signatures wouldn't at all be surprising, given that the ranting crazies, are well in the minority. If they had a leg to stand on, they would put up a legitimate discussion here, rather than the wild threats to the law abiding owners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given the public's response in Cherrydale, why wouldn't the store owner engage the community, and attempt to ensure the public welcomed the expanded, more visible storefront in McLean? Extremely poor judgment to re-locate to the property abutting FS elementary. Unless maybe you want to spark controversy. Seriously, even if common sense was not your strong suit, certainly you would gauge whether the McLean community was generally receptive, before you signed the lease.

Virginia and/or Fairfax County laws need to change. Seriously, it appears there are no restrictions to opening a Guns-a-Million next to a school. Not good for ANY community.

I am going to venture a guess that the owner felt that Cherrydale failed because Arlington is such a left-leaning locale. He likely considered that since he had been on Elm St for so long without issue, McLean has a more centrist population and was receptive to having a gun shop. He probably assumed that McLean residents would not fly off the handles like the Arlington people did. It looks like he miscalculated, unfortunately.

Your rhetoric underlines why people from your camp seem so ill informed with your facts and shallow minded with your reasoning. You really think he moved the gun shop to spark controversy? He had already wasted time and resources with Arlington, any business owner just wants to operate a business in peace and make lots and lots of money. The profit motive, I promise you as a fellow business owner, is a strong one. I would never ever seek out customers that weren't receptive to my goods or services, because doing so is a waste of time for everyone involved and I don't make any money in the process. I drove by the store and the "NOVA Firearms" is very muted sign. It is not one of those bright colored signs with silhouettes of guns that you sometimes see out in the country.

Why do you think opening a gun shop next too a school is not good for the community. What about gas stations that attract cars, which are known to have accidents with pedestrians, even kids going to/from school. How about paint stores that attract contractors, because we all know those workers in the white vans and dirty clothes are some times illegals and would do unthinkable things to our kids, which they must resent because their wives are cleaning our homes. <-- this is exactly how silly your arguments are.

[Anonymous]

Ms Cherrydale is a threat to every citizen who wants to shop where they choose, as allowed by the law.

If you don't like the shops, change the laws. I don't much care for the beer joints and the cigarette sellers. Can the kids please be kept out of those places? Legally, of course.

Let's not even get started on all the bank crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:Given the public's response in Cherrydale, why wouldn't the store owner engage the community, and attempt to ensure the public welcomed the expanded, more visible storefront in McLean? Extremely poor judgment to re-locate to the property abutting FS elementary. Unless maybe you want to spark controversy. Seriously, even if common sense was not your strong suit, certainly you would gauge whether the McLean community was generally receptive, before you signed the lease.

Virginia and/or Fairfax County laws need to change. Seriously, it appears there are no restrictions to opening a Guns-a-Million next to a school. Not good for ANY community.

Well, lots of free publicity for one. I live in Vienna and I'm not sure I would have known about it except fro the drama. Now I'll be a regular.

And you'll need to focus beyond the VA/FFX laws. Your position requires repeal on a constitutional amendment. Look at the polls, an overwhelming amount of Americans support gun rights. You're a minority around here, you may want to relocate to DC or MD.

So true. I live in McLean and never heard about this drama until I read this thread. I knew where the old gun shop was (in a busy intersection directly across from the Post Office - nothing every happened of course). But after reading this I will make sure I frequent the new store, which is not, adjacent to a school or "directly across the street from a toy store". Go look at an aerial map for heaven's sake. It was much closer to all you crazies when it was across from the Post Office, Subway, the medical buildings where tutors have offices, gyms, the sushi restaurant, Absolute Thai, the Indian restaurant and Wok 'n Roll. I bet you didn't even know it was there. The new location back onto business and after that the corner of the school's playground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So true. I live in McLean and never heard about this drama until I read this thread. I knew where the old gun shop was (in a busy intersection directly across from the Post Office - nothing every happened of course). But after reading this I will make sure I frequent the new store, which is not, adjacent to a school or "directly across the street from a toy store". Go look at an aerial map for heaven's sake. It was much closer to all you crazies when it was across from the Post Office, Subway, the medical buildings where tutors have offices, gyms, the sushi restaurant, Absolute Thai, the Indian restaurant and Wok 'n Roll. I bet you didn't even know it was there. The new location back onto business and after that the corner of the school's playground.

What are you talking about you damned mouth-breathing knuckle-dragger? I know GPS has made some people idiots when it comes to reading maps, but type in the new address. There's the back of the store...parking space...a tree line....bam, school. There's no businesses between it and the school, it's a direct freaking line.

