Enough is enough with the redshirting!

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In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.


I'm not someone who redshirted either, but holy moly isn't it obvious? If there are still many developmental differences at this age, it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc. and it must be frustrating if they are in the grade they are supposed to be, and other kids are not.


DP but my kids go to Montessori where there are three grades per class. Never any issues with younger kids being negatively impacted by the mere presence of older kids.


That’s a completely different environment and learning style which I’m positive you already know.


Sure, but it doesn’t change the fundamental nature of kids, and the PP I responded to rather dramatically said this:

“it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

Maybe they should back up that claim with specifics. Or admit their outrage is pure competitiveness.


And I repeat, it's a completely different learning environment, so it doesn't apply. At all. 5 year olds in Montessori mixed age classes are not expected to act like their 8 year old classmates. They do different work than them. They aren't compared to them, when their drawings get hung up in a line down the hallway. I could go on, but if you don't get it, you don't get it.


You have yet to provide examples of them being negatively affected “ emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

You are just making stuff up because you’re mad Larla is getting silver stars and not gold.
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That says oldest in class and doesn’t stratify by whether that’s natural or redshirting.

So no.

There is always going to be an older group in any K class and yes, that older group shows an advantage.

It doesn’t follow that those who redshirt have the same benefits or more as those naturally older kids.


So much weird gaslighting. Just say it’s an advantage. That’s the annoying part. The denying it’s an advantage in any way.


It may be an advantage to be the oldest but it is a huge disadvantage to send a not ready very young kid to kindergarten. Shouldn’t be surprising which side parents err on.


That’s fine for a summer kid but a winter? It’s scary for most kids to go to K. No one is totally ready.


I don’t know any winter redshirted kids.


That’s what the discussion is about, 10 year olds in Third in December.


I just don’t think this is happening in large enough numbers to make a big stink about it. Redshirting of winter birthdays (so they turn 7 in K, 10 in 3rd grade, 19 senior year of HS, etc.) is very rare. Even with COVID closures messing everything up. The vast majority of redshirted kids have summer birthdays close to the cutoff and are thus 6 all of K, 18 all of senior year of HS, etc.


I think in certain private schools and areas it’s getting pushed back further and further. That’s the point of the discussion. There needs to be some sort of understanding from parents that their kids might just go and not be the best at everything. This seems like anxiety over kids succeeding more than anything. It’s not rational to want to hold back a kid who is already older for the year even if they do have adhd. They can benefit from services.


That seems to apply equally to the parents who send their kids as early as possible and then freak out they’re not in gifted math. The rules specify a range of dates in which to start. Choose the one that works for you and let others choose what works for them but unless someone is outside the allowed range, it’s still “on time”


It's not "on time" if you have to fill out paperwork with the country checking a box that says "my child needs a maturity waiver to start one year later". You are legally allowed to do it, yes, but it is not "on time". Lol.
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Anonymous wrote:There are two ten year olds in my child’s third grade class. When will a school draw a line with this?


In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.


I'm not someone who redshirted either, but holy moly isn't it obvious? If there are still many developmental differences at this age, it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc. and it must be frustrating if they are in the grade they are supposed to be, and other kids are not.


DP but my kids go to Montessori where there are three grades per class. Never any issues with younger kids being negatively impacted by the mere presence of older kids.


That’s a completely different environment and learning style which I’m positive you already know.


Sure, but it doesn’t change the fundamental nature of kids, and the PP I responded to rather dramatically said this:

“it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

Maybe they should back up that claim with specifics. Or admit their outrage is pure competitiveness.


And I repeat, it's a completely different learning environment, so it doesn't apply. At all. 5 year olds in Montessori mixed age classes are not expected to act like their 8 year old classmates. They do different work than them. They aren't compared to them, when their drawings get hung up in a line down the hallway. I could go on, but if you don't get it, you don't get it.


You have yet to provide examples of them being negatively affected “ emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

You are just making stuff up because you’re mad Larla is getting silver stars and not gold.


there were already articles posted like 7 pages ago.
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Anonymous wrote:There are two ten year olds in my child’s third grade class. When will a school draw a line with this?


In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.

