Conservatives of DCUM - where do you draw the line?

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Anonymous wrote:Has a line been identified yet?

Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:Has a line been identified yet?

The line is drawn in relation to any action Trump makes; whatever he does is okay for his loyalists.

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I draw the line if he pardons himself or his family.

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If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?

My opinion of Trump does not matter because it has no power to seat/unseat a president. Just because Trump acts like a Democrat does not mean I will stop supporting the Republican party. If Trump is removed, it will be president Vance. If Trump stays, more Liberals implode, some by self-immolation, some to live in a mental asylum which is what the Democratic party looks like to me: a loony bin full of weird-haired circus freaks screaming about pronouns.

Win-Win.

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

It is not about brown people—way to go supporting that stupid narrative, it is about waves of lawless invaders crossing our borders which is illegal to do regardless of skin color.

The equivalent of due process is served if a person is in this country without a visa or proper authorization. Not being able to speak English along with no identification means Uncle Sam’s big boot goes right into your butt and out the door you go. Good-bye and good riddance!

From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.

Anything Trump does is 10,000 times better than anything the Democrats would do. In some cases, Trump is the lesser of two evils.

The Democratic party is the party of murder, sexual deviance, and perversion. It is soft on crime, giving light sentences or none at all for those who do evil.

Calling Democrats the “party of perversion and crime” is projection at best and propaganda at worst. Let’s unpack the irony:

- 34-time FELON Donald Trump has been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation by a jury in the E. Jean Carroll case, and ordered to pay over $88 million in damages. That’s not hearsay or fake news, it’s a legal verdict.

- More than 25 women have publicly accused Trump of sexual misconduct, including rape, groping, and walking in on underage pageant contestants.

- Republican leaders defended Roy Moore, a Senate candidate accused of pursuing teenage girls when he was in his 30s.

- Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican Speaker of the House, admitted to sexually abusing teenage boys and paid hush money to cover it up.

- Matt Gaetz, a sitting Republican congressman, is under investigation for sex trafficking of a minor.

If you want to talk about “perversion,” start with the party that keeps elevating men with credible sexual abuse allegations and covering them up, as Republicans are currently doing with the Epstein files.

As for crime? Democratic-led cities have seen drops in violent crime, and Democratic lawmakers have passed bipartisan legislation to fund police and reform sentencing. Meanwhile, Republicans push fear-based narratives while opposing gun safety laws that could actually reduce crime.

And on immigration: ICE under Trump has violated due process repeatedly, detaining migrants without hearings, deporting them to third countries with as little as six hours’ notice, and even arresting people inside courthouses without warrants. That’s not law and order—it’s authoritarianism.

So no, Democrats aren’t the party of crime or perversion. They’re the party trying to fix broken systems while Republicans defend abusers, ignore court rulings, and weaponize cruelty for political gain.

No one thinks a NY jury is capable of applying the law correctly any more than people are persuaded by so-called "credible" allegations of sexual assault. Those words no longer have meaning because Democrats have corrupted our systems.

Karma can be a biatch for you and all the females in your life. How could you be so dismissive and disgusting of all those women who finally came out of the shadows to testify under oath against predator trump.

This type of stuff doesn't happen to the women in my life, and I don't find the gang-piling to make their allegations more credible.

If you want to convince me you can tell credible accusations apart from bad ones, please tell me the best reasons why Christine Ford's allegations likely lacked merit?

Because the party of pedophiles had his back. Many were sitting in the Hart Senate Office when a black woman kicked his beer loving a$$. The investigation was incomplete and manipulated by the White House.

FBI DID NOT INVESTIGATE OR CONTACT:

Ford

Kavanaugh

3rd accuser Julie Swetnick whose lawyer provided a sworn statement with allegations

Ford's attorneys provided the FBI with a list of individuals she had confided in about the alleged assault, including her husband and several friends. Ramirez's lawyers also provided a list of more than 20 potential witnesses, many of whom were not contacted by the FBI

Many others who knew Kavanaugh at the time of the alleged incidents reached out to the FBI or spoke to the media about his behavior during those years. FBI did not interview all of them.

The woman she said was at the house didn't back her story. She was pressured by mutual friends to lie for Christine.

This was an op to stop Kavanaugh from being on the Supreme Court, just like with Clarence Thomas.

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An “op”? Do you not understand how confirmation hearings work?

Five federal prosecutors found her story credible. In 2012, Ford described her account of the alleged attack to a therapist. Notes taken during this therapy session were provided to and reviewed by the Washington Post. Ford apparently did not name Kavanaugh during the 2012 session, however, her recollection of the event six years ago and shared with her therapist tracks with the allegations leveled against Kavanaugh in the letter which set this entire process in motion.

