Some facts about Holistic Admissions Criteria from Stanford Daily

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read the Price of Admission by Daniel Golden. It is not just minorities who get preferable treatment.

Yep. But you will defend one, while vilifying the other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I implore all of you to read up - start with the book "The Gatekeepers", where minority admissions counselors go to schools looking for minority students to round out their classes. Are you Native American? Never mind those Ds and Fs on your transcript - we need you at this baby Ivy, so admitted you are, because we need Native American on campus.

Meanwhile, my friend had a Chinese exchange student. Second in his class, excellent test scores, very personable guy, a demonstrated leader. Rejected by a WHOPPING 30 AMERICAN COLLEGES. Every damn one he applied to. Didn't need a scholarship either or financial help. He has to go to school in Saudi Arabia.

And y'all have the nerve to bitch about legacies and donations in the same breath? I'd do away with that nonsense too. But y'all want your politically correct BS to stay while at the same time, doing away with what you consider privilege.

Bullshit. You are seriously telling me that this kid can't get into a less selective LAC or to a state school? I don't believe you.

All 30 turned him down. I suppose he could have applied to - and gone to - a third tier or below school. But why should he, simply because he's Asian? He is a stellar student. Can you actually tell me that AAs and Latinos going to all the schools that turned him down did better in school than him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I implore all of you to read up - start with the book "The Gatekeepers", where minority admissions counselors go to schools looking for minority students to round out their classes. Are you Native American? Never mind those Ds and Fs on your transcript - we need you at this baby Ivy, so admitted you are, because we need Native American on campus.

Meanwhile, my friend had a Chinese exchange student. Second in his class, excellent test scores, very personable guy, a demonstrated leader. Rejected by a WHOPPING 30 AMERICAN COLLEGES. Every damn one he applied to. Didn't need a scholarship either or financial help. He has to go to school in Saudi Arabia.

And y'all have the nerve to bitch about legacies and donations in the same breath? I'd do away with that nonsense too. But y'all want your politically correct BS to stay while at the same time, doing away with what you consider privilege.

Bullshit. You are seriously telling me that this kid can't get into a less selective LAC or to a state school? I don't believe you.

Could have been rejected for obvious plagiarism in the essay or fraud on his Chinese transcript. At my alma mater, a large proportion of the international applicants get tossed out for those reasons. There is a whole industry of "college counselors" in China that produce ridiculously glossy application books for their clients and they have few ethical restraints to prevent fake transcripts and essays.

You are actually making stuff up about him to justify your racism. Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I implore all of you to read up - start with the book "The Gatekeepers", where minority admissions counselors go to schools looking for minority students to round out their classes. Are you Native American? Never mind those Ds and Fs on your transcript - we need you at this baby Ivy, so admitted you are, because we need Native American on campus.

Meanwhile, my friend had a Chinese exchange student. Second in his class, excellent test scores, very personable guy, a demonstrated leader. Rejected by a WHOPPING 30 AMERICAN COLLEGES. Every damn one he applied to. Didn't need a scholarship either or financial help. He has to go to school in Saudi Arabia.

And y'all have the nerve to bitch about legacies and donations in the same breath? I'd do away with that nonsense too. But y'all want your politically correct BS to stay while at the same time, doing away with what you consider privilege.

Bullshit. You are seriously telling me that this kid can't get into a less selective LAC or to a state school? I don't believe you.

Could have been rejected for obvious plagiarism in the essay or fraud on his Chinese transcript. At my alma mater, a large proportion of the international applicants get tossed out for those reasons. There is a whole industry of "college counselors" in China that produce ridiculously glossy application books for their clients and they have few ethical restraints to prevent fake transcripts and essays.

Racist. The post says "exchange student" so the student attended school in the US not in China. Chinese do not have monopoly on "fraud". Other races including whites commit all kinds of fraud.

He might have sat for SATs in China before coming here as exchange student, and we all have read the articles about the SAT fraud in Asia. The College Board even nixed SAT results from Korea (?) one time. I noticed how the PP said "excellent test scores" but not grades
And I am really sorry for the kids in Asia. It's like even if they do not want to cheat, they are forced to because everyone is doing it and the stakes are so high. I am not OK with bringing this attitude stateside though.

He did them here. I know that for a fact.

Look at the way y'all are trying to justify the fact this kid was shut down due to race. Even with colleges stating to media they are doing just that to Asians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlikely the kid took SAT in China before high school and used it for college admissions and there was a huge SAT scandal involving bunch of white kids in New York state few years ago where kids were paid to take the SAT for other students.

Exchange students usually come to the US for a year or two, so he may have completed 1-2 years of HS.

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May, might, coulda. He did all four here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's always "attack the Asians." Whites are too too timid and scared to attack blacks or Hispanics. Grow some spine if you really want to be an equal opportunity racist idiots.

Or, is it that you secretly wonder if the Asians are indeed superior in intellect and work ethic, you know the great American principle?

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All 30 turned him down. I suppose he could have applied to - and gone to - a third tier or below school. But why should he, simply because he's Asian? He is a stellar student. Can you actually tell me that AAs and Latinos going to all the schools that turned him down did better in school than him?