In practical terms, my kids school offers advanced math and ELA to the top 25% of the grade. And that group is like, every single red shirted kid plus maybe 10 others. (Not NP). My kid is fine and is in the advanced group anyways, but you shouldn’t take an advanced spot away from a child if you were made to repeat K or held back from K voluntarily. You’re not an advanced and gifted learner you’re just supposed to be in the next grade up.


But they are doing the same academics as the other kids. They haven’t had an extra year of learning just an extra year of playing in preschool.


And their brains are a full year more mature. There is a reason that (most) kids can’t learn to read at age 3 but (most) kids can learn to read at age 6. Their brains have developed. There is a reason why my August kids cogat score said he was 99th percentile for age but 94th percentile for grade.


JFC. Love how you had to include the specific numbers, mom. How many months old was your snowflake when he rolled over? Walked? Talked? I’ll bet you have always monitored how he stacks up against his peers


That is a weird reply. I'm pointing out that my child would have been chosen for GT if done by age, but it was done by grade, and he missed the cut off because he was young. If I'd held him back a year, he'd have been in GT. That's the point. The redshirted kids can "look" very gifted when in reality, they aren't. They're just being compared to a younger cohort. And the OP's question was "how does it affect you", and I'm answering. They are taking a finite resource from other children by purposely holding them back to compete with younger, smaller, children in school and in sports.


Again, this is a fundamental problem with the GT programs, NOT the age of your snowflake’s classmates.
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That says oldest in class and doesn’t stratify by whether that’s natural or redshirting.

So no.

There is always going to be an older group in any K class and yes, that older group shows an advantage.

It doesn’t follow that those who redshirt have the same benefits or more as those naturally older kids.


So much weird gaslighting. Just say it’s an advantage. That’s the annoying part. The denying it’s an advantage in any way.


It may be an advantage to be the oldest but it is a huge disadvantage to send a not ready very young kid to kindergarten. Shouldn’t be surprising which side parents err on.


That’s fine for a summer kid but a winter? It’s scary for most kids to go to K. No one is totally ready.


I don’t know any winter redshirted kids.


That’s what the discussion is about, 10 year olds in Third in December.


No, a redshirted kid is 9 in third not 10. OP is talking about an odd situation of double held back kids.


No, kids with October-November 2015 birthdates are very much in third grade because they were redshirted or repeated. They were not held back twice. And some school systems have an August 31 cutoff, so there are September 2015 kids as well. None of those kids were held back twice. They should have started kindergarten fall 2020 and first grade in fall 2021. Instead they did kindergarten in fall 2021.


Kids with October-December 2015 Bdays are in 3rd because they missed the cutoff. NY and the NYC area is the only area of the country that still uses a calendar year cutoff. Literally everywhere else in the US, the cutoff is anywhere between 7/31 and 10/1. EVERYWHERE.

Kids with June 2015-September 2015 bdays may be in 3rd now or in 4th. My 8/2015 kid is in 3rd. I didn’t start him in Covid K. No way, sorry. There are a few other redshirted summer birthdays both boys and girls in his class. I’m not aware of any early 2015 kids in PUBLIC 3rd. It just isn’t really a thing. Private may be another story.
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Anonymous wrote:There are two ten year olds in my child’s third grade class. When will a school draw a line with this?


In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.


I'm not someone who redshirted either, but holy moly isn't it obvious? If there are still many developmental differences at this age, it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc. and it must be frustrating if they are in the grade they are supposed to be, and other kids are not.


DP but my kids go to Montessori where there are three grades per class. Never any issues with younger kids being negatively impacted by the mere presence of older kids.


That’s a completely different environment and learning style which I’m positive you already know.


Sure, but it doesn’t change the fundamental nature of kids, and the PP I responded to rather dramatically said this:

“it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

Maybe they should back up that claim with specifics. Or admit their outrage is pure competitiveness.


And I repeat, it's a completely different learning environment, so it doesn't apply. At all. 5 year olds in Montessori mixed age classes are not expected to act like their 8 year old classmates. They do different work than them. They aren't compared to them, when their drawings get hung up in a line down the hallway. I could go on, but if you don't get it, you don't get it.


You have yet to provide examples of them being negatively affected “ emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

You are just making stuff up because you’re mad Larla is getting silver stars and not gold.


there were already articles posted like 7 pages ago.


No articles posted demonstrated any of these alleged negative effects. If they had you’d be able to quickly list them (but you can’t).
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That says oldest in class and doesn’t stratify by whether that’s natural or redshirting.

