10yo embarrased by hairy legs and wants to shave. i am at a loss.

[Anonymous]

Patriarchal PP, I still don't get this. Do you let your DH or DS shave or would that be buying into the patriarchal rule that his body is never okay as it is? Or is it the matriarchal rule...so confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really, really don't get how not shaving your legs can be a value....except of the most superficial kind. Mom, let her shave her legs!

I'm getting pretty tired of this going round and round, but I'll try to summarize it for you:

Not shaving means, for me:

- not adopting the patriarchal rule that your body is never ever ok as it is, especially if you're a woman, and you need to work on adapting it to ever-moving goalposts,
- not falling into the lie that hairs are ugly or undesirable,
- having one less shallow thing filling my head, thus being able to think about important things in life
- not falling into the traps that advertisers carefully prepare, i.e. you'll be happy once you'll buy our product (in this case, shaving products/devices)
- saving money that can be devoted to more important personal/family financial goals
- more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving.

Yes, we heard you. Ad nauseam. Thanks for yet another summation.



"more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving" That 5-10 minutes you safe must be life affirming.

PS you crazy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Patriarchal PP, I still don't get this. Do you let your DH or DS shave or would that be buying into the patriarchal rule that his body is never okay as it is? Or is it the matriarchal rule...so confused.

In our home, the rule is "your body, your choice" unless it's a safety issue.

So yes, they would be allowed to shave. It would only happen after they'd be armed with knowledge about the background of such a decision, and it would happen according to our house rules, which I outlined in another post (cruelty-free products only, at home and not at a salon, frugally).

I hope I was clear... and if anything, I'm anti-patriarchy, not patriarchal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really, really don't get how not shaving your legs can be a value....except of the most superficial kind. Mom, let her shave her legs!

I'm getting pretty tired of this going round and round, but I'll try to summarize it for you:

Not shaving means, for me:

- not adopting the patriarchal rule that your body is never ever ok as it is, especially if you're a woman, and you need to work on adapting it to ever-moving goalposts,
- not falling into the lie that hairs are ugly or undesirable,
- having one less shallow thing filling my head, thus being able to think about important things in life
- not falling into the traps that advertisers carefully prepare, i.e. you'll be happy once you'll buy our product (in this case, shaving products/devices)
- saving money that can be devoted to more important personal/family financial goals
- more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving.

Yes, we heard you. Ad nauseam. Thanks for yet another summation.



"more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving" That 5-10 minutes you safe must be life affirming.

PS you crazy

The other poster asked. I was courteous and I responded.

5/10 minutes of my life, not yours. Add it up for the duration of your life, and you'll see.

PS: you're not a psychiatrist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Patriarchal PP, I still don't get this. Do you let your DH or DS shave or would that be buying into the patriarchal rule that his body is never okay as it is? Or is it the matriarchal rule...so confused.

In our home, the rule is "your body, your choice" unless it's a safety issue.

So yes, they would be allowed to shave. It would only happen after they'd be armed with knowledge about the background of such a decision, and it would happen according to our house rules, which I outlined in another post (cruelty-free products only, at home and not at a salon, frugally).

I hope I was clear... and if anything, I'm anti-patriarchy, not patriarchal.

Sorry, I read "DD" instead of "DH".

DH is an adult. I don't allow or not allow him to do things. We don't have a FLR marriage. He doesn't need to be armed with knowledge, because he's already knowledgeable on such topics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really, really don't get how not shaving your legs can be a value....except of the most superficial kind. Mom, let her shave her legs!

I'm getting pretty tired of this going round and round, but I'll try to summarize it for you:

Not shaving means, for me:

- not adopting the patriarchal rule that your body is never ever ok as it is, especially if you're a woman, and you need to work on adapting it to ever-moving goalposts,
- not falling into the lie that hairs are ugly or undesirable,
- having one less shallow thing filling my head, thus being able to think about important things in life
- not falling into the traps that advertisers carefully prepare, i.e. you'll be happy once you'll buy our product (in this case, shaving products/devices)
- saving money that can be devoted to more important personal/family financial goals
- more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving.

Yes, we heard you. Ad nauseam. Thanks for yet another summation.