Even if their GPA is lower, they would stay in the States after college and become contributing members of society. In this sense, they are more suitable candidates for admission than a "stellar student" who lacks humility and realism (otherwise he would have applied to safety schools).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All 30 turned him down. I suppose he could have applied to - and gone to - a third tier or below school. But why should he, simply because he's Asian? He is a stellar student. Can you actually tell me that AAs and Latinos going to all the schools that turned him down did better in school than him?

Even if their GPA is lower, they would stay in the States after college and become contributing members of society. In this sense, they are more suitable candidates for admission than a "stellar student" who lacks humility and realism (otherwise he would have applied to safety schools).

The kid apparently applied to safety schools since he also applied to 2nd tier schools. Don't assume the lacks humility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlikely the kid took SAT in China before high school and used it for college admissions and there was a huge SAT scandal involving bunch of white kids in New York state few years ago where kids were paid to take the SAT for other students.

Exchange students usually come to the US for a year or two, so he may have completed 1-2 years of HS.

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May, might, coulda. He did all four here.

No one but the student and the admissions officers know what is in any particular student's application. Something was going on with this kid's application that 30 different sets of admissions officers decided to send him a "We regret to inform you..." letter. My guess would be something with the essays, either the writing quality or the subject.

Lots of Asian kids get accepted to lots of different colleges, so I highly doubt that 30 different schools decided to turn down this one kid solely because he is Asian. There's something else going on there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one but the student and the admissions officers know what is in any particular student's application. Something was going on with this kid's application that 30 different sets of admissions officers decided to send him a "We regret to inform you..." letter. My guess would be something with the essays, either the writing quality or the subject.

Lots of Asian kids get accepted to lots of different colleges, so I highly doubt that 30 different schools decided to turn down this one kid solely because he is Asian. There's something else going on there.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one but the student and the admissions officers know what is in any particular student's application. Something was going on with this kid's application that 30 different sets of admissions officers decided to send him a "We regret to inform you..." letter. My guess would be something with the essays, either the writing quality or the subject.

Lots of Asian kids get accepted to lots of different colleges, so I highly doubt that 30 different schools decided to turn down this one kid solely because he is Asian. There's something else going on there.

Yep.

Agreed. 30 colleges is a lot, so I'm guessing there was either a problem with his application or his self-perception. I'm also confused about the use of the word "exchange student" to mean someone here for 4+ years. That's not really an exchange - that's doing high school abroad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one but the student and the admissions officers know what is in any particular student's application. Something was going on with this kid's application that 30 different sets of admissions officers decided to send him a "We regret to inform you..." letter. My guess would be something with the essays, either the writing quality or the subject.

Lots of Asian kids get accepted to lots of different colleges, so I highly doubt that 30 different schools decided to turn down this one kid solely because he is Asian. There's something else going on there.

Yep.

Agreed. 30 colleges is a lot, so I'm guessing there was either a problem with his application or his self-perception. I'm also confused about the use of the word "exchange student" to mean someone here for 4+ years. That's not really an exchange - that's doing high school abroad.

You people are truly, TRULY in the dark about the Admissions process and discrimination. It doesn't fit YOUR definition and so the KID did something wrong.

Hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlikely the kid took SAT in China before high school and used it for college admissions and there was a huge SAT scandal involving bunch of white kids in New York state few years ago where kids were paid to take the SAT for other students.

Exchange students usually come to the US for a year or two, so he may have completed 1-2 years of HS.

l

May, might, coulda. He did all four here.

No one but the student and the admissions officers know what is in any particular student's application. Something was going on with this kid's application that 30 different sets of admissions officers decided to send him a "We regret to inform you..." letter. My guess would be something with the essays, either the writing quality or the subject.

Lots of Asian kids get accepted to lots of different colleges, so I highly doubt that 30 different schools decided to turn down this one kid solely because he is Asian. There's something else going on there.

Yes. He checked Asian. Signed - White Chick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All 30 turned him down. I suppose he could have applied to - and gone to - a third tier or below school. But why should he, simply because he's Asian? He is a stellar student. Can you actually tell me that AAs and Latinos going to all the schools that turned him down did better in school than him?

Even if their GPA is lower, they would stay in the States after college and become contributing members of society. In this sense, they are more suitable candidates for admission than a "stellar student" who lacks humility and realism (otherwise he would have applied to safety schools).

He was turned down by his safety schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlikely the kid took SAT in China before high school and used it for college admissions and there was a huge SAT scandal involving bunch of white kids in New York state few years ago where kids were paid to take the SAT for other students.

Exchange students usually come to the US for a year or two, so he may have completed 1-2 years of HS.

l

May, might, coulda. He did all four here.

No one but the student and the admissions officers know what is in any particular student's application. Something was going on with this kid's application that 30 different sets of admissions officers decided to send him a "We regret to inform you..." letter. My guess would be something with the essays, either the writing quality or the subject.

Lots of Asian kids get accepted to lots of different colleges, so I highly doubt that 30 different schools decided to turn down this one kid solely because he is Asian. There's something else going on there.

Yes. He checked Asian. Signed - White Chick.

Then why do so many other kids who are Asian and have checked Asian get accepted at these same schools? Why did 30 schools all pick this one kid to reject just because he is Asian and for no other reason?