So no.

There is always going to be an older group in any K class and yes, that older group shows an advantage.

It doesn’t follow that those who redshirt have the same benefits or more as those naturally older kids.


So much weird gaslighting. Just say it’s an advantage. That’s the annoying part. The denying it’s an advantage in any way.


It may be an advantage to be the oldest but it is a huge disadvantage to send a not ready very young kid to kindergarten. Shouldn’t be surprising which side parents err on.


That’s fine for a summer kid but a winter? It’s scary for most kids to go to K. No one is totally ready.


I don’t know any winter redshirted kids.


That’s what the discussion is about, 10 year olds in Third in December.


I just don’t think this is happening in large enough numbers to make a big stink about it. Redshirting of winter birthdays (so they turn 7 in K, 10 in 3rd grade, 19 senior year of HS, etc.) is very rare. Even with COVID closures messing everything up. The vast majority of redshirted kids have summer birthdays close to the cutoff and are thus 6 all of K, 18 all of senior year of HS, etc.


I think in certain private schools and areas it’s getting pushed back further and further. That’s the point of the discussion. There needs to be some sort of understanding from parents that their kids might just go and not be the best at everything. This seems like anxiety over kids succeeding more than anything. It’s not rational to want to hold back a kid who is already older for the year even if they do have adhd. They can benefit from services.


That seems to apply equally to the parents who send their kids as early as possible and then freak out they’re not in gifted math. The rules specify a range of dates in which to start. Choose the one that works for you and let others choose what works for them but unless someone is outside the allowed range, it’s still “on time”


It's not "on time" if you have to fill out paperwork with the country checking a box that says "my child needs a maturity waiver to start one year later". You are legally allowed to do it, yes, but it is not "on time". Lol.


You don’t need that to start a child at six where I live either.
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That says oldest in class and doesn’t stratify by whether that’s natural or redshirting.

So no.

There is always going to be an older group in any K class and yes, that older group shows an advantage.

It doesn’t follow that those who redshirt have the same benefits or more as those naturally older kids.


So much weird gaslighting. Just say it’s an advantage. That’s the annoying part. The denying it’s an advantage in any way.


It may be an advantage to be the oldest but it is a huge disadvantage to send a not ready very young kid to kindergarten. Shouldn’t be surprising which side parents err on.


That’s fine for a summer kid but a winter? It’s scary for most kids to go to K. No one is totally ready.


I don’t know any winter redshirted kids.


That’s what the discussion is about, 10 year olds in Third in December.


No, a redshirted kid is 9 in third not 10. OP is talking about an odd situation of double held back kids.


No, kids with October-November 2015 birthdates are very much in third grade because they were redshirted or repeated. They were not held back twice. And some school systems have an August 31 cutoff, so there are September 2015 kids as well. None of those kids were held back twice. They should have started kindergarten fall 2020 and first grade in fall 2021. Instead they did kindergarten in fall 2021.


October or Nov 2015 is the normal age for the grade
2014 is what his classmates are and it's a redshirt age
They were held back once, but were the oldest in the grade so it is a huge age gap with younger kids in the grade.
They did Kinder in 2020. It was covid year.
They are 10 years old in 3rd.
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Anonymous wrote:There are two ten year olds in my child’s third grade class. When will a school draw a line with this?


In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.

In practical terms, my kids school offers advanced math and ELA to the top 25% of the grade. And that group is like, every single red shirted kid plus maybe 10 others. (Not NP). My kid is fine and is in the advanced group anyways, but you shouldn’t take an advanced spot away from a child if you were made to repeat K or held back from K voluntarily. You’re not an advanced and gifted learner you’re just supposed to be in the next grade up.


But they are doing the same academics as the other kids. They haven’t had an extra year of learning just an extra year of playing in preschool.


And their brains are a full year more mature. There is a reason that (most) kids can’t learn to read at age 3 but (most) kids can learn to read at age 6. Their brains have developed. There is a reason why my August kids cogat score said he was 99th percentile for age but 94th percentile for grade.


