FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was there a reason given for Lees Corner getting super special treatment? Does a SB member live there?

I wondered this too, they capitulated so fast and made the promise so quickly it certainly seemed like a personal favor. There was no logical reason to single out that one neighborhood as more important than any other area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was there a reason given for Lees Corner getting super special treatment? Does a SB member live there?

I wondered this too, they capitulated so fast and made the promise so quickly it certainly seemed like a personal favor. There was no logical reason to single out that one neighborhood as more important than any other area.

1. Lee's Corner was not in the mix in the first maps.
2. It made no sense. It was ridiculous on its face.

[Anonymous]

The other Chantilly neighborhoods should be very nervous. Oak Hill is gone, Lees Corner had their tantrum rewarded, so that leaves the other ES boundaries up for consideration. Someone's gotta go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was there a reason given for Lees Corner getting super special treatment? Does a SB member live there?

I wondered this too, they capitulated so fast and made the promise so quickly it certainly seemed like a personal favor. There was no logical reason to single out that one neighborhood as more important than any other area.

1. Lee's Corner was not in the mix in the first maps.
2. It made no sense. It was ridiculous on its face.

It made sense to everyone except the LC families. Why do you think completely independent consultants put that move into two out of three options? Because it was logical.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the relative of a SB member lives there. Harder to trace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is the closest HS to Westfield (except Skyview).

Kids need to be moved from somewhere to fill Westfield. Of course Chantilly neighborhoods are the logical choice for that as they are by far the closest.

They have repeatedly referred to overcrowding at Centreville as one of the main reasons to purchase Skyview.

Centreville isn't near Skyview, so the relief to Centreville comes from moving Centreville kids to Westfield or Chantilly, not Skyview. And since more Skyview kids will come from Westfield than any other school, moving Centreville kids to Westfield solves two problems at once.

Stop pretending there's only one "logical choice" here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

Its exactly the same situation as RIO.

Literally *exactly the same*.
Two different, completely unbiased groups of consultants proposed that it made sense to move these two wealthy, well-connected neighborhoods of single family homes to schools they were very close by that needed seats filled. Residents of both neighborhoods had enormous tantrums and extracted special promises and special treatment from FCPS political hacks.

If you don't see how these situations are absolutely identical, then you must be seriously low IQ.

There is a huge difference. In one case, folks are fighting to stay at a school with a much longer commute when it makes more sense for them to go to the new closer school (RIO).

Oh the other case, they wanted to send a community within walking distance of a high school to one further away (Lees Corner).

You’re the one with low IQ here.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand the argument that Lees Corner should move from Chantilly to Westfield. There are 2 elementary school districts that feed to Chantilly that are closer to Westfield - Brookfield and Poplar Tree. Both also border Westfield neighborhoods, which Lees Corner does not. I’m not saying it makes sense for them to move either - just like Lees Corner they have lots of walkers- but for am those saying proximity to Chantilly doesn’t matter, then why would t the elementary school districts closer to Westfield move?

[Anonymous]

Highland Oaks has been proposed to move from Chantilly to Oakton. Does anyone think that makes sense? They are also in walking distance of Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Highland Oaks has been proposed to move from Chantilly to Oakton. Does anyone think that makes sense? They are also in walking distance of Chantilly.

No

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the argument that Lees Corner should move from Chantilly to Westfield. There are 2 elementary school districts that feed to Chantilly that are closer to Westfield - Brookfield and Poplar Tree. Both also border Westfield neighborhoods, which Lees Corner does not. I’m not saying it makes sense for them to move either - just like Lees Corner they have lots of walkers- but for am those saying proximity to Chantilly doesn’t matter, then why would t the elementary school districts closer to Westfield move?

Well, they are certainly being considered now that Lees Corner and Walney Oaks got special treatment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was there a reason given for Lees Corner getting super special treatment? Does a SB member live there?

I wondered this too, they capitulated so fast and made the promise so quickly it certainly seemed like a personal favor. There was no logical reason to single out that one neighborhood as more important than any other area.

1. Lee's Corner was not in the mix in the first maps.
2. It made no sense. It was ridiculous on its face.

It made sense to everyone except the LC families. Why do you think completely independent consultants put that move into two out of three options? Because it was logical.

No. Not a Lee's Corner family here. It makes logical sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Highland Oaks has been proposed to move from Chantilly to Oakton. Does anyone think that makes sense? They are also in walking distance of Chantilly.

CHS is a very small zone. Every ES probably has some walkers. But no, that move makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

What makes you think this consultant knew what they were doing? Speaking from my neighborhood, they took a small portion of our elementary school boundary and took them out of the rest of their neighborhood which currently is in the elementary school. Really stupid move. So, no, I don't think these people were objective or experts.

But, people are mistaken if they think the School Board members are out of line. Perhaps, they should not have been so vocal, but the decision is THEIRS. At least, it always has been in the past. (Ask me how I know? I've been involved in three boundary discussions.) They vote on it.

And, it does not make any sense to take kids who are five minutes from the school and send them 20 to 30 minutes away. If any Centreville students are five minutes from Centreville and being sent 20 to 30 minutes away, that also does not make sense. I don't think that is the case, but, if it is, please feel free to post the details here.