The prosecutors: “To believe that this is a made-up tale to prevent Kavanaugh's confirmation, Ford would have had to plant the seeds of this story in 2012. That makes no sense."

As for the friend, she later told the Senate that while she didn’t specifically remember the house party or meeting Kavanaugh, she was unable to refute Ford’s account.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

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Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?

I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.

What’s the alternative? Oil? That’s going to run out at some point.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?

I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.

You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.

Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.

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Anonymous wrote:If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.

I don’t believe that Trump is a pedophile, although he may be a rapist.

No, I am not fine with him deporting all brown people, but I have much less heartburn about deporting persons here illegally.

I don’t particularly like Trump but simply thought he was a better option than Harris based on my policy positions. I still feel that way and would vote for him again.

How do you feel about his approach to governing and decision-making?
Would you trust him to run your company?
Would you trust him to be alone with the women in your life?
Do you think he’s a good role model for young adults and children?

Trump is unsophisticated but shrewd enough to understand power and what motivates people.

Trump would not be my first choice to run my company, but I would choose him over Harris in most cases.

Yes I would trust him to be around women and children.

Any person who manages to be elected President twice has some positive traits.

Np here. Wow. Why exactly would you choose him over Harris?

NP. I absolutely chose him over Harris and would do so again. Multiple reasons, the border and immigration being number one. But right up there is his halting of the madness of "gender care" for minors, and his support for keeping men out of women's sports and spaces.

Do men need all of society to support them in their ability to manage themselves around women?

Your argument is predicated on the idea that men are infantile beings who need physical barriers to keep themselves from attacking women. Maybe instead of just enabling your fellow men to be snowflakes and melt all reason away to impulses around women, you could also try telling men they should control themselves.

Interesting theory. I’m a woman, BTW

So you are an enabler. Congrats.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?

I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.

What’s the alternative? Oil? That’s going to run out at some point.

True dat.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?

I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.

You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.

Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.

I suppose you would have preferred the US economy ground to a halt with corresponding job losses and dystopia.

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If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?

My opinion of Trump does not matter because it has no power to seat/unseat a president. Just because Trump acts like a Democrat does not mean I will stop supporting the Republican party. If Trump is removed, it will be president Vance. If Trump stays, more Liberals implode, some by self-immolation, some to live in a mental asylum which is what the Democratic party looks like to me: a loony bin full of weird-haired circus freaks screaming about pronouns.

Win-Win.

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

It is not about brown people—way to go supporting that stupid narrative, it is about waves of lawless invaders crossing our borders which is illegal to do regardless of skin color.

The equivalent of due process is served if a person is in this country without a visa or proper authorization. Not being able to speak English along with no identification means Uncle Sam’s big boot goes right into your butt and out the door you go. Good-bye and good riddance!

From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.

Anything Trump does is 10,000 times better than anything the Democrats would do. In some cases, Trump is the lesser of two evils.

The Democratic party is the party of murder, sexual deviance, and perversion. It is soft on crime, giving light sentences or none at all for those who do evil.

Calling Democrats the “party of perversion and crime” is projection at best and propaganda at worst. Let’s unpack the irony:

- 34-time FELON Donald Trump has been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation by a jury in the E. Jean Carroll case, and ordered to pay over $88 million in damages. That’s not hearsay or fake news, it’s a legal verdict.

- More than 25 women have publicly accused Trump of sexual misconduct, including rape, groping, and walking in on underage pageant contestants.

- Republican leaders defended Roy Moore, a Senate candidate accused of pursuing teenage girls when he was in his 30s.

- Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican Speaker of the House, admitted to sexually abusing teenage boys and paid hush money to cover it up.

- Matt Gaetz, a sitting Republican congressman, is under investigation for sex trafficking of a minor.

If you want to talk about “perversion,” start with the party that keeps elevating men with credible sexual abuse allegations and covering them up, as Republicans are currently doing with the Epstein files.

As for crime? Democratic-led cities have seen drops in violent crime, and Democratic lawmakers have passed bipartisan legislation to fund police and reform sentencing. Meanwhile, Republicans push fear-based narratives while opposing gun safety laws that could actually reduce crime.

And on immigration: ICE under Trump has violated due process repeatedly, detaining migrants without hearings, deporting them to third countries with as little as six hours’ notice, and even arresting people inside courthouses without warrants. That’s not law and order—it’s authoritarianism.

So no, Democrats aren’t the party of crime or perversion. They’re the party trying to fix broken systems while Republicans defend abusers, ignore court rulings, and weaponize cruelty for political gain.