JFC. Love how you had to include the specific numbers, mom. How many months old was your snowflake when he rolled over? Walked? Talked? I’ll bet you have always monitored how he stacks up against his peers


That is a weird reply. I'm pointing out that my child would have been chosen for GT if done by age, but it was done by grade, and he missed the cut off because he was young. If I'd held him back a year, he'd have been in GT. That's the point. The redshirted kids can "look" very gifted when in reality, they aren't. They're just being compared to a younger cohort. And the OP's question was "how does it affect you", and I'm answering. They are taking a finite resource from other children by purposely holding them back to compete with younger, smaller, children in school and in sports.


Why is it a finite resource? If you meet the criteria, you should be in. If it’s finite take it up with the school.
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Anonymous wrote:There are two ten year olds in my child’s third grade class. When will a school draw a line with this?


In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.


I'm not someone who redshirted either, but holy moly isn't it obvious? If there are still many developmental differences at this age, it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc. and it must be frustrating if they are in the grade they are supposed to be, and other kids are not.


DP but my kids go to Montessori where there are three grades per class. Never any issues with younger kids being negatively impacted by the mere presence of older kids.


That’s a completely different environment and learning style which I’m positive you already know.


Sure, but it doesn’t change the fundamental nature of kids, and the PP I responded to rather dramatically said this:

“it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

Maybe they should back up that claim with specifics. Or admit their outrage is pure competitiveness.


And I repeat, it's a completely different learning environment, so it doesn't apply. At all. 5 year olds in Montessori mixed age classes are not expected to act like their 8 year old classmates. They do different work than them. They aren't compared to them, when their drawings get hung up in a line down the hallway. I could go on, but if you don't get it, you don't get it.


You have yet to provide examples of them being negatively affected “ emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

You are just making stuff up because you’re mad Larla is getting silver stars and not gold.


there were already articles posted like 7 pages ago.


You too dumb to cite or?
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That says oldest in class and doesn’t stratify by whether that’s natural or redshirting.

So no.

There is always going to be an older group in any K class and yes, that older group shows an advantage.

It doesn’t follow that those who redshirt have the same benefits or more as those naturally older kids.


So much weird gaslighting. Just say it’s an advantage. That’s the annoying part. The denying it’s an advantage in any way.


It may be an advantage to be the oldest but it is a huge disadvantage to send a not ready very young kid to kindergarten. Shouldn’t be surprising which side parents err on.


That’s fine for a summer kid but a winter? It’s scary for most kids to go to K. No one is totally ready.


I don’t know any winter redshirted kids.


That’s what the discussion is about, 10 year olds in Third in December.


No, a redshirted kid is 9 in third not 10. OP is talking about an odd situation of double held back kids.


No, kids with October-November 2015 birthdates are very much in third grade because they were redshirted or repeated. They were not held back twice. And some school systems have an August 31 cutoff, so there are September 2015 kids as well. None of those kids were held back twice. They should have started kindergarten fall 2020 and first grade in fall 2021. Instead they did kindergarten in fall 2021.


October or Nov 2015 is the normal age for the grade
2014 is what his classmates are and it's a redshirt age
They were held back once, but were the oldest in the grade so it is a huge age gap with younger kids in the grade.
They did Kinder in 2020. It was covid year.
They are 10 years old in 3rd.


Was your school in person 2020-21?
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Anonymous wrote:There are two ten year olds in my child’s third grade class. When will a school draw a line with this?


In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.

In practical terms, my kids school offers advanced math and ELA to the top 25% of the grade. And that group is like, every single red shirted kid plus maybe 10 others. (Not NP). My kid is fine and is in the advanced group anyways, but you shouldn’t take an advanced spot away from a child if you were made to repeat K or held back from K voluntarily. You’re not an advanced and gifted learner you’re just supposed to be in the next grade up.


But they are doing the same academics as the other kids. They haven’t had an extra year of learning just an extra year of playing in preschool.


And their brains are a full year more mature. There is a reason that (most) kids can’t learn to read at age 3 but (most) kids can learn to read at age 6. Their brains have developed. There is a reason why my August kids cogat score said he was 99th percentile for age but 94th percentile for grade.


JFC. Love how you had to include the specific numbers, mom. How many months old was your snowflake when he rolled over? Walked? Talked? I’ll bet you have always monitored how he stacks up against his peers


That is a weird reply. I'm pointing out that my child would have been chosen for GT if done by age, but it was done by grade, and he missed the cut off because he was young. If I'd held him back a year, he'd have been in GT. That's the point. The redshirted kids can "look" very gifted when in reality, they aren't. They're just being compared to a younger cohort. And the OP's question was "how does it affect you", and I'm answering. They are taking a finite resource from other children by purposely holding them back to compete with younger, smaller, children in school and in sports.


