FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

What I meant is the process not the rationale.

Should the school board members make a boundary decison based on the feedback and announce it without going through formal meetings/discussions?

Its absolutely crazy that mid-process, SB members are announcing that this school or that school won't be moved, when hired, independent consultants pinpointed those particular neighborhoods as those that made the most sense to move based on the factors they were given by FCPS.

How are the consultants supposed to suggest logical boundaries when the SB is tying their hands by building a moat around the wealthiest, loudest neighborhoods?

Because the consultants made some very poor recommendations that were easily pointed out.

I have yet to see a School Board comment on RIO/Crossfield/Oakton vs Skyview.

People keep saying RIO won. I am not so sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

Its exactly the same situation as RIO.

No. Look at a map.

Explain why a map makes the situations different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

What I meant is the process not the rationale.

Should the school board members make a boundary decison based on the feedback and announce it without going through formal meetings/discussions?

Its absolutely crazy that mid-process, SB members are announcing that this school or that school won't be moved, when hired, independent consultants pinpointed those particular neighborhoods as those that made the most sense to move based on the factors they were given by FCPS.

How are the consultants supposed to suggest logical boundaries when the SB is tying their hands by building a moat around the wealthiest, loudest neighborhoods?

Because the consultants made some very poor recommendations that were easily pointed out.

I have yet to see a School Board comment on RIO/Crossfield/Oakton vs Skyview.

People keep saying RIO won. I am not so sure.

"Poor recommendations" according to Lees Corner families.

A lot of posters on here thought the suggestion was very logical. Wasn't moving LC on 2 out of 3 maps? Because...it made sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will be incredibly racist and classist if the poor, minority-heavy Bull Run ES neighborhoods that also don't want to move high schools do not get treated the same as the Lees Corner/RIO tantrummers.

Ah, yes. I’m sure you’ve spent a lot of time asking what those Bull Run neighborhoods- as opposed to your own - prefer.

The process (or lack of a real one) sucks. No one should be criticized for speaking up early, loudly, and often when that’s what works.

Vote out Dixit, Sandy Anderson, McDaniel, Lady, and Frisch next year if you don’t like how things are being handled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

No, on the merits you have kids who don't have to be bussed getting on a bus vs kids who will have to be bussed further than they are currently being bussed. No one is buying your attempts to reframe the problem as a proximity-only equation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

No, on the merits you have kids who don't have to be bussed getting on a bus vs kids who will have to be bussed further than they are currently being bussed. No one is buying your attempts to reframe the problem as a proximity-only equation.

I hope one day you’re self-aware enough to realize that’s essentially what you just did.

[Anonymous]

The hypocrisy and lack of self awareness from
the Lees Corner parent is really something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

Just like in the broader boundary study: if you complain loudly enough, they will wuss out and leave you alone.

It is significant that McDaniel said Lees Corner would remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid. In other words, Lees Corner is not going to Skyview either.

This means two things:

1. Somebody else has to be moved out of Chantill boundary
2. It is either Fox Mill and/or Crossfield going to Skyview

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

Just like in the broader boundary study: if you complain loudly enough, they will wuss out and leave you alone.

It is significant that McDaniel said Lees Corner would remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid. In other words, Lees Corner is not going to Skyview either.

This means two things:

1. Somebody else has to be moved out of Chantill boundary
2. It is either Fox Mill and/or Crossfield going to Skyview

I think you do not get it.

Oak Hill is being moved out of Chantilly. That is likely 300+.
No one else has to be moved out, though it would make sense to to move those near 28 and south of 50 to Westfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

Just like in the broader boundary study: if you complain loudly enough, they will wuss out and leave you alone.

It is significant that McDaniel said Lees Corner would remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid. In other words, Lees Corner is not going to Skyview either.

This means two things:

1. Somebody else has to be moved out of Chantill boundary
2. It is either Fox Mill and/or Crossfield going to Skyview

You are giving him way too much credit. They made that promise rashly with no understanding of the rest of the moving parts.

[Anonymous]

Chantilly is the closest HS to Westfield (except Skyview).

Kids need to be moved from somewhere to fill Westfield. Of course Chantilly neighborhoods are the logical choice for that as they are by far the closest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

Just like in the broader boundary study: if you complain loudly enough, they will wuss out and leave you alone.

It is significant that McDaniel said Lees Corner would remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid. In other words, Lees Corner is not going to Skyview either.

This means two things:

1. Somebody else has to be moved out of Chantill boundary
2. It is either Fox Mill and/or Crossfield going to Skyview

I think you do not get it.

Oak Hill is being moved out of Chantilly. That is likely 300+.
No one else has to be moved out, though it would make sense to to move those near 28 and south of 50 to Westfield.

Oh I completely get it.

Chantilly is at 126% without modulars. Excluding 300 kids from Oakton, Chantilly would be still more than 110%.

Westfield is losing 1,000 kids and will be at around 65% without backfills.

But don't worry. LC is safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

Just like in the broader boundary study: if you complain loudly enough, they will wuss out and leave you alone.

It is significant that McDaniel said Lees Corner would remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid. In other words, Lees Corner is not going to Skyview either.

This means two things:

1. Somebody else has to be moved out of Chantill boundary
2. It is either Fox Mill and/or Crossfield going to Skyview

I think you do not get it.

Oak Hill is being moved out of Chantilly. That is likely 300+.
No one else has to be moved out, though it would make sense to to move those near 28 and south of 50 to Westfield.

Oh I completely get it.

Chantilly is at 126% without modulars. Excluding 300 kids from Oakton, Chantilly would be still more than 110%.

Westfield is losing 1,000 kids and will be at around 65% without backfills.

But don't worry. LC is safe.

As it should be. It is across the street from Chantilly. Most kids at Lee's Corner live one to two miles from the school. And, you want to put them on a bus through heavy traffic and no other contiguous neighborhoods from Westfield.

[Anonymous]

Was there a reason given for Lees Corner getting super special treatment? Does a SB member live there?

[Anonymous]

The entire Chantilly zone is super compact. Every single neighborhood can make that same argument. But it is much closer to Westfield than any other HS. Someone has to be moved and moving kids from much farther away goes against FCPS's own policy.

So, who's it going to be from Chantilly?