No one thinks a NY jury is capable of applying the law correctly any more than people are persuaded by so-called "credible" allegations of sexual assault. Those words no longer have meaning because Democrats have corrupted our systems.

Karma can be a biatch for you and all the females in your life. How could you be so dismissive and disgusting of all those women who finally came out of the shadows to testify under oath against predator trump.

This type of stuff doesn't happen to the women in my life, and I don't find the gang-piling to make their allegations more credible.

If you want to convince me you can tell credible accusations apart from bad ones, please tell me the best reasons why Christine Ford's allegations likely lacked merit?

The women in your life would never tell you about this. Based upon your answers here, you are not a safe person to talk to about this topic. The women in your life will lie to you if you ask because you are clearly not someone who would listen to them.

Go ahead and be proud of that if you want to.

Love how no one explains why Christine Ford's allegations were likely bogus and instead shriek at the poster for noticing.

And I do not support your view of women that women will lie to men if the men do not agree with them. Maybe you do that, but not all women are like that. In my experience, however, women lie when they want to distract from their own misconduct. If you start pulling at that thread, you end up with Christine Ford-like stories, which is probably why you are attacking me instead of engaging in debate.

You are proving my point over and over again.

I’m not saying the women in your life are always lying to you. I’m saying if you ask directly about the topic of sexual assault, a woman in your life will not answer you that they have experienced that even if you have.

You are saying “women lie when they want to distract from their own misconduct”. Which is just like saying “she was assaulted because her skirt was too short and a man saw her breasts and was unable to control himself because of misconduct”

Bye now- we are just going to continue to disagree and this conversation can only devolve from here.

DP. Keep pushing identity politics. Nothing else seems to be working for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?

I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.

You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.

Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.

I suppose you would have preferred the US economy ground to a halt with corresponding job losses and dystopia.

Yes, we know. If we don't do the things you want us to do, dog and cats living together.

Back to the Inflation Reduction Act being just the opposite of its name.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?

I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.

You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.

Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.

I suppose you would have preferred the US economy ground to a halt with corresponding job losses and dystopia.

Yes, we know. If we don't do the things you want us to do, dog and cats living together.

Back to the Inflation Reduction Act being just the opposite of its name.

Listen, Trump voters gave up their right to have opinions on economic matters. You clearly don’t understand the first thing about anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?

I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.

You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.

Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.

I suppose you would have preferred the US economy ground to a halt with corresponding job losses and dystopia.

Yes, we know. If we don't do the things you want us to do, dog and cats living together.

Back to the Inflation Reduction Act being just the opposite of its name.

Listen, Trump voters gave up their right to have opinions on economic matters. You clearly don’t understand the first thing about anything.

Someone is losing the debate. ^^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

You gave a BS statement. This is what you want to believe about Dems, but it isn't true. What is a one world, no borders, soft on crime? No borders? Just like Trump is not all Rs, Biden was not all Ds. One world? Soft on crime? Where is that legislation?

Economy - dems favored every single time. The economy is not growing. People are not spending. Houses are sitting. College grads can't find jobs. Is that what you signed up for?

I know. You signed up for endless Quantitative Easing, money creation and a systematic devaluing of our currency to keep the music going. I didn't.

People shouldn't be spending. They're far in debt. You didn't get the memo?

The days of massive spending to buy wind turbines, solar panels and batteries from China have come to an end. You want green energy, pay for it yourselves without massive government subsidies.

You really are clueless. Clean energy companies opened 46 manufacturing plants in the US last year. Another 160 were either permitted or starting construction. That was all the IRA. We were the only industry bringing jobs back. So subsidies for coal and oil and gas are fine, but not clean energy? Clean energy is the fastest to deploy. Your bills are going up. The truth is, when Rs complained about Solyndra going bankrupt under Obama, what they didn't realize was that China bought their assets and improved upon them. They bought many US companies on the brink of creating the best technology. We ceded the industry to China. That's why they have the best technology. We were getting it back until Trump. Yay! We get to go back to the 50s and the rest of the world is looking to the future.

Yes, IRA as in the 'Inflation Reduction Act". Think of it. The government decides we need more spending on what we clearly don't need. Then it creates money out of thin air and calls it an inflation reduction measure.

Brilliant.

I suppose you would have preferred the US economy ground to a halt with corresponding job losses and dystopia.

Yes, we know. If we don't do the things you want us to do, dog and cats living together.

Back to the Inflation Reduction Act being just the opposite of its name.

It had a trillion dollar multiplier. It bought hundreds of thousands of jobs back to the US. Maybe the problem was that it employed too many people? Also, it didn't cause a $3T deficit.