If GT was that important to you, then, you should have redshirted.

In the other hand you don’t know that the next years’ classmates won’t have had 26 kids who score better and only 25 slots. Then who will you blame?
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Anonymous wrote:There are two ten year olds in my child’s third grade class. When will a school draw a line with this?


In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.


I'm not someone who redshirted either, but holy moly isn't it obvious? If there are still many developmental differences at this age, it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc. and it must be frustrating if they are in the grade they are supposed to be, and other kids are not.


DP but my kids go to Montessori where there are three grades per class. Never any issues with younger kids being negatively impacted by the mere presence of older kids.


That’s a completely different environment and learning style which I’m positive you already know.


Sure, but it doesn’t change the fundamental nature of kids, and the PP I responded to rather dramatically said this:

“it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

Maybe they should back up that claim with specifics. Or admit their outrage is pure competitiveness.


And I repeat, it's a completely different learning environment, so it doesn't apply. At all. 5 year olds in Montessori mixed age classes are not expected to act like their 8 year old classmates. They do different work than them. They aren't compared to them, when their drawings get hung up in a line down the hallway. I could go on, but if you don't get it, you don't get it.


You have yet to provide examples of them being negatively affected “ emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

You are just making stuff up because you’re mad Larla is getting silver stars and not gold.


there were already articles posted like 7 pages ago.


You too dumb to cite or?


you too lazy to scroll back 5 pages or? they've been posted.
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That says oldest in class and doesn’t stratify by whether that’s natural or redshirting.

So no.

There is always going to be an older group in any K class and yes, that older group shows an advantage.

It doesn’t follow that those who redshirt have the same benefits or more as those naturally older kids.


So much weird gaslighting. Just say it’s an advantage. That’s the annoying part. The denying it’s an advantage in any way.


It may be an advantage to be the oldest but it is a huge disadvantage to send a not ready very young kid to kindergarten. Shouldn’t be surprising which side parents err on.


That’s fine for a summer kid but a winter? It’s scary for most kids to go to K. No one is totally ready.


I don’t know any winter redshirted kids.


That’s what the discussion is about, 10 year olds in Third in December.


its not even winter yet. So the kids are actually 9?


2 kids are ten in my child’s 3rd grade class already


Are you OP?


Yes and this is what the thread is about. A lot of people came in and derailed it. My point was it's gotten way way out of hand. There are appropriate birthdays to do this and then there are ... not..


I don’t think many know 10yr old 3rd graders.


Those kids weren't red shirted they were held back! Its not the same!
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Anonymous wrote:There are two ten year olds in my child’s third grade class. When will a school draw a line with this?


In practical terms, how does this impact you?

I'm not someone who redshirted BTW.


I'm not someone who redshirted either, but holy moly isn't it obvious? If there are still many developmental differences at this age, it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc. and it must be frustrating if they are in the grade they are supposed to be, and other kids are not.


DP but my kids go to Montessori where there are three grades per class. Never any issues with younger kids being negatively impacted by the mere presence of older kids.


That’s a completely different environment and learning style which I’m positive you already know.


Sure, but it doesn’t change the fundamental nature of kids, and the PP I responded to rather dramatically said this:

“it can badly affect kids that are on the younger side emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

Maybe they should back up that claim with specifics. Or admit their outrage is pure competitiveness.


And I repeat, it's a completely different learning environment, so it doesn't apply. At all. 5 year olds in Montessori mixed age classes are not expected to act like their 8 year old classmates. They do different work than them. They aren't compared to them, when their drawings get hung up in a line down the hallway. I could go on, but if you don't get it, you don't get it.


You have yet to provide examples of them being negatively affected “ emotionally, socially, physically, mentally, academically, etc.”

You are just making stuff up because you’re mad Larla is getting silver stars and not gold.


there were already articles posted like 7 pages ago.


You too dumb to cite or?


you too lazy to scroll back 5 pages or? they've been posted.


It’s obvious you didn’t even click on (let alone read) the links posted. You just assume someone else did the work for you and you can fall back on that with zero understanding.
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