And yes, many of us know it was across from the post office. I've been around long enough that if my memory is correct, the location used to be an old lawnmower/misc. repair shop. I don't think anyone is concerned that it is in McLean, they're concerned it's next to a school. You do not live in McLean, you are clearly too stupid. I swear, there needs to be a graph made comparing intelligence to number of guns fired in life; I'm positive it would be a major downward slope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Given the public's response in Cherrydale, why wouldn't the store owner engage the community, and attempt to ensure the public welcomed the expanded, more visible storefront in McLean? Extremely poor judgment to re-locate to the property abutting FS elementary. Unless maybe you want to spark controversy. Seriously, even if common sense was not your strong suit, certainly you would gauge whether the McLean community was generally receptive, before you signed the lease.

Virginia and/or Fairfax County laws need to change. Seriously, it appears there are no restrictions to opening a Guns-a-Million next to a school. Not good for ANY community.

Well, lots of free publicity for one. I live in Vienna and I'm not sure I would have known about it except fro the drama. Now I'll be a regular.

And you'll need to focus beyond the VA/FFX laws. Your position requires repeal on a constitutional amendment. Look at the polls, an overwhelming amount of Americans support gun rights. You're a minority around here, you may want to relocate to DC or MD.

This is called "The Streisand effect" in the world of PR. By misdirecting efforts (should be trying to change existing law not picketing a law abiding citizen) and publicizing an event, the OP creates the opposite effect that was intended. Now more people know about the store, and the landlord, and will frequent it. If OP had never posted, I would have never even known the gun store had moved (he was always closed and had weird hours and a bad Yelp rating). But now that so much attention has been directed to the new opening by the few, the more will frequent the store. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Given the public's response in Cherrydale, why wouldn't the store owner engage the community, and attempt to ensure the public welcomed the expanded, more visible storefront in McLean? Extremely poor judgment to re-locate to the property abutting FS elementary. Unless maybe you want to spark controversy. Seriously, even if common sense was not your strong suit, certainly you would gauge whether the McLean community was generally receptive, before you signed the lease.

Virginia and/or Fairfax County laws need to change. Seriously, it appears there are no restrictions to opening a Guns-a-Million next to a school. Not good for ANY community.

Well, lots of free publicity for one. I live in Vienna and I'm not sure I would have known about it except fro the drama. Now I'll be a regular.

And you'll need to focus beyond the VA/FFX laws. Your position requires repeal on a constitutional amendment. Look at the polls, an overwhelming amount of Americans support gun rights. You're a minority around here, you may want to relocate to DC or MD.

This is called "The Streisand effect" in the world of PR. By misdirecting efforts (should be trying to change existing law not picketing a law abiding citizen) and publicizing an event, the OP creates the opposite effect that was intended. Now more people know about the store, and the landlord, and will frequent it. If OP had never posted, I would have never even known the gun store had moved (he was always closed and had weird hours and a bad Yelp rating). But now that so much attention has been directed to the new opening by the few, the more will frequent the store. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Except . . . Cherrydale.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So true. I live in McLean and never heard about this drama until I read this thread. I knew where the old gun shop was (in a busy intersection directly across from the Post Office - nothing every happened of course). But after reading this I will make sure I frequent the new store, which is not, adjacent to a school or "directly across the street from a toy store". Go look at an aerial map for heaven's sake. It was much closer to all you crazies when it was across from the Post Office, Subway, the medical buildings where tutors have offices, gyms, the sushi restaurant, Absolute Thai, the Indian restaurant and Wok 'n Roll. I bet you didn't even know it was there. The new location back onto business and after that the corner of the school's playground.

What are you talking about you damned mouth-breathing knuckle-dragger? I know GPS has made some people idiots when it comes to reading maps, but type in the new address. There's the back of the store...parking space...a tree line....bam, school. There's no businesses between it and the school, it's a direct freaking line.

And yes, many of us know it was across from the post office. I've been around long enough that if my memory is correct, the location used to be an old lawnmower/misc. repair shop. I don't think anyone is concerned that it is in McLean, they're concerned it's next to a school. You do not live in McLean, you are clearly too stupid. I swear, there needs to be a graph made comparing intelligence to number of guns fired in life; I'm positive it would be a major downward slope.

Wow. I am not one for overtly praising our military and LEO, but your statement seriously insults those that wear the uniform.

Your statement about it being close to the school being one of the main complaints is correct, but if you pay attention to the demands of the protesters, they don't want it in McLean at all, whether or not it is next to a school. The fact that it is close to a school is simply a bright flag that they wave for attention, using the safety of their kids as canon fodder. Again, shameful tactics.

[Anonymous]

What happened to Jeff Lubin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fake signatures wouldn't at all be surprising, given that the ranting crazies, are well in the minority. If they had a leg to stand on, they would put up a legitimate discussion here, rather than the wild threats to the law abiding owners.