"more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving" That 5-10 minutes you safe must be life affirming.

PS you crazy

The other poster asked. I was courteous and I responded.

5/10 minutes of my life, not yours. Add it up for the duration of your life, and you'll see.

PS: you're not a psychiatrist.

How do you know s/he isn't?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really, really don't get how not shaving your legs can be a value....except of the most superficial kind. Mom, let her shave her legs!

I'm getting pretty tired of this going round and round, but I'll try to summarize it for you:

Not shaving means, for me:

- not adopting the patriarchal rule that your body is never ever ok as it is, especially if you're a woman, and you need to work on adapting it to ever-moving goalposts,
- not falling into the lie that hairs are ugly or undesirable,
- having one less shallow thing filling my head, thus being able to think about important things in life
- not falling into the traps that advertisers carefully prepare, i.e. you'll be happy once you'll buy our product (in this case, shaving products/devices)
- saving money that can be devoted to more important personal/family financial goals
- more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving.

Yes, we heard you. Ad nauseam. Thanks for yet another summation.



"more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving" That 5-10 minutes you safe must be life affirming.

PS you crazy

The other poster asked. I was courteous and I responded.

5/10 minutes of my life, not yours. Add it up for the duration of your life, and you'll see.

PS: you're not a psychiatrist.

Oh please. You have completely derailed this thread spouting your nonsense over and over and over. WE GET IT.

Fight the power sister - rock those hairy pits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really, really don't get how not shaving your legs can be a value....except of the most superficial kind. Mom, let her shave her legs!

I'm getting pretty tired of this going round and round, but I'll try to summarize it for you:

Not shaving means, for me:

- not adopting the patriarchal rule that your body is never ever ok as it is, especially if you're a woman, and you need to work on adapting it to ever-moving goalposts,
- not falling into the lie that hairs are ugly or undesirable,
- having one less shallow thing filling my head, thus being able to think about important things in life
- not falling into the traps that advertisers carefully prepare, i.e. you'll be happy once you'll buy our product (in this case, shaving products/devices)
- saving money that can be devoted to more important personal/family financial goals
- more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving.

Yes, we heard you. Ad nauseam. Thanks for yet another summation.



"more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving" That 5-10 minutes you safe must be life affirming.

PS you crazy

The other poster asked. I was courteous and I responded.

5/10 minutes of my life, not yours. Add it up for the duration of your life, and you'll see.

PS: you're not a psychiatrist.

How do you know s/he isn't?

The same way s/he knows I have a mental conditions (I don't). S/he is shooting in the dark and labelling so why don't I get to do the same?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really, really don't get how not shaving your legs can be a value....except of the most superficial kind. Mom, let her shave her legs!

I'm getting pretty tired of this going round and round, but I'll try to summarize it for you:

Not shaving means, for me:

- not adopting the patriarchal rule that your body is never ever ok as it is, especially if you're a woman, and you need to work on adapting it to ever-moving goalposts,
- not falling into the lie that hairs are ugly or undesirable,
- having one less shallow thing filling my head, thus being able to think about important things in life
- not falling into the traps that advertisers carefully prepare, i.e. you'll be happy once you'll buy our product (in this case, shaving products/devices)
- saving money that can be devoted to more important personal/family financial goals
- more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving.

Yes, we heard you. Ad nauseam. Thanks for yet another summation.



"more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving" That 5-10 minutes you safe must be life affirming.

PS you crazy

The other poster asked. I was courteous and I responded.

5/10 minutes of my life, not yours. Add it up for the duration of your life, and you'll see.

PS: you're not a psychiatrist.

Oh please. You have completely derailed this thread spouting your nonsense over and over and over. WE GET IT.

Fight the power sister - rock those hairy pits.

Look, if someone is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read my posts, call the police, don't tell me.

Another poster asked a question. I was brought up with the rule that it's polite to answer someone's questions, unless they're malicious and taunting. I'll rock my hairy pits, you learn some manners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really, really don't get how not shaving your legs can be a value....except of the most superficial kind. Mom, let her shave her legs!

I'm getting pretty tired of this going round and round, but I'll try to summarize it for you:

Not shaving means, for me:

- not adopting the patriarchal rule that your body is never ever ok as it is, especially if you're a woman, and you need to work on adapting it to ever-moving goalposts,
- not falling into the lie that hairs are ugly or undesirable,
- having one less shallow thing filling my head, thus being able to think about important things in life
- not falling into the traps that advertisers carefully prepare, i.e. you'll be happy once you'll buy our product (in this case, shaving products/devices)
- saving money that can be devoted to more important personal/family financial goals
- more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving.

Yes, we heard you. Ad nauseam. Thanks for yet another summation.



"more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving" That 5-10 minutes you safe must be life affirming.

PS you crazy

The other poster asked. I was courteous and I responded.

5/10 minutes of my life, not yours. Add it up for the duration of your life, and you'll see.

PS: you're not a psychiatrist.

Oh please. You have completely derailed this thread spouting your nonsense over and over and over. WE GET IT.

Fight the power sister - rock those hairy pits.

Look, if someone is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read my posts, call the police, don't tell me.

Another poster asked a question. I was brought up with the rule that it's polite to answer someone's questions, unless they're malicious and taunting. I'll rock my hairy pits, you learn some manners.

You learn to stop beating a dead horse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really, really don't get how not shaving your legs can be a value....except of the most superficial kind. Mom, let her shave her legs!

I'm getting pretty tired of this going round and round, but I'll try to summarize it for you:

Not shaving means, for me:

- not adopting the patriarchal rule that your body is never ever ok as it is, especially if you're a woman, and you need to work on adapting it to ever-moving goalposts,
- not falling into the lie that hairs are ugly or undesirable,
- having one less shallow thing filling my head, thus being able to think about important things in life
- not falling into the traps that advertisers carefully prepare, i.e. you'll be happy once you'll buy our product (in this case, shaving products/devices)
- saving money that can be devoted to more important personal/family financial goals
- more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving.

Yes, we heard you. Ad nauseam. Thanks for yet another summation.



"more time for whatever the heck I feel like doing, instead of using it for shaving" That 5-10 minutes you safe must be life affirming.

PS you crazy

The other poster asked. I was courteous and I responded.

5/10 minutes of my life, not yours. Add it up for the duration of your life, and you'll see.

PS: you're not a psychiatrist.

Oh please. You have completely derailed this thread spouting your nonsense over and over and over. WE GET IT.

Fight the power sister - rock those hairy pits.

Look, if someone is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read my posts, call the police, don't tell me.

Another poster asked a question. I was brought up with the rule that it's polite to answer someone's questions, unless they're malicious and taunting. I'll rock my hairy pits, you learn some manners.

We should all aspire to be just like you.

[Anonymous]

Wait a minute. Psycho Nonshaving Mom, are you also the mom that, a few weeks back, posted about how your daughter gets to decide if/when she wears shoes? Under the guise of "consensual parenting."

If not, you and she should get together for the wackiest play date ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait a minute. Psycho Nonshaving Mom, are you also the mom that, a few weeks back, posted about how your daughter gets to decide if/when she wears shoes? Under the guise of "consensual parenting."

If not, you and she should get together for the wackiest play date ever.

Honestly I didn't know these nutty crunchy san fransiscoesque moms existed in DC... have I been living in a bubble?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait a minute. Psycho Nonshaving Mom, are you also the mom that, a few weeks back, posted about how your daughter gets to decide if/when she wears shoes? Under the guise of "consensual parenting."

If not, you and she should get together for the wackiest play date ever.

Oh oh!! Are you the crazy perfume poster that thinks people who wear chanel should be kicked out of places and are low-SES?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait a minute. Psycho Nonshaving Mom, are you also the mom that, a few weeks back, posted about how your daughter gets to decide if/when she wears shoes? Under the guise of "consensual parenting."

If not, you and she should get together for the wackiest play date ever.

Honestly I didn't know these nutty crunchy san fransiscoesque moms existed in DC... have I been living in a bubble?

Hey now, I'm crunchy nutty sanfranciscoesque, and I'm the one who told her she'd be in for some surprises when